Do you still sin?

[G2RBeliever]

Proverbs3:23 Then shalt thou walk in thy way safely,and thy foot shall not stumble.

Proverbs4:19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.

Jeremiah 13:16 Give glory to the Lord your God,before He cause darkness,and before your feet stumble upon the dark mountains,and,while ye look for light,He turn it into the shadow of death,and make it grows darkness.



John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them,saying,I am the light of the world: He that FOLLOWETH ME SHALL NOT WALK IN DARKNESS,BUT SHALL HAVE THE LIGHT OF LIFE.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Rejoice! Our sins are forgiven! We are saved. We can now walk in the Light because His blood cleansed us.

This is all true. But what the apostle John was telling Christians is that there will be times when they are NOT walking in the Light.

Therefore it behooves all believers to examine themselves daily, and also ask God to examine them. Following that if they find that there are sins (of omission as well as commission) they must be confessed and repented of.

Indeed the apostle Paul tells all Christians to examine themselves carefully before partaking of the Lord's Supper (1 Corinthians 11). So yes, all our past sins were indeed forgiven when we first repented, but that does not mean that Christians should not be addressing their present sins (if any). In fact, there is "a sin unto death" for believers who fail to repent.

There are those who hold to Hyper-Grace teachings and claim that Christians do not need to address their current sins. That is false doctrine.

 

[Brandnewday]

Taking the answer to the perspective of the absolute born again believer in all that God's breath assures as a fact, it would be impossible to be a sinner if someone is a born-again regenerated Christian who is Christ like with the holy spirit of God inside them.
Unless it is to be argued through man's reasoning behind what is written in God's word and is made subject to the individual person's interpretation, God sins and redemption isn't what he said it was.

I redeem coupons when I shop. The value of the coupon applies to the purchase of the product described on the coupon. If I redeem the coupon and the monies it promises to take away from the retail price are not deducted, is that a redeemable coupon? Or is it a clipped piece of paper printed in what is false advertising about discounts and savings?

 

[John146]

I’m not understanding where you’re getting that our souls are no longer attached....

The one who is in Christ is no longer in the flesh. See the verses I’ve posted. The Lord has circumcised us from the flesh. In the OT, the saints were still attached to the flesh. Therefore, they were forbidden to eat certain unclean things, touch unclean things because the actions on the body affected their souls. Same for the unbeliever today. But now the believer’s soul is not affected eternally from the sins in the flesh.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of thesins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and theuncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

 

[Blik]

Paul never denied that he was fleshly, a human being who had sin within him, and still Paul accepted that through Christ he took on being without sin: wiped clean of all his sin. He didn't let his humanness stop him from accepting the complete forgiveness offered him, or let it stop him from doing his best to be true to his sinless being.

Paul tells us in Romans 7:15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[a] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

In 2 Peter we are told that we are near sighted and blind if, after accepting Christ's forgiveness we don't walk in the way of the Lord.

God does not look at our humanness after we accept the power of Christ, God looks at our hearts. We don't have control of our humanness, but we are given control of our thoughts and heart.

 

[CharliRenee]

We are all sinners by OMISSION or in some cases by choice. There is no such thing as a human who has no sins, we are the sons of the flesh. This is why out Corrupt bodies {1 Cor. 15} can not enter Heaven. This is why Mary {John 20} AFTER the Resurrection, was told by Jesus, TOUCH ME NOT, for I have not yet ascended to the Father {to offer the Sacrifice, which he touching would have DEFILED via Sin flesh}. When Jesus rules for 1000 years men will still be sinners, but by OMISSION only, in other words, I should have stopped by and went the store for Ms X..........instead I went to see a movie etc. But whilst Satan is locked up, men will not DESIRE EVIL. But we still will have our Sin Nature...........Well, not me, I will be in the Rapture before the 1000 year reign, and thus I will have a Glorious body by then.

Off topic but your comment spurred a question. Why then was Thomas allowed to touch. I have often wondered why she was unable to but Thomas yes. Surely not a gender discrepancy... I do not know.

 

[tourist]

@tourist, thank you for your kind words of family!

I actually am implying that all believers including me are no longer sinners because of Christ.

He did not die for us, give us His Blood to completely take away our sin, give us His Righteousness, and seal, baptize and fill us with the Holy Spirit for us to live on the Earth and keep calling ourselves SINNERS.

No way! Absolutely not! SINNER is NOT what He wants me calling myself.

All true born again believers are the Righteousness of God in Christ Jesus! Amen.


He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1 John 3:8-9 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=1 John 3:8-9&version=KJV

I absolutely agree with you on this, and yes, we are family here.

 

[notuptome]

Off topic but your comment spurred a question. Why then was Thomas allowed to touch. I have often wondered why she was unable to but Thomas yes. Surely not a gender discrepancy... I do not know.

