Dualism, the doctrine of a disassociated identity

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dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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samuel23 said:
Hi Lauren: You seem to enjoy railing against certain folks. I have been reading all these posts. If ISIT has been doing something wrong then carefully with respect point out what he is doing that is wrong. The man is right or wrong according to scripture, so point out the scriptures that he has violated please. Why are you attacking him with words like, he has a martyr's complex, you cry like a baby, you say people are picking on you, quite the backbone, has to lie and twist, your ginormous ego. The bible tells us that Satan uses such railing accusations, not people of God. If this man is teaching something false then you should be able to describe the teaching that is false without attacking the man. Please, I would like to read EXACTLY what it is this man has done against God. Present your case.
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Kind of like this......

InSpiritInTruth
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I see the serpents seed has been busy, good morning ye brood of vipers!;and also a good morning to all my brethren (wherever they are?):)

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PennEd

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InSpiritInTruth said:
I see the serpents seed has been busy, good morning ye brood of vipers!;and also a good morning to all my brethren (wherever they are?):)
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Cmon! This guy is eating this attention like candy. Almost from day 1 I knew there was something seriously amiss about him.

I had been on here for almost 2 yrs and never put anyone on ignore. He earned the honor of being my 1st. Once in awhile I open up a post of his and KNOW I've made the right call.

I understand my fellow brothers and sisters trying to understand and converse with him, but he quotes Christ AS IF HE IS CHRIST!

I promise you, your time here will be more fruitful, by simply ignoring.
 
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PennEd said:
Cmon! This guy is eating this attention like candy. Almost from day 1 I knew there was something seriously amiss about him.

I had been on here for almost 2 yrs and never put anyone on ignore. He earned the honor of being my 1st. Once in awhile I open up a post of his and KNOW I've made the right call.

I understand my fellow brothers and sisters trying to understand and converse with him, but he quotes Christ AS IF HE IS CHRIST!

I promise you, your time here will be more fruitful, by simply ignoring.
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report it

it is against the TOS and the mods need to step in
 
PeterJens

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ISIT may be extreme or he may be reflecting scripture itself.

If he is encouraging righteousness, study of scripture, then he is a gift from God.

My question would be can you love him though he maybe overly enthusiastic?
The problem is if you cannot love him, then you have a problem deeper than himself
but with abiding in Christ and love.

I have noticed the spirit of some is not love but personality or a deep seated belief another
is inspired or motivated by the enemy, while in reality this is all emotional, and the whole
issue is about how we as individuals can handle different personalities.

As John says if you cannot cope with your brother that you know on earth who you have
had interaction with, how will you cope with God who you have not seen face to face yet.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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PeterJens said:
ISIT may be extreme or he may be reflecting scripture itself.

If he is encouraging righteousness, study of scripture, then he is a gift from God.

My question would be can you love him though he maybe overly enthusiastic?
The problem is if you cannot love him, then you have a problem deeper than himself
but with abiding in Christ and love.

I have noticed the spirit of some is not love but personality or a deep seated belief another
is inspired or motivated by the enemy, while in reality this is all emotional, and the whole
issue is about how we as individuals can handle different personalities.

As John says if you cannot cope with your brother that you know on earth who you have
had interaction with, how will you cope with God who you have not seen face to face yet.
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You have to actually be saved to be a brother in Christ....false teachers are not a brother in Christ.........
 
PeterJens

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InSpiritInTruth said:
I see the serpents seed has been busy, good morning ye brood of vipers!;and also a good morning to all my brethren (wherever they are?):)
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ISIT - people may be pointed, irritated and impolite, but brood of vipers is very
strong. If love does not conquer our hearts each day at the foot of the cross,
it is we who have lost focus and sin has come into our walk.

I know it is hard when things we care deeply about are trampled on and we are
spoken to as if it is nothing. But this is what they have always done with the
people of the Lord, and we need to respond in blessing, love and kindness.

Now this is the kind of maturity Paul had, and it is a hard road to walk. But then
the mess that causes such problems is much worse than the antipathy generated.
Our true spirituality is shown in how we overcome and respond, for we are holders
of Christs love in our hearts that overcomes the world and its sin.

If one wants to aspire to be a herald, a messenger in public of His word we need to
be able to cope.
 
