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dcontroversal

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That's right. Right at the beginning of Genesis He says: "And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,

With the word for seasons, (moed), also having the meaning of "appointed time".

"And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars;

But people are scared to confront these things. I do everyday, so I know that it's scary. I've got 40 tabs of bar graphs and date to date calculator results stacked up on my browser. I keep an eye out on the forums for threads like this. Because what you've noticed from Genesis should have sent all the theologians searching for anything to do with the mention of the sun and the moon and the stars. No matter if it matched their eschatological book or not.

I believe that the Revelation 12 sign is significant. It adds a specific detail to the tetrads by marking out the last third of the prophetic time period that they had been signaling. Time will tell. We don't have long to wait. What I am seeing happens after the sign completes, after September. I'd rather not even mention September because I think we're in the zone where anything could happen at anytime. But after Jupiter leaves the body of Virgo it has a conjunction with Venus a couple of months latter. The two brightest objects pair up in our visible sky which will underscore Jupiter's presence. Will the Son of Man be revealed? From the time of that conjunction until the sun is "darkened" will mark out a third of a span of 1260 days.

There's some other things that involves doctrine. I can count 1290 days to the "darkened" sun. I think that we are much further through Revelation than most scholars have figured out. Maybe not everything is like the theologians told us it would be. But if this is true, it might mean that the really bad part of the tribulation, the part that Jesus was talking about when He said: "for then there will be great tribulation", might only be 371 days long. Just exactly like it was in the days of Noah. After that conjunction, I can count 371 days until the sun is "darkened" and the moon will not give her light.

That's what I think.
Another interesting concept is that this will fall on the heels of the feast of trumpets as well......very interesting for sure....
 

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That's right. Right at the beginning of Genesis He says: "And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,

With the word for seasons, (moed), also having the meaning of "appointed time".

"And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars;

But people are scared to confront these things. I do everyday, so I know that it's scary. I've got 40 tabs of bar graphs and date to date calculator results stacked up on my browser. I keep an eye out on the forums for threads like this. Because what you've noticed from Genesis should have sent all the theologians searching for anything to do with the mention of the sun and the moon and the stars. No matter if it matched their eschatological book or not.

I believe that the Revelation 12 sign is significant. It adds a specific detail to the tetrads by marking out the last third of the prophetic time period that they had been signaling. Time will tell. We don't have long to wait. What I am seeing happens after the sign completes, after September. I'd rather not even mention September because I think we're in the zone where anything could happen at anytime. But after Jupiter leaves the body of Virgo it has a conjunction with Venus a couple of months latter. The two brightest objects pair up in our visible sky which will underscore Jupiter's presence. Will the Son of Man be revealed? From the time of that conjunction until the sun is "darkened" will mark out a third of a span of 1260 days.

There's some other things that involves doctrine. I can count 1290 days to the "darkened" sun. I think that we are much further through Revelation than most scholars have figured out. Maybe not everything is like the theologians told us it would be. But if this is true, it might mean that the really bad part of the tribulation, the part that Jesus was talking about when He said: "for then there will be great tribulation", might only be 371 days long. Just exactly like it was in the days of Noah. After that conjunction, I can count 371 days until the sun is "darkened" and the moon will not give her light.

That's what I think.
You should post more often Dave. I've never heard of you until just now. I found your post to be most interesting.
 
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Betcha you got all lathered up back in 2015 as well, huh?...how did that work out for your bar graphs?
That's funny. I don't usually use that "all lathered up" phrase.

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Nope, I didn't get all lathered up in 2015. It was in 2013 that I found it out, and I didn't get all lathered up. That made the bar graphs. The graphs wouldn't be possible without the tetrads. Those tetrads are centered exactly in between two lunar triples which also have solar activity. Joel's sun at the left side, Matthew's "darkened" sun at the right side. Like two sets of bookends.


Tetradbg1large_zpsef22024a.jpg


It was on the third weekend of July. I thought that I had been included or given a glimpse in a knowledge of God's awesome plan. I made my first graph and stared at it until 4 AM. But I knew what it would look like before I made it. The numbers can be divided into one another.



