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eternally-gratefull

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Now theres a song...

[video=youtube;8ufy9UXOeMw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ufy9UXOeMw[/video]
yep thats the one (I now have had in my head all morning)..lol
 
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I would change things.


H — Hear
R — Repent
B — Believe (have faith, not mere belief)
C — Confess/call out (rom 10)
B — Baptized (by the Holy Spirit)

to me we can not have faith until we first repent.
You can change your mind before you even hear and believe something?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I agree that Repentance is more than an emotional reaction to pain and suffering cause by sin. It must include a change in our minds to see the lies that sin has enslaved us too and how we have chosen to rebell against God.
I think to many worry about emotions or emotional reaction. And if we do not feel sorry, then you have not repented.

In the military, you do not have time to feel sorry for your mistake, You get up. Adit you did wrong, and move on. Thats what we should do. Admit we made an error. We sinned, and move on,, Dwelling on sin is what keeps people back.
 
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HisHolly

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how can one repent if they don't believe 1st?
 
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HisHolly

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this is ignoring and acting like nothing happened
I think to many worry about emotions or emotional reaction. And if we do not feel sorry, then you have not repented.

In the military, you do not have time to feel sorry for your mistake, You get up. Adit you did wrong, and move on. Thats what we should do. Admit we made an error. We sinned, and move on,, Dwelling on sin is what keeps people back.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You can change your mind before you even hear and believe something?
You cant have faith unless you change your thinking.

We are not saved by mere belief, but by faith..

Maybe that needs to be added.

Hear (the word)
Believe (contemplate what you heard, Chew on it (john 6))
Repent (change your thinking)
Faith (trust in what you heard)
Call out on jesus to be saved (rom 10)


Maybe this sounds better. I can see this..
 
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I think to many worry about emotions or emotional reaction. And if we do not feel sorry, then you have not repented.

In the military, you do not have time to feel sorry for your mistake, You get up. Adit you did wrong, and move on. Thats what we should do. Admit we made an error. We sinned, and move on,, Dwelling on sin is what keeps people back.
What if mainly we are our emotional reaction to things.
Emotions summarise where we are at the moment and how we feel about it.

Sin is not some minor issue, it is a massive wrong focus, a fundamental flaw in relationship,
love, care and attention. If sin shows itself, we need to find out why we are so blind,
and ask ourselves what has lead up to it. We need most of all the Lords perspective, His
healing and purity, forgiveness, and love working. So dismiss sin, is often the very reason
we we commit it, oh it is nothing, minor, gone and forgotten. Purity is about perfection,
no spot, no wrinkle, no stain. So nothing in minor. The lake of fire is full of people who
think sin is minor.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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this is ignoring and acting like nothing happened
No it is not. It is not giving the enemy (satan) time to attack because you are to focused on your mistake and not focused on him
 
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No it is not. It is not giving the enemy (satan) time to attack because you are to focused on your mistake and not focused on him
An attack by the enemy based on real bad behaviour is a fair point.
In the Lords eyes this is a correct criticism. Job was praised for these reasons

Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?
Job 1:8

The Lord was proud of Job because of his behaviour not his failure.
We do not bring honour to the King through our sin, but rightly we need to
humble ourselves and repent. Without this we are no different from sinners
who live in rebellion.
 
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been along time since I heard that song, did not know that was in there..lol


(Ducks, while people judge EG of listening to satanic music!!)
Haha! I don't know what song you're talking about. I was thinking of that man's funeral after 9\11 when a small plane seemed very close and a commentator said: stay calm, take off your shoes, and run! I think it was a presidents funeral or viewing for the public. Reagan maybe?
 

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I agree...religious traditions can be the strongest most deceiving strongholds in our minds because we have been taught them from the beginning of our walk with the Lord by well-meaning people.

When we hear something that is different from our church teachings - we can get offended.

We can think that we are "defending the faith" but in reality we could be just "defending our church traditions and teachings" which may or may not be accurate.

You know, Grace and Willie, you're not helpful at all. You're not being loving and kind - you're condemning and judgmental. You two have it all correct, you two know it all, you two have this little
discussion going on between the two of you and it's all to judge whatever is said without any help.

