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OIC1965

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John 6 has nothing to do with salvation after the cross . The Gospel hasn't happened in John 6 . John 6 is still in the OT
It doesn't matter. Answer the question. Unless you want to cut that part our of the Bible.
 

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Thats not a position. Two of them are portions of verses and the first one is a vauge reference to what happened in the Garden of Eden.
And they tell you all you need to know about the scope of human ability apart from grace, hoss. So what word is used interchangably with draw in John 6?
 

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And they tell you all you need to know about the scope of human ability apart from grace, hoss. So what word is used interchangably with draw in John 6?
I'm not sure of the question ?
 

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Nope. The reasons why the Spirit reproves the world are in the text. What does it mean that the Spirit reproves the world of righteousness? Come on, I know you can do it.
What is righteousness, friend? And what does "the Spirit will convict the world of Righteousness" mean?!

Think about it.

Jesus is the LORD our Righteousness. To convict the world of righteousness is to convict the world of the righteousness that comes from faith in Christ alone. Or better, it is to bring to light the righteousness that is by faith in Christ alone.

The Spirit brings to light sin, conviction of sin.

The Spirit brings to light the righteousness of Christ. Look to Him and be saved.

The Spirit brings to light that the prince of the world is judged. When was the prince of the world judged? At the cross. The Spirit brings to light THE CROSS and the judgement and defeat of the enemy and the redemption price that was paid for our sin.
 

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What is righteousness, friend? And what does "the Spirit will convict the world of Righteousness" mean?!

Think about it.
No lets stick to the verse please. "Of righteousness, BECAUSE I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;"
Any offers ?
 

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What is righteousness, friend? And what does "the Spirit will convict the world of Righteousness" mean?!

Think about it.

Jesus is the LORD our Righteousness. To convict the world of righteousness is to convict the world of the righteousness that comes from faith in Christ alone. Or better, it is to bring to light the righteousness that is by faith in Christ alone.

The Spirit brings to light sin, conviction of sin.

The Spirit brings to light the righteousness of Christ. Look to Him and be saved.

The Spirit brings to light that the prince of the world is judged. When was the prince of the world judged? At the cross. The Spirit brings to light THE CROSS and the judgement and defeat of the enemy and the redemption price that was paid for our sin.
9Of sin, BECAUSE!!! they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, BECAUSE!!! I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, BECAUSE!!!! the prince of this world is judged.
12¶I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
 

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9Of sin, BECAUSE!!! they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, BECAUSE!!! I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, BECAUSE!!!! the prince of this world is judged.
12¶I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
I include verse 12 for irony lol 😆
 

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No lets stick to the verse please. "Of righteousness, BECAUSE I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;"
Any offers ?
Yes, the Spirit brings righteousness to light because Jesus went to the Father, and we see Him no more. The Spirit brings Christ's righteousness to light to the world, because Christ is the only Righteous One, and the only MEANS by which man can be made rightoueous.

The Spirit brings to light sin. Showing us our guilt.

The Spirit brings to light righteousness. Showing that Christ is Righteous, is the Holy One, and the Lord our Righteousness.

The Spirit brings to light judgement. Because satan was defeated at the cross, and we are free through Christ's work on the cross.

Convicts of sin, points to Christ, points to the cross.
 

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Yes, the Spirit brings righteousness to light because Jesus went to the Father, and we see Him no more. The Spirit brings Christ's righteousness to light to the world, because Christ is the only Righteous One, and the only MEANS by which man can be made rightoueous.

The Spirit brings to light sin. Showing us our guilt.

The Spirit brings to light righteousness. Showing that Christ is Righteous, is the Holy One, and the Lord our Righteousness.

The Spirit brings to light judgement. Because satan was defeated at the cross, and we are free through Christ's work on the cross.

Convicts of sin, points to Christ, points to the cross.
The Spirit convicts of sin. All have sinned.

The Spirit convicts of righteousness. There is none righteous, save Jesus.

The Spirit convicts of judgement. Satan has been judged and defeated.

How's that preach?
 

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The Spirit convicts of sin. All have sinned.

The Spirit convicts of righteousness. There is none righteous, save Jesus.

The Spirit convicts of judgement. Satan has been judged and defeated.

How's that preach?
I agree with the last part . The first two your outside what the verse actually says . Kinda like what happens with Eph 1.4
 

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I agree with the last part . The first two your outside what the verse actually says . Kinda like what happens with Eph 1.4
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Easy for you to say, seeing you have no stated position on what thisverses means, and don't even know what Ephesians 1;4 actually says. Anyone can go and read Ephesians 4 and see it clearly says God chose us in Him before the foundation of the world. My seven year old grandson can read that verse. .
 

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I agree with the last part . The first two your outside what the verse actually says . Kinda like what happens with Eph 1.4
What is the righteousness that the world needs to be convicted of? I don't think you know. We know that the sin that the world needs to be convicted of is contextually unbelief. So what is the remedy for the sin of unbelief?

Perhaps putting your trust in someone else's righteousness instead of your own. Because the verse does say that the righteousness is referring to Jesus, and the world is seeing Jesus no more. So what does the Spirit convict the world of? The righteousness of Christ Himself. Which interestingly enough, becomes our righteousness in justification.

The Spirit points out the sin of our unbelief, points to the Righteousness of Christ, and then to the victory at the cross over satan.
 

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Do you hold to total inability from birth? if so how did you arrive at that conclusion?
Apart from Grace? Of course I believe in total inability apart from Grace. Unto us it is GRANTED not only to believe but also to suffer for His sake. Philippians 1:29. The greek word translated "granted" is charizomai, which is related to the word "charis" or grace. It has been graced to us, freely given to us, given graciously to us TO BELIEVE.