We can have a solar eclipse, and then 14 days latter a lunar eclipse. That's celestial mechanics for you. Try counting the days in between them:

(O)14(o) <-------AND-------> (O)14(o),

You will come up with numbers that look like these:

(O)14(o) <------------1588------------> (O)14(o)
(O)14(o) <----------1550----------> (O)14(o)
(O)14(o) <---------1372---------> (O)14(o)
(O)14(o) <--------1209--------> (O)14(o)
(O)14(o) <------1195------> (O)14(o)




See how one of those numbers compares with the three other numbers, the three prophetic time periods, we recognize that were written in Daniel 2600 years ago:



<----1260---->
<-----1290-----> 0.976744186046512
<------1335------> 0.966292134831461
<-------1372-------> 0.973032069970845



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I think that the solar eclipse which creates that 1372 number, the right bookend, is the one that Jesus is talking about in the Olivet, the "darkened" sun. And it's from that solar eclipse that I can count 1290 days from an abomination. 777 days from when Jupiter entered into the body of Virgo to start the Revelation 12 sign. And then 420/371 days from when Jupiter exits the body of Virgo and is then joined in a conjunction with Venus. Noah spent 371 days inside the ark. Jesus said our end time tribulation would be the worst ever such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. Wouldn't that mean that our end time tribulation couldn't be any longer in duration than the time of Noah? I'm not talking about the Antichrist's 42 months, he can still have that.

But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

420/371?
 

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Another interesting concept is that this will fall on the heels of the feast of trumpets as well......very interesting for sure....
It IS interesting. Some say He will return on a certain feast day. But it seems too easy, or is too hard for me to understand. I've seen others add up times of 1290 or 1335 from one event to another feast day but I can't figure anything out with them.

I think that the Fig Tree is going to shed it's WINTER Fruit when shaken by a Mighty wind. And I think that the sun will be "darkened" in January and the moon will not give her light.
 

dcontroversal

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It IS interesting. Some say He will return on a certain feast day. But it seems too easy, or is too hard for me to understand. I've seen others add up times of 1290 or 1335 from one event to another feast day but I can't figure anything out with them.

I think that the Fig Tree is going to shed it's WINTER Fruit when shaken by a Mighty wind. And I think that the sun will be "darkened" in January and the moon will not give her light.
I believe Daniel 12 gives us a fine description of the 1335 days....me personally, I believe the first 1185 days of the 70th week were fulfilled during the personal ministry of Jesus unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel....and what is left is the last 1335 days.......busted into three time frames...30 days, 1260 days and 45 days.......
 

garee

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In Genesis 1:14-19 God establishes the sun, moon and stars....he then lists 4 things they would be used for....Signs is first on the list.....throughout history we see the sun, moon and stars being used by God in unique ways to work his will or announce his will and this very applicable truth is woven throughout the bible with many events such as

Exodus <--Three days and nights of darkness Exodus 10:21-22
Joshua <--The sun and moon held in place almost a day Joshua 10:13
Job <----The 12 signs of the Mazzaroth and other astronomical events mentioned Job 26:11, 13-14 and Job 38:32
Hezekiah and proof he would live<---2nd Kings 20:9-11 and Isaiah 38:8
Jesus and his birth<---Matthew 2:1-2

Having said this.....On September the 23rd, only once in like an estimated 7000 years and after the Feast of the Trumpets which starts at sunset on the 21st and ends at sunset on the 23rd the stars, planets, sun and moon will align to mirror the sign found in Revelation 12......

What do you all think about this and do you believe this is significant.......

A sign from the God of heaven to humanity?
The Zodiac is not a source of Christian faith. It comes from the father of lies..We walk by faith and not by sight.

And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman(Christ's bride the church) clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her (Christ's bride the church)head a crown of twelve stars:And she (Christ's bride the church) being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.Rev 12:2


The Sun as the temporal source of light and the lesser light reflected by the moon are appointed as time keepers they will disappear on the last day as under the feet of His bride .

She is pictured in that parable found in Revelation 12. God who is light will be the light as he was on day 1.The word day which equals twelve hours of darkness and twelve hours of light (24 hours) was switched on day four, previously from the light from his own countenance the supernatural, with the flick of a switch over to the temporal as under the sun .It was them the stars did shine.


And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Gen 1:14

His bride is clothed with the righteousness of Christ typified by the Son. His bride as the mother of us all continues as she hold out the incorruptible seed of His word.. suffering as in birth pains as a segregate womb. Paul was used as the bride//mother in Christ in that way .

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
 

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Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

70 weeks are determined upon Israel as a nation to accept Jesus,anoint the most Holy.

Israel is blinded in part,they do not accept Jesus as a nation,but they accept the Old Testament,until the fulfilling of the Gentiles be come in,when salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,and so all Israel shall be saved,which God will make a full end of all nations where He scattered the Jews,but will not make a full end of Israel,but she will not be wholly unpunished,and after she has borne her shame then the kingdom will be restored to Israel.

The 7 years perod is the time God causes all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,and bring Israel as a nation to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Israel is protected for the first three and one half years of the 7 years period from physical attack.

