FreeGrace2 said:
I'd like to introduce you to 1 Cor 1:21 - For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.
Your argument is specious. No one is arguing that man saves himself through faith. That is ludicrous.
The Bible is clear: God saves those who believe.
What the Bible doesn't say is that God saves those He has elected.
Just stop all this childish gibberish. I have given you the Bible. Maybe it's you who doesn't seem to understand.
If you don't think the verses I quote support my beliefs, then address the verse and explain why the verse doesn't. Just spewing your own brand of error does no good.
That's been MY point. Aren't you reading my posts?
v.4 says exactly that. God chose us (believers-v.19) to be holy and blameless.
I'd like to introduce you to 1 Cor 1:21 - For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.
Your argument is specious. No one is arguing that man saves himself through faith. That is ludicrous.
The Bible is clear: God saves those who believe.
What the Bible doesn't say is that God saves those He has elected.
I've shown you SEVERAL times but you don't seem to understand. You just seem to want to spew your error over and over for no purpose.
If you don't think the verses I quote support my beliefs, then address the verse and explain why the verse doesn't. Just spewing your own brand of error does no good.
Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Everyone who is saved has been elected to service.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Everyone who is saved has been elected to service.
v.4 says exactly that. God chose us (believers-v.19) to be holy and blameless.