Do you believe that God accepts homosexuality or not?

[just-me]

nuns

The bible tells you to love one another. I do not agree giving love is a sin because same sex.
Think yourself lucky your capable of giving and receiving love. A lot of people cannot do that.
If it is a romantic love if the other person agrees do not sacrifice yourself your a long time dead. live love and be happy

The bible does not state one should live without love because they are different. In fact those that are different should be loved more and let God make the decision if right or wrong.

hoot owl

Loving a person that is a homosexual is absolutely the Lord's will. Loving them in such a profound way as to help them to separate themselves from what separates them from the presents of God is the love that really makes the difference. That's what it's all about. If we condone their sin, we don't love them enough. If we love according to our own estimation, then our love is vain, and doesn't produce the effect that gives real peace, mercy, forgiveness, humility, kindness, longsuffering, gentleness etc.

As far as God's decision is concerned, it's already been defined in His Word. We can't make the excuse that we don't know His will concerning this.
Romans 1:19-20 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Acts 17:30 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Hello
homosexuality in the eyes of men is a big sin and is more
unacceptable but GOD sees all sin as unacceptable.

 

[jahsoul]

Hi Hoot,

You wrote a LOT..lol..but I will try to address the major points.

*I kinda felt that you wasn't a follower of Christ with the last response but I didn't want to just assume without first hearing it from your mouth. That makes a lot of your post more understandable.

*Actually, God sees everything we do as filthy rags because we are covered in sin. Because of sin nature, no amount of good equals the debt of sin. Also, you would be hard pressed to find a true believer who lacks compassion. The Bible says that our faith shows through our actions.

*Christians who condemn without getting the mote out of there own eye is a huge issue that we face today. And Christians shouldn't tell a sinner how to live there lives but we do tell them what is sin and not. The is also more prevalent when those who claim to be a believer are also celebrating a sinful lifestyle. You can't do things God way and your way. Something has to give. Now once you proclaim to to be a believer, the Bible sets the guideline and your are now under God's jurisdiction. He tells you how to live your life.

*"I am trying to tell you not to." When you are stating a personal belief and begin with that phrase, that is always the start of a contradiction. I can't have feeling about something but other's can? That all flows into the oxymoron of "tolerance."

*Contrary to modern belief, there is no "their own way" to following God. The Bible tells us as plain as day that we die to self.

*Most wars started by "religion?" SO the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Civil War, Spanish/American War, World War I & 2, Korean and Vietnam Conflict, Persian Gulf, and 9/11 was caused by religion??? Most wars are caused by geopolitical issues. And I am one of those who stand out against war.

*What testimony have I jumped on anybody with. A question was asked and I answered according to scripture. THE END.

*If my kids tell me to get lost, then that is the sign that no longer need me as a provider and if they leave home, then it is them fending for themselves. I'm not saying that my kids jump at everything thing that I say but because they love and respect me, they obey me. I can show my kids a scar and tell them don't do this because you will end up with that. If they want to learn by experience, so be it, but my instruction is not there to harm them in any way, shape, or form and I believe at least my oldest understand that..lol. I discipline my kids but I don't berate them because, yeah, the Bible tells us not to anger our children unto wrath. I discipline in love and never anger. Also, if you read the prodigal son, when he realized the state that he got himself into, he went home.

See the thing that you fail to realize is I have nothing again a person. If a homosexual is harmed because of their lifestyle, then that is wrong and I would stick up for the individual, but not a lifestyle. But this goes both ways. You have homosexuals who look to incite (see New Mexico photography incident) to play the victim. You can't have your cake and eat it too. But with that being said, do you stand up and fight for all injustice or do you just pick and choose. See as Christians, we believe in justice. Now to be truthful, if you look at the politics of SSM, you would understand this is a fight for benefits and not rights. Tax breaks and insurance are not rights. Also, if you feel so strong about who you say you are (not you personally), then why do you feel the need for you lifestyle to be accepted? I'm just saying.