KJV1611

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samuel23 said:
Hi Lauren: You seem to enjoy railing against certain folks. I have been reading all these posts. If ISIT has been doing something wrong then carefully with respect point out what he is doing that is wrong. The man is right or wrong according to scripture, so point out the scriptures that he has violated please. Why are you attacking him with words like, he has a martyr's complex, you cry like a baby, you say people are picking on you, quite the backbone, has to lie and twist, your ginormous ego. The bible tells us that Satan uses such railing accusations, not people of God. If this man is teaching something false then you should be able to describe the teaching that is false without attacking the man. Please, I would like to read EXACTLY what it is this man has done against God. Present your case.
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You can never get someone caught up in false doctrine to see that their doctrine is false. Have you ever debated a Jehovah's witness? You can show them scripture after scripture and they will twist every one of them or NOT ANSWER questions concerning the verse and their false doctrine.
 
dcontroversal

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PeterJens said:
Ok. Why do you feel ISIT is a false teacher?
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Galatians 1,3 and what he teaches.....a sinless, working for salvation that is not found in the bible.....end of story....faith mixed with works = a false gospel with no power to save and is double cursed.......

Where have you been...........the bible is clear.......mix ANYTHING with faith for salvation = a message with NO POWER to save and if ONE believes and promotes a FALSE message with NO power to save I can rightfully CONCLUDE they are NOT SAVED BASED upon the FALSE MESSAGE that they spew.........

If you believe with your MIND that GOD has raised him from the dead thou SHALT BE SAVED....and WHAT GOD DOES it is EVERLASTING nothing ADDED or TAKEN AWAY Ecclesiastes 3:14

Jesus + anything = more than JESUS...........
 
KJV1611

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PeterJens said:
Ok. Why do you feel ISIT is a false teacher?
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ISIT SAID
People try to use Romans 7 as an excuse for ongoing sin, even saying Paul was still struggling with sin. But one needs to keep in mind what Paul said to his audience in Romans 6:19 [SUP]19 [/SUP]I speak after the manner of men becauseof the infirmity of your flesh:”
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He uses "speak after the manner of men" to totally PERVERT Romans 7. Paul PRESENT TENSE speaking about Paul saying PAUL as a Christian STRUGGLED with sin. JUST LIKE ALL CHRISTIANS DO.

How many examples do you need?
 
InSpiritInTruth

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samuel23 said:
Hi Lauren: You seem to enjoy railing against certain folks. I have been reading all these posts. If ISIT has been doing something wrong then carefully with respect point out what he is doing that is wrong. The man is right or wrong according to scripture, so point out the scriptures that he has violated please. Why are you attacking him with words like, he has a martyr's complex, you cry like a baby, you say people are picking on you, quite the backbone, has to lie and twist, your ginormous ego. The bible tells us that Satan uses such railing accusations, not people of God. If this man is teaching something false then you should be able to describe the teaching that is false without attacking the man. Please, I would like to read EXACTLY what it is this man has done against God. Present your case.
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Amen, someone who sees what is actually going on with this pack of wolves who constantly attack and falsely accuse, you shall know them by their fruits, or lack thereof. Notice most often they do not even address the OP or the many scriptures I quote to prove my points, they just say they are false and then they make personal insults. I can pull up a lot of my old threads and show how a lot of this same group has been doing this for some time now, even Lauren who has changed her name.

But the mods allow this garbage to go on, as this same group has been trying to get me banned for some time now. I have no problem calling them reprobates because that is exactly what they are, it is clear by their hateful words and actions, even by the way they reject the words of God which I preach. The Lord rebuke them!
 
InSpiritInTruth

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PeterJens said:
ISIT - people may be pointed, irritated and impolite, but brood of vipers is very
strong.
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It may be strong language, but it is the Truth. If it were not the truth I would not say it, but it is, and they are. Both John and Jesus knew who the serpents seed are and they did not mince words, and neither do I. They do the lusts of their father the Devil, that is plain to see.

Matthew 23:33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?


 
InSpiritInTruth

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KJV1611 said:
He uses "speak after the manner of men" to totally PERVERT Romans 7. Paul PRESENT TENSE speaking about Paul saying PAUL as a Christian STRUGGLED with sin. JUST LIKE ALL CHRISTIANS DO.

