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trofimus

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If I answer this question will you finally stop commenting?
No, I will check that Bible, find differences against the KJV and will ask you how it is possible when you said there cannot be two different and inspired Bibles :)
 

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No, I will check that Bible, find differences against the KJV and will ask you how it is possible when you said there cannot be two different and inspired Bibles :)
I never said that man, I said the King James is the perfect word of God in ENGLISH. The old testament was not complete until the book of John was written.
 

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They did not have a complete bible in any language before Jesus died. Old testament wise.
 

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Unless you do the research, no. It really doesn't. BTW, there were no rabbits in the Middle-east when Moses brought the law. And yet there are very unusual rabbits in the KJV. lol
no cockatrices either. & not even a single confirmed basilisk as far as anyone knows. no unicorns ((though there were plenty of aurochs, no rhinoceri)).

and i know, yeah, that's inconsequential to our faith - if our faith is in God, not in a translated text.

i can readily come to the conclusion that 400 years ago, people weren't sure what animal a word that fell out usage 3,000 years prior meant to describe, so they inserted something mythical. but what does a person do with this if their faith is centered on the absolute purity of an English-language rendition of something that was never in English to begin with?

does that person believe in cockatrices? or basilisks?
maybe there's a millennia-long global conspiracy to keep their existence hidden?
isn't such a person forced into a position like that?

((if they can stop deflecting, and actually face such questions for a moment?))
 

posthuman

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They did not have a complete bible in any language before Jesus died. Old testament wise.

so what did Jesus pick up in the synagogue and read? fragments??

are you saying the law and the prophets were incomplete until 1611?
 

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I never said that man, I said the King James is the perfect word of God in ENGLISH. The old testament was not complete until the book of John was written.
the Revelation of Christ is an "old testament" book?

imma need you to explain that one with some detail.
 

posthuman

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The old testament was not complete until the book of John was written.

wait -- maybe i got it:

your "old testament" is Genesis - Revelation, 60-some books, and your "new testament" is a giant stack of watchtower tracts?

;)
 
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I never said that man, I said the King James is the perfect word of God in ENGLISH. The old testament was not complete until the book of John was written.
It isn't perfect, there are errors in the text.
 

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so what did Jesus pick up in the synagogue and read? fragments??

are you saying the law and the prophets were incomplete until 1611?
What was his question? Can't remember exactly I'm so tired. He asked if the King James Bible is based off an older version of the bible right? Or was he asking solely for the old testament? I'm not literally saying that John is an old testament book, rather that Jesus fulfilled the prophecies of the old covenant. Sorry if worded it weird I'm so tired.
 

trofimus

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I never said that man, I said the King James is the perfect word of God in ENGLISH. The old testament was not complete until the book of John was written.
So you do not believe that the word of God is perfect in any generation?

What perfect Bible had the generation in English in 1400 AD?

What perfect Bible had the Roman empire in 500 AD? Vulgate?

What perfect Bible had the Greek church in 500 AD (Eastern Roman Empire)? LXX + Byzantine majority text?

Give me specific examples of perfect Bibles. If you cant I cannot compare anything.
 
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trofimus

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They did not have a complete bible in any language before Jesus died. Old testament wise.
In that case its very strange that you use verses from the OT from times when Bible was so incomplete.
 

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Hold on I need to check your question again lol I'm about to pass out.
 

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I did not watch the videos for that answer, I just looked up what was the true word of God before King James, something like that.
 

trofimus

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I did not watch the videos for that answer, I just looked up what was the true word of God before King James, something like that.
Ok, so church did not have any word of God before the KJV?

Tanakh is Jewish. And it is only the Old Testament.

Church used Latin and Greek Bibles. So Christians were without the word of God?
 
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Imagine spending your time trying to come up with some new defense of a version of the Bible, namely the KJV. Something pithy, a quip, something that sounds intellectual, another alleged "gotcha all now" line, something fresh and new, another lecture to defend the errors in the text, a new spin to defend the indefensible.

Then standing before the KJVO cultists to preach about a version with some translational erros, not about Christ.

I'd imagine if a person went to exposit the Gospel and Christ this same crowd wouldn't be as interested, nor would the speaker be as interested to "preach."
 

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Ok, so church did not have any word of God before the KJV?

Tanakh is Jewish. And it is only the Old Testament.

Church used Latin and Greek Bibles. So Christians were without the word of God?
Didn't you ask for a true, preserved version of the bible in Hebrew? I was answering your question.