 

[Godslyric]

Just my 2 cents on the subject...Let he who lives without sin cast the first stone...Sin is a problem everywhere, it operates in everyone, and no man walks this planet without sin...Other Then Jesus Christ...For men to gage what sin is more dispicable then another is very bent to me...Matthew 7-1, is a fine verse for me to keep in mind as I go through my day pointing my finger toward someone, or some group, and expressing my distain for their sin when Im sinning as I do that...And I find myself doing it more then I care to admit too. As a Christian following Christ, I try to keep in mind the 2 commands he left for us to implement in our walk. We all know what they are...

 

[jahsoul]

Just my 2 cents on the subject...Let he who lives without sin cast the first stone...Sin is a problem everywhere, it operates in everyone, and no man walks this planet without sin...Other Then Jesus Christ...For men to gage what sin is more dispicable then another is very bent to me...Matthew 7-1, is a fine verse for me to keep in mind as I go through my day pointing my finger toward someone, or some group, and expressing my distain for their sin when Im sinning as I do that...And I find myself doing it more then I care to admit too. As a Christian following Christ, I try to keep in mind the 2 commands he left for us to implement in our walk. We all know what they are...

I don't think it is a question of gauging what sin is more despicable but it is a question of calling sin "sin," which while following those 2 commandments, Jesus also did.

 

[Godslyric]

I don't think it is a question of gauging what sin is more despicable but it is a question of calling sin "sin," which while following those 2 commandments, Jesus also did.

You personally may not gage sin in that way, but their is a whole lot of that happening all around us in our Christian communities today...Sin is sin, and we are all having to deal with it...The love of Christ needs to be freely passed on thru us, as it was, to us, from Him. This love cant be passed along to any group of people that are feeling unloved and judged in such a harsh manner out there in the world, which they are ... How can we as Christians attempt to shut the door to Christ in the faces of homosexuals, and still feel we are in Christ? Please dont think I am directing this toward you, Im just attempting to articulate my thoughts on the matter. Im not looking to stir up any discourse out here. These are just my own personal thoughts, and views on the subject matter. I believe the Love of Christ is for all who seek it. And everyone needs to tend to their own sin in this life...and share the Love of Christ without any judgments. As He dose with us. Much Love, Jeff

 

[AllAlongTheOnesWatchTower]

Its clear in the old testament that homosexuality is a sin. Jesus did not come to abolish the law but fulfill it. So, how can we say it is ok to live this lifestyle?

 

[gocardinals25]

I don't think god would make a mistake when he says you should not lay with another man you should not lay with another man, or woman with woman I am not free of sin and neither is anyone else but when you live in sin and are comfortable with it I believe that is when you are in real trouble, this is why we should read the bible for answers that is the word of god and not man

 

[gocardinals25]

I recently left a woman I was with because she was married and I loved her with all my heart but I knew that it was not gods plan but my own, he said living his way would be difficult while living our way would be easy

 

[Godslyric]

Its clear in the old testament that homosexuality is a sin. Jesus did not come to abolish the law but fulfill it. So, how can we say it is ok to live this lifestyle?

Its not OK, but understand, its not OK for any of us to be doing the many things we do day to day. I realize some men and woman sin less then others, but we all sin...but Im still welcomed in my Church, where if a gay man, or woman came to a service, they would be met with a subtle sense of judgment...it would be very polite, but it would be there all the same...Its hard for any man to feel love in an environment that dosent except them...Christ's Love is the cure for all mans ills in my view...Again, just my take on it...Im just some guy that owns a computer out here in cyberspace...Thanks for the opportunity to express my thoughts... Peace.

 

[jahsoul]

You personally may not gage sin in that way, but their is a whole lot of that happening all around us in our Christian communities today...Sin is sin, and we are all having to deal with it...The love of Christ needs to be freely passed on thru us, as it was, to us, from Him. This love cant be passed along to any group of people that are feeling unloved and judged in such a harsh manner out there in the world, which they are ... How can we as Christians attempt to shut the door to Christ in the faces of homosexuals, and still feel we are in Christ? Please dont think I am directing this toward you, Im just attempting to articulate my thoughts on the matter. Im not looking to stir up any discourse out here. These are just my own personal thoughts, and views on the subject matter. I believe the Love of Christ is for all who seek it. And everyone needs to tend to their own sin in this life...and share the Love of Christ without any judgments. As He dose with us. Much Love, Jeff

It is no problem. I knew that you were speaking in more general terms and I totally understand what you are saying. It's hard because people have their own view of love. I remember Todd Friel's response to Rob Bell's "Bullhorn Guy" from like almost 10 years ago and I think he hit it right on the head regarding our approach. Most are either all condemn or all "love" and that's is why the witness of many is not effective. The love of Christ is what didn't condemn the lady caught in adultery BUT told her to go and sin no more. The love of Christ is there for all who seek it but self is required to "die" so that Christ might live (in us). I hate that some people rate sin but I also know that this is also all we hear because of the fight for same sex marriage and benefits.