If you don't want to add to this discussion and just want to sit back and judge everyone here because we don't happen to believe in your understanding of the various topics that are being discussed, of what value are you.

In fact, unless prodded, you don't even try to explain how we're wrong and how you're right. You're not helpful - you who claim to know the truth. You just throw out judgements.

Alright already, enough is enough. Go into your own little thread and enjoy whatever it is you believe among yourselves and leave us alone so we can discuss the word of God.
 
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You know, Grace and Willie, you're not helpful at all. You're not being loving and kind - you're condemning and judgmental. You two have it all correct, you two know it all, you two have this little
discussion going on between the two of you and it's all to judge whatever is said without any help.

If you don't want to add to this discussion and just want to sit back and judge everyone here because we don't happen to believe in your understanding of the various topics that are being discussed, of what value are you.

In fact, unless prodded, you don't even try to explain how we're wrong and how you're right. You're not helpful - you who claim to know the truth. You just throw out judgements.

Alright already, enough is enough. Go into your own little thread and enjoy whatever it is you believe among yourselves and leave us alone so we can discuss the word of God.
Keep your peace in Him sister. You've been walking well in love and patience. And we should expect to be mocked, no?:)
 
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You know, Grace and Willie, you're not helpful at all. You're not being loving and kind - you're condemning and judgmental. You two have it all correct, you two know it all, you two have this little
discussion going on between the two of you and it's all to judge whatever is said without any help.

If you don't want to add to this discussion and just want to sit back and judge everyone here because we don't happen to believe in your understanding of the various topics that are being discussed, of what value are you.

In fact, unless prodded, you don't even try to explain how we're wrong and how you're right. You're not helpful - you who claim to know the truth. You just throw out judgements.

Alright already, enough is enough. Go into your own little thread and enjoy whatever it is you believe among yourselves and leave us alone so we can discuss the word of God.
I sent Ariel 10 full pages (because it was too long for the forum) and she didn't want to read it. And, please do not expect us to add to what we feel we have learned is incorrect teaching. (We're not Democrats, and don't just automatically do something like that to keep from hurting someone's sensitivities.)
 
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You've done well too Ariel. No man can take our peace and our walk in the Spirit. It's by our own hand that we permit it.
 
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You know, Grace and Willie, you're not helpful at all. You're not being loving and kind - you're condemning and judgmental. You two have it all correct, you two know it all, you two have this little
discussion going on between the two of you and it's all to judge whatever is said without any help.

If you don't want to add to this discussion and just want to sit back and judge everyone here because we don't happen to believe in your understanding of the various topics that are being discussed, of what value are you.

In fact, unless prodded, you don't even try to explain how we're wrong and how you're right. You're not helpful - you who claim to know the truth. You just throw out judgements.

Alright already, enough is enough. Go into your own little thread and enjoy whatever it is you believe among yourselves and leave us alone so we can discuss the word of God.

You are taking what I have said completely wrong. What I have said is not condemning or judgmental at all. You are projecting this unto yourself and if you choose to do that - that is your choice but I don't think it is wise.

I won't speak for Willie but I am simply giving out my thoughts on the subject as has been asked by Ariel and I was not talking to you or referring to you or anyone else for that matter - I was just making a general statement.

Don't be offended because it was not meant towards you or anyone else. It's usually not good "to project" things unto ourselves when we are not even being addressed.

I am not here to "tell you want to believe". I speak what I believe about a subject and leave it in the hands of others and their Lord. What they do with it - is their business.
 
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If you did not see it in this thread earlier then it would not help for me to point out specific posts in which it has happened.
 
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But mocking and contemptuous sneers are not important (our Lord suffered much more for us and nothing said or done has caused even a drop of our blood to spill). They are only important because He uses them to our good and for our growth and to train us.. :)
 
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And we come to thank God for people He uses to bless us, even if they meant it for harm, He used it for good. So we thank Him for people then sit there in wonderment like...I didn't see that one coming...! :)