Gentiles can still receive salvation during the first three and one half years,and the world will operate by the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and a unified religious system,whose format is the new age movement,with the Bible,Islam,and Judaism,interpreted to fit that format.

It will be the time that the world will not endure the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts,spiritual evolution through nature,and it will be a hate crime to try to convert someone to their religion,punishable in the international court system,which sparks the religion of Islam for they will say it is an insult to Allah,and the world and Islam will clash resulting in one third of the population of the world to perish,and nuclear weapons devastate the Arab countries,which the beast plucks up 3 horns by the roots.

That war is so terrible that the world turns to the man of sin to help them with trying to have peace on earth.

The man of sin claims to be the Jews God and Messiah,and addresses the world He is God by harnessing the power of nature.The false prophet does great wonders to convince the world that the first beast did harness the power of nature,and gave him power to do miracles.

Then the great tribulation.

Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The nation of Israel is protected for the last three and one half years from physical attack,and the beast persecutes all people that keep the commandments of God,and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The last 7 years period is in the future,and will start when the man of sin establishes peace in the Middle East,which will start the ten horn kingdom,and the world will says Peace and safety,as they try to establish peace on earth.

The abomination of desolation is in the future,for Israel will go back to animal sacrifices,and the man of sin will step in their temple,and claim to be God and their Messiah.
 

garee

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Well here's one for you, my good friend....I do believe that the bride WILL be caught up very soon Possibly on Sept 23

Let the mockers mock.

For those mockers? The important thing is to be ready. If you are not ready, then get ready! Repentance, which is rarely taught in Churchianity, is more than just feeling bad about your sin. It's stopping sinning and changing your lifestyle to match the Word. The bride is the one who is LOOKING for His return..The Bride is the one who has MADE HERSELF READY. Are you looking for Him? Are you making yourself ready? If not you stand a really good chance of missing the Rapture.

God does have a time table. Let's pay attention to that.
Yes he does have a time table. He will come as a thief in the night...sudden destruction without a warning .
 
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The Zodiac is not a source of Christian faith. It comes from the father of lies..We walk by faith and not by sight.

And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman(Christ's bride the church) clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her (Christ's bride the church)head a crown of twelve stars:And she (Christ's bride the church) being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.Rev 12:2


The Sun as the temporal source of light and the lesser light reflected by the moon are appointed as time keepers they will disappear on the last day as under the feet of His bride .

She is pictured in that parable found in Revelation 12. God who is light will be the light as he was on day 1.The word day which equals twelve hours of darkness and twelve hours of light (24 hours) was switched on day four, previously from the light from his own countenance the supernatural, with the flick of a switch over to the temporal as under the sun .It was them the stars did shine.


And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Gen 1:14

His bride is clothed with the righteousness of Christ typified by the Son. His bride as the mother of us all continues as she hold out the incorruptible seed of His word.. suffering as in birth pains as a segregate womb. Paul was used as the bride//mother in Christ in that way .

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
Garee...If there is a Zodiac, and its a counterfeit, you know that there is the real thing out there. I read a book once called "The Gospel in the stars" A very good book which talked about the signs God put into the stars for us to see. You might want to look it up.
 

dcontroversal

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The Zodiac is not a source of Christian faith. It comes from the father of lies..We walk by faith and not by sight.

And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman(Christ's bride the church) clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her (Christ's bride the church)head a crown of twelve stars:And she (Christ's bride the church) being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.Rev 12:2


The Sun as the temporal source of light and the lesser light reflected by the moon are appointed as time keepers they will disappear on the last day as under the feet of His bride .

She is pictured in that parable found in Revelation 12. God who is light will be the light as he was on day 1.The word day which equals twelve hours of darkness and twelve hours of light (24 hours) was switched on day four, previously from the light from his own countenance the supernatural, with the flick of a switch over to the temporal as under the sun .It was them the stars did shine.


And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Gen 1:14

His bride is clothed with the righteousness of Christ typified by the Son. His bride as the mother of us all continues as she hold out the incorruptible seed of His word.. suffering as in birth pains as a segregate womb. Paul was used as the bride//mother in Christ in that way .

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
Your first statement tells me you are missing the train...did you see the word ZODIAC in my post....? NO....but you did see the word MAZZAROTH which is inspired in JOB and before being CORRUPTED by ASTROLOGY testified of the whole story...