 

[gocardinals25]

John 7:24"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

 

[Godslyric]

It is no problem. I knew that you were speaking in more general terms and I totally understand what you are saying. It's hard because people have their own view of love. I remember Todd Friel's response to Rob Bell's "Bullhorn Guy" from like almost 10 years ago and I think he hit it right on the head regarding our approach. Most are either all condemn or all "love" and that's is why the witness of many is not effective. The love of Christ is what didn't condemn the lady caught in adultery BUT told her to go and sin no more. The love of Christ is there for all who seek it but self is required to "die" so that Christ might live (in us). I hate that some people rate sin but I also know that this is also all we hear because of the fight for same sex marriage and benefits.

Great point and I totally agree with you... but a person has to have a place to go that they will feel safe in the mist of change...If they feel judged they will never even have the chance to know Christ, because theirs no door open to them in their minds...

 

[RedTent]

Great point and I totally agree with you... but a person has to have a place to go that they will feel safe in the mist of change...If they feel judged they will never even have the chance to know Christ, because theirs no door open to them in their minds...

To know of the love God has for all He created has nothing to do with feeling your sin will not be judged. They can know the door is open, but they can not take their sin through that door. Christ is a God of love and Christ is also a God who judges. We are not to judge, except to know what is sin so we know to stay away from it, but Christ both loves and judges.

 

[masha]

I am sure that, Romans 1:26-27-28 will help you to get the anwers for all your quastions of homosexuality. try to read the Bible always cos it has the anwers for all our quastion we have.bye.masha.

 

[Godslyric]

To know of the love God has for all He created has nothing to do with feeling your sin will not be judged. They can know the door is open, but they can not take their sin through that door. Christ is a God of love and Christ is also a God who judges. We are not to judge, except to know what is sin so we know to stay away from it, but Christ both loves and judges.

We take our sin through the door...Our sin is of a better variety then theirs? Our sin is not judged? Im glad God will judge me, and not my fellow brothere and sisters...Welcome them in, and maybe you will see just how Christ dose restorer, not that He needs us to restorre anything...This I see as an opportunity to grow in Christ, by inviting others into the fold that our worldly minds tell us to keep out...Thats pretty much all I can add to the discussion...Thank you again for the opportunity to share... God Bless

 

[masha]

doing homosexuality is sinning read the Bible and you'll get the answer for your quastion stirting to 1 Romans 1:26-27-28. BUT REMEMBER Jesus tells his peoples that a health person does not need docter. so pray God n he'll help you to stop it.

 

[resurrection33]

This is an ongoing debate that has risen into the christian community since the recent law changes. Which has resulted in a lot of divisions in the church.

My question is do you think that God views homosexuality as a sin or not and why? Are some people born homosexual thus making it completely natural and not a choice or is it an inherited sin in which we are born with like the rest of sins and essentially one has to be 'born again'?

I am really interested in people's viewpoints

I apologise if this question has been asked many times before as I am new to this forum.

Thanks for replying in advance

No, the Lord does not accept sin, and homosexuality is a sin:

[6] But from the beginning of creation, `God made them male and female.'
[7] `For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife,
[8] and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh. Mark 10:6-8 RSV

We have to repent of our sin before we can enter heaven.

 

[masha]

Pop Francesco he's not here to judge but to love everyone. judging will be the work of God.

 

[resurrection33]

Pop Francesco he's not here to judge but to love everyone. judging will be the work of God.

Part of love is kicking people in the shin when they need it for their own good. We only hurt ourselves when we sin. To lead a person out of their sin is a noble act.