Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

[Blain]

And if you don't try to produce sorrow over sin, period, you will not be able to produce godly sorrow and thus they will not repent unto salvation.

I don't focus on sin I wasn't commanded to focus on others sins, I have no interest in pointing out peoples sins I help them through them instead .

Jesus sat and ate with sinners before he ever told them to repent and turn from ways he always first showed compassion love understanding the sinners were drawn to this aspect of him and became saved some he didn't even have to ask he just showed understanding and compassion to them where everyone else was always pointing out their sins always excluding them Jesus did the opposite.

Your to focused on the sin

 

[HeIsHere]

The burden of proof is upon the accuser.

This in not a courtroom for one, and secondly, the burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim.
The studies were not proof.

 

[Snacker]

Her discernment of what exactly?

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[ResidentAlien]

HeIsHere, Snacker is spreading malicious gossip about me. "Jeanette" called me a hater and Snacker told him he was right and that he should put me on ignore. He won't come out with it like a man but keeps dropping hints all over the place so people will go back and see what he's talking about. I'll make it simple: Hey everyone, Snacker thinks you should put me on ignore. LOL

 

[HeIsHere]

And @Jeanette has acknowledged this and repented.

Then why the need to bring supposed proof of her beliefs and the defensiveness about it.

I would think of I repented of adultery as harmful to myself and those around me and as a sin before God, I would not bring research to `prove` why people who commit adultery have no choice in the matter, correct?

 

[HeIsHere]

HeIsHere, Snacker is spreading malicious gossip about me. "Jeanette" called me a hater and Snacker told him he was right and that he should put me on ignore. He won't come out with it like a man but keeps dropping hints all over the place so people will go back and see what he's talking about. I'll make it simple: Hey everyone, Snacker thinks you should put me on ignore. LOL

I am going go back and read but I do not think anyone was hateful, she was trying to defend her position and seems to me people were reminding her that her position seeks to undermine God's design.

 

[Blade]

Heres a tiny thought... what if I treated others as I want to be treated no matter what they do say? What if I treated others as if I was really talking to Christ? For me I won't talk about anyone unless they are here.. again not how I want to be treated.. haha an I Know no one here.. I have nothing what so ever to gain. Its just this is in public and.. one of those "why would they want our Jesus look how we treat family"

To go back to the start.. I believe Christ as He said died for the sin of the world and as God said in Samuel man only sees the flesh the out side but God sees the heart.

 

[hornetguy]

And what do you think Jesus would have told the woman at the well, if she told him, I know what I'm doing is a sin, but I'm not going to change just because you ask me to, because I have to be true to myself, and not live a lie.....
WWJD? Just say, "well, ok then....." Odd, but I don't see him going that route.

Jesus knew that she would likely sin again, but she had a contrite heart, and was going to try her best.... that's all ANY of us can do.

And, again, this person was NOT contrite enough to even TRY to act right... it was all a show.

 

[Snacker]

HeIsHere, Snacker is spreading malicious gossip about me. "Jeanette" called me a hater and Snacker told him he was right and that he should put me on ignore. He won't come out with it like a man but keeps dropping hints all over the place so people will go back and see what he's talking about. I'll make it simple: Hey everyone, Snacker thinks you should put me on ignore. LOL

“Malicious gossip”
Okay, Karen. 😆

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Oh well nothing!
This is an outrage.
God forgive us. We have done it yet again. Flushed an honest and repentant seeker down the toilet.
Please forgive us @Jeanette.
Please forgive us Father.

Indeed!

 

[Gideon300]

Do you think transgenders go to heaven? I hear mixed opinions on the topic. Are people with those feelings supposed to stay the way they are and remain celibate for their lives?

There are some unfortunates that are born with genetic defects that give them both genders. They are a tiny minority. Other than that, there are two genders, male and female. No one gets to choose which. So-called transgender is the ultimate in rebellion.
Isaiah 29:16
You have turned things upside down, as if the potter were regarded as clay. Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, “He did not make me”? Can the pottery say of the potter, “He has no understanding”?

It is not impossible for such people to be saved. I've read some testimonies of those who received Jesus as saviour and Lord. Jesus died for sinners, no matter what their sin. But they must accept that they are sinners and repent.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

He actually said he did not believe transgenderism is a sin. And NOT just the feelings, actually living as the opposite sex.

Mental Illness, I believe is one of billions of ways we see how the Sin of Adam wreaks havoc upon the Earth. Trans People, are mentally ill. Who knows if their thoughts are even lucid and compliant, and if so, for how long? When I see Mental Illness, I don't look and say, aha, there's a Sinner! I see someone who might not really have any idea what they're saying nor am I expecting them to be of a clear mind and sound mind.

I think Homosexuals are more devious than Trans, because, Trans, think they're the opposite Gender but they're not chasing the Same Sex. Homosexuals would have sex with a hole in the wall. They are Reprobate. That is a condition that God Cursed them with. But Trans People, are Mentally Ill. Big Difference between the two.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Speaking of Trans, and Mental Illness.
If you were to ask Bruce Jenner, in 1976, a WOMAN, kicked the WORLD's butt at the Olympics in the MEN's DIVISION of the Decathlon.
Like I said, and I am paraphrasing the Doctor at John Hopkins University, straight up OFF his Rocker, man.......!..

 

[tourist]

Oh well nothing!
This is an outrage.
God forgive us. We have done it yet again. Flushed an honest and repentant seeker down the toilet.
Please forgive us @Jeanette.
Please forgive us Father.

For me, when a member quits the site or is banned, it is like a death in the family. Kind of sad, really.

 

[tourist]

I have to agree with you there.

People who don't know the Lord ought to be welcome on Christian sites, in order that we might win them to having favour with God.

Absolutely concur with your estimation.

 

[HeIsHere]

And @Jeanette has acknowledged this and repented.

Repentance if not feeling sorrow about one's sin.
You can feel sorry all you want but that is not what Jesus requires of us.

 

[justahumanbeing]

Why does it matter if they do or don't to you? Are you one? Or do you know someone who is personally?

 

[SomeDisciple]

There are some unfortunates that are born with genetic defects that give them both genders. They are a tiny minority.

Interesting history about this; the Jews counted them as men if they had both- they could even marry women, and only women. They could not marry men.

 

[HeIsHere]

I think that's horrible. Period

But there MUST be a difference between love and acceptance of sin.

And that's not what went on here.
This person CLAIMED to be a born again Christian, and although he thought it sinful to engage in homosexual acts, he did NOT think it was a sin to live as the opposite sex.

Several of us tried to in what I would say was cordial ways to explain why that was wrong.

He then accused us of being haters.

I mean just read the thread starting at his first post.

Thank you.
There is no love without truth.
Exactly why we see a weak dysfunctional, compromised, ineffective church nowadays in the Western world.
I "feel sorry for my sin nightly" is not the Roman Road to Salvation but it is a good thing to state to garner sympathy.

 

[HeIsHere]

1Jo 3:9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1Jo 5:18, We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

1Jo 3:6, Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1Jo 2:17, And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth (sinneth not) for ever.

Are you feeling triggered?

I can assure John is not preaching sinless perfectionism.