NOW....go learn a bit and then come back and make statements that actually have bearing on the thread!
 

dcontroversal

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Garee...If there is a Zodiac, and its a counterfeit, you know that there is the real thing out there. I read a book once called "The Gospel in the stars" A very good book which talked about the signs God put into the stars for us to see. You might want to look it up.
AMEN...accurately described in JOB under the INSPIRED word and named the MAZZAROTH..........
 

dcontroversal

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Yes he does have a time table. He will come as a thief in the night...sudden destruction without a warning .
Another out of context statement....now read down 3 more verse...BUT YOU BRETHERN, ARE NOT IN DARKNESS THAT THAT DAY SHOULD OVERTAKE YOU AS A THIEF....

Do you even study?
 

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The Zodiac is not a source of Christian faith. It comes from the father of lies..We walk by faith and not by sight.

God who is light will be the light as he was on day 1.The word day which equals twelve hours of darkness and twelve hours of light (24 hours) was switched on day four, previously from the light from his own countenance the supernatural, with the flick of a switch over to the temporal as under the sun.
Wow, so in Genesis 1:3 God said let there be God and he saw himself huh? Wow

So in Genesis 1:2 the Spirit of God is moving upon the face of the deep and darkness was upon the waters so what did God divide himself from? the Spirit of God?

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Gen 1:14
So God set the sun and the moon in the open firmament of heaven in Genesis 1:6 where the birds fly. Wow.

It was them the stars did shine.
If they didn't shine in the light of God then I guess they were​
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All I can say is wow.

 
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Wow, so in Genesis 1:3 God said let there be God and he saw himself huh? Wow

So in Genesis 1:2 the Spirit of God is moving upon the face of the deep and darkness was upon the waters so what did God divide himself from? the Spirit of God?



So God set the sun and the moon in the open firmament of heaven in Genesis 1:6 where the birds fly. Wow.

If they didn't shine in the light of God then I guess they were​
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All I can say is wow.

Wow....Did you notice? Your whole answer here is nothing but sarcasm. In genesis 1:3 "light" translates to 'a revelation of God' Let there be a revalation of God. and there was
 

garee

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Another out of context statement....now read down 3 more verse...BUT YOU BRETHERN, ARE NOT IN DARKNESS THAT THAT DAY SHOULD OVERTAKE YOU AS A THIEF....

Do you even study?
I do my best.

It won't overtake us any more than it overtook Noah and his family who also knew not the day, hour, week or month . The day or hour no one knows. We are prepared by faith just as was Noah.

By setting dates many good theologians have fallen short of the glory of God.. No guessing is allowed.. No need for it …we walk by faith of God, the unseen, the twinkling of the eye on the last day .
 

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You know there's a scripture in the Bible that says, "look up for your redemption draws near" do ya think everyone was staring at the ground?

D. Thanks for posting this was unaware will surely look into the matter and respond with my thoughts.

As far as hagee and the blood moon story I think alot of changes occured. Maybe not as intense as some might see but Magog has alot of publicity lately.

Some of you so called saints here keep arguing...... quite an example of being born again...no wonder this world laughs at us.
 

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Some time ago I saw a book that explained according to the Author how the signs of the Zodiac represented Jesus, the Disciples and various Gospel details. This business seems to be a variation on the theme. I predict that after 23 September pundits will be combing the world news searching for an event that they can claim to be connected with this. In the UK we have a magazine that is issued every year called Old Moors Almanac that supposedly predicts major world events for the coming year based on Astrology. Sometimes the writers get a thing right but more often they don't.
 

Zmouth

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Wow....Did you notice? Your whole answer here is nothing but sarcasm. In genesis 1:3 "light" translates to 'a revelation of God' Let there be a revalation of God. and there was
And let me guess, the language it translates into is called what, Jibberish?

I don't have a problem with another person's interpretation of the scriptures since it is written in 2 Peter 1:20 that no prophesy of scriptures is of any private interpretation which is the reason I provided him the opportunity to sanctify his God by asking him about his interpretation since it is written in 1 Peter 3:15 "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:"

In the Gospel, the LORD taught me that if his word does hold true about the earthly things, which we can examine and validate then there is no sense even listening to him about the heavenly things. Since the LORD is a God of truth, which considering the passage of John 4:24 might be interpreted as the Spirit of Truth, then it is little wonder why some are waiting upon the return of the Son of God when the Holy Ghost has never left.
 

dcontroversal

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I do my best.

It won't overtake us any more than it overtook Noah and his family who also knew not the day, hour, week or month . The day or hour no one knows. We are prepared by faith just as was Noah.

By setting dates many good theologians have fallen short of the glory of God.. No guessing is allowed.. No need for it …we walk by faith of God, the unseen, the twinkling of the eye on the last day .
Did I set a date?