According to the biblical account Jesus had not yet ascended to the Father at the tomb but by the time He saw Thomas Jesus had completed that task and fulfilled the necessary atonement.

Nothing gender based.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[John146]

Off topic but your comment spurred a question. Why then was Thomas allowed to touch. I have often wondered why she was unable to but Thomas yes. Surely not a gender discrepancy... I do not know.

The Lord ascended to make the blood atonement on the altar in heaven. That same day, He descended back to earth and showed Himself to the disciples. At that point, they could touch Him.

 

[Blade]

No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Everyone who has been born of God does not sin, because His seed remains in him; he is not able to sin, because he has been born of God.

I always wonder from some it comes down to how you see the real you. Well the new man which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. And then when all I saw was the sin I did.. what He asked me was "what is righteousness" then asked "how do you get righteousness". Thats how the Father sees me. Then I wondered.. if I am still a sinner having all this sin in me.. then I can never come boldly to His throne nor can I sit in heavenly places.

I thought.. this new man.. how can this new man sin? It can never sin if it could this would be the fall of Adam part 2. Lol I never searched to see if anyone looked at as I am then found the below.

"but rather the meaning is, he that is born of God, as he is born of God, or that which is born of God in him, the new man, or new creature, cannot sin; for that is pure and holy; there is nothing sinful in it, nor can anything that is sinful come out of it, or be done by it; it is the workmanship of the Holy Spirit of God; it is a good work, and well pleasing: in the sight of God, who is of purer eyes than to behold sin with delight; and an incorruptible seed, which neither corrupts nor is corrupted; and though it is as yet an imperfect work, it is not impure: the reason of the impeccability of the regenerate man, as such, is "

So I can never say I don't have sin. This flesh LOVES to sin. There is no sin that will keep me now from the Father. But.. I can still HURT HIM by sinning. What sin does He have to die for again? As said in Heb.. there is no more sacrifice for that sin. They Jews would sin after being saved and try to offer up a sacrifice so Paul was telling them.. there is no more sacrifice for that sin. This would put Christ to open shame. So I still have to repent.. I can not now being BORN OF GOD am I free to sin God for bid.

 

[CharliRenee]

The Lord ascended to make the blood atonement on the altar in heaven. That same day, He descended back to earth and showed Himself to the disciples. At that point, they could touch Him.

Ohhhhh wow, ok tyou. Where are you reading this, that he descended after mary's encounter and descended back?

 

[CharliRenee]

According to the biblical account Jesus had not yet ascended to the Father at the tomb but by the time He saw Thomas Jesus had completed that task and fulfilled the necessary atonement.

Nothing gender based.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Ok, thank you, much appreciated.

 

[tourist]

The Lord ascended to make the blood atonement on the altar in heaven. That same day, He descended back to earth and showed Himself to the disciples. At that point, they could touch Him.

Where in the bible did you come up with this?

 

[CharliRenee]

The Lord ascended to make the blood atonement on the altar in heaven. That same day, He descended back to earth and showed Himself to the disciples. At that point, they could touch Him.

* ascended then descended that is.

 

[notuptome]

Where in the bible did you come up with this?

You do not know? Hebrews 9 is a good place to look for the testimony of Christs blood.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[John146]

Ohhhhh wow, ok tyou. Where are you reading this, that he descended after mary's encounter and descended back?

Well, we know He told Mary that He had not yet ascended to His Father shortly after His resurrection. At that point, He told her not to touch Him. Later that day, after He had ascended to the Father, He returned and showed Himself to the disciples which at that point could touch Him for the atonement was complete.

Hebrews 9
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

 

[John146]

You do not know? Hebrews 9 is a good place to look for the testimony of Christs blood.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

We’re on the same page! Amen!

 

[CharliRenee]

You do not know? Hebrews 9 is a good place to look for the testimony of Christs blood.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Hmmmm hebrews 9 talks of His coming back to save us, gathering His ppl, but not going up and then back down and then up again. I apologize for I am not getting where you get your understanding. I will continue to read.

Thank you Roger. God Bless you.

 

[CharliRenee]

Well, we know He told Mary that He had not yet ascended to His Father shortly after His resurrection. At that point, He told her not to touch Him. Later that day, after He had ascended to the Father, He returned and showed Himself to the disciples which at that point could touch Him for the atonement was complete.

Hebrews 9
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Wait now, wouldn't that have been before He saw Mary, before He rose again. I will keep reading thanks for your attempt to help me understand.

 

[John146]

Wait now, wouldn't that have been before He saw Mary, before He rose again. I will keep reading thanks for your attempt to help me understand.

Shortly after His resurrection...

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.