How many examples do you need?
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Because you are of the flesh and of the world you still abide in darkness, as you cannot hear or see what the Spirit is saying. The manner of men is the same manner of the natural brute beast, which is unable to hear and understand the spiritual things of God, and that is what you are. Paul fought with beasts at Ephesus, I fight with natural brute beasts online. :)
 
KJV1611

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InSpiritInTruth said:
It may be strong language, but it is the Truth. If it were not the truth I would not say it, but it is, and they are. Both John and Jesus knew who the serpents seed are and they did not mince words, and neither do I. They do the lusts of their father the Devil, that is plain to see.

Matthew 23:33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
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Weren't the serpent seed the ones trying to keep everybody in the bondage of the law?
 
PeterJens

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KJV1611 said:
He uses "speak after the manner of men" to totally PERVERT Romans 7. Paul PRESENT TENSE speaking about Paul saying PAUL as a Christian STRUGGLED with sin. JUST LIKE ALL CHRISTIANS DO.

How many examples do you need?
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KJV - ISIT standing for not continuing in sin is a christian theological position.
Read Heb & 1 John. This is not false teaching.

Now for instance I have against you that you deny the Holocaust which is a massive
moral issue. It makes me wonder what is morality in your book.

If I had a choice between a Holocaust denier and a man who stood for walking in righteousness
I would choose every time a person walking in righteousness.

The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous
The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning.
1 John 3:7-8

If one is defending continuing in sin, wilful sin, you are not being biblical.
It would not surprise me that a lot of what we are calling believers are religious folk
who are convicted Jesus is real, but do not see it reflected in their lives.

This is where real humbling and repentance comes in, not trying to justify ones sin
and tearing down someone holding for righteousness. That is rebellion against Christ.

Take the plank out of your own eye, and when God has purified your soul you will be
able to help your brother with their speck.
 
dcontroversal

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KJV1611 said:
He uses "speak after the manner of men" to totally PERVERT Romans 7. Paul PRESENT TENSE speaking about Paul saying PAUL as a Christian STRUGGLED with sin. JUST LIKE ALL CHRISTIANS DO.

How many examples do you need?
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Always one more it seems............
 
dcontroversal

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InSpiritInTruth said:
Amen, someone who sees what is actually going on with this pack of wolves who constantly attack and falsely accuse, you shall know them by their fruits, or lack thereof. Notice most often they do not even address the OP or the many scriptures I quote to prove my points, they just say they are false and then they make personal insults. I can pull up a lot of my old threads and show how a lot of this same group has been doing this for some time now, even Lauren who has changed her name.

But the mods allow this garbage to go on, as this same group has been trying to get me banned for some time now. I have no problem calling them reprobates because that is exactly what they are, it is clear by their hateful words and actions, even by the way they reject the words of God which I preach. The Lord rebuke them!
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You don't preach the words of God, but rather your twisted flavor of the words of God......Pharisee-ism and sinless perfectionism mixed with religious works because Jesus is not good enough......many see the subtle way you pervert the gospel.......your time will come......make no mistake about it..........!
 
PeterJens

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InSpiritInTruth said:
It may be strong language, but it is the Truth. If it were not the truth I would not say it, but it is, and they are. Both John and Jesus knew who the serpents seed are and they did not mince words, and neither do I. They do the lusts of their father the Devil, that is plain to see.

Matthew 23:33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
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Brother, I wonder how many even define sin properly. It is obvious some as hyper
legalists define so much as sin which is not. They end up justifying their position while
believing they are being spiritual and have all the right language.
 
KJV1611

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InSpiritInTruth said:
Because you are of the flesh and of the world you still abide in darkness, as you cannot hear or see what the Spirit is saying. The manner of men is the same manner of the natural brute beast, which is unable to hear and understand the spiritual things of God, and that is what you are. Paul fought with beasts at Ephesus, I fight with natural brute beasts online. :)
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Is everything Paul talks about from the manner of men perspective? When does Paul stop speaking after the manner of men?
 
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PeterJens said:
Brother, I wonder how many even define sin properly. It is obvious some as hyper
legalists define so much as sin which is not. They end up justifying their position while
believing they are being spiritual and have all the right language.
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I know some who definitely do not use the Biblical definition of sin. there is one in particular who, peter, you should know well. you see him in the mirror.
 
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