Gay and confused

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Kerry

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my friend the bible verse are dual in nature ;)
I suppose, God is not just homosexuality but also sexual immorality it's a pet peeve so to speak. why because it is flesh and pride against the morals he has set forth and pride is the fall of Satan.
 
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ELECT

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I suppose, God is not just homosexuality but also sexual immorality it's a pet peeve so to speak. why because it is flesh and pride against the morals he has set forth and pride is the fall of Satan.
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kaylagrl

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Being gay is not a sin. Shunning him for being such IS! If we are not gathering, then we are surely scattering abroad.

And before anyone start posting verses trying to explain that it is, I ask what do you believe Christ changed with His death? Simply killing sheep and other animals in a building?

Christ didnt change the fact that being gay is wrong with his death.Its not the right path.Its not His best for us and your are harming the OP to say that it is right. God loves him and wants the very best.Some times we think we know whats best and we think "how can it be so wrong if it feels right to me?" But the Bible says its not the best path for us.Ravi Zacharias did a great job speaking on this subject....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqTbXHsOrGM
 
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kaylagrl

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Technically, only the act of gay sex is represented as sin, not homosexuality (being attracted to the same sex). I have a question or two, though. Firstly, if homosexual intercourse is a sin (Leviticus) and you staunchly advocate the validity of this teaching, why do you not also advocate the validity of; stoning adulteresses to death (Leviticus); excluding the unclean for a period of time -- unclean being women after childbirth, women on their periods, anyone who touches the skin of a dead pig -- (Leviticus); stoning people caught in the act of gay sex (Leviticus); killing anyone caught worshipping another god other than Yahweh (Leviticus)?

Also, if hell (greek word 'gehenna') is a place where God burns human beings, then why did God in the books of Isaiah and Kings, condemn the people who lived in gehenna (which is a valley outside Jarusalem) before Jesus birth for burning their kin?

Why are you using a Bible,which you dont believe in,to try and prove your point? You're using Scripture to try and make a point.Rather odd.
 
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Being gay is not a sin. Shunning him for being such IS! If we are not gathering, then we are surely scattering abroad.

And before anyone start posting verses trying to explain that it is, I ask what do you believe Christ changed with His death? Simply killing sheep and other animals in a building?
And you were saying jude 1
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
 
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Here is the full testimony of David O'Conner.

– My Testimony

He was a homosexual who even underwent a sex change operation. His story is a great example of the mercy of God. After his initial conversion he has gone through a long process of coming out of the false teachings which pervade much of modern Christianity, some of which I still think he is doing.

It is a great testimony to read or listen to.
 
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kaylagrl

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5 fingers, toes, 2 working arms and legs are "normal" too. If one is born without one or more of these, do you treat him the same as the gay man? All of this stems from faulty teaching, in so much that we do not know what marriage is! It is the Union of the spirit and the flesh. And what God has put together, LET NO MAN TEAR ASUNDER!
You are twisting Scripture.What God joined together was man and woman,if you are trying to say it was something else you are lying and you are causing people who are tempted by homosexuality to stumble and fail. We DO know what marriage is,the Bible tells us. Arms and legs missing is not called perversion in the Bible,dont be obtuse.You know what is meant by not normal.The body is not made for woman to join with woman nor man with man.Common sense,learned that when we were three.My body parts arent the same as a mans for a reason.We were made,by God,to fit each other.The parts fit,simple anatomy.
 
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MaggieMye

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Sure. Don't worry about a building that doesn't have God in it to begin with. Be fully convinced in your own mind. You owe no one else any other thing!
Aren't you being part of the problem??
 

TREX2008

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God loves you brother, don't let anyone on this site, or in this world, tell you otherwise.
 
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Christ didnt change the fact that being gay is wrong with his death.Its not the right path.Its not His best for us and your are harming the OP to say that it is right. God loves him and wants the very best.Some times we think we know whats best and we think "how can it be so wrong if it feels right to me?" But the Bible says its not the best path for us.Ravi Zacharias did a great job speaking on this subject....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqTbXHsOrGM
Is it better to forgive or to not forgive? I choose to give him rest!
 
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And you were saying jude 1
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Hard to even begin to explain this when you all are stuck on what "angels" mean, let alone "fornication!"

Revelation speaks of fornication too. Do you all believe that one literal woman fornicated with billions of men???? Think, people!
 
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You are twisting Scripture.What God joined together was man and woman,if you are trying to say it was something else you are lying and you are causing people who are tempted by homosexuality to stumble and fail. We DO know what marriage is,the Bible tells us. Arms and legs missing is not called perversion in the Bible,dont be obtuse.You know what is meant by not normal.The body is not made for woman to join with woman nor man with man.Common sense,learned that when we were three.My body parts arent the same as a mans for a reason.We were made,by God,to fit each other.The parts fit,simple anatomy.

Malachi 2

13 And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the Lord with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
14 Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the Lord hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
16 For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.

It's not me who lies and twists things around, it's that preacher and the State that you listen and give your money to that's doing it. EVERYONE who is living is married, the covenant between the flesh and the spirit given him. And again I say what God has put together, let NO MAN rip asunder!!
 
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Genesis 5

5 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Again, stop listening to these preachers for hire! They're leading you straight into a ditch!
 

damombomb

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Here is the full testimony of David O'Conner.

– My Testimony

He was a homosexual who even underwent a sex change operation. His story is a great example of the mercy of God. After his initial conversion he has gone through a long process of coming out of the false teachings which pervade much of modern Christianity, some of which I still think he is doing.

It is a great testimony to read or listen to.
Praise God,what a testimony!
 

AzureAfire

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Being gay is not a sin. Shunning him for being such IS! If we are not gathering, then we are surely scattering abroad.

And before anyone start posting verses trying to explain that it is, I ask what do you believe Christ changed with His death? Simply killing sheep and other animals in a building?

5 fingers, toes, 2 working arms and legs are "normal" too. If one is born without one or more of these, do you treat him the same as the gay man? All of this stems from faulty teaching, in so much that we do not know what marriage is! It is the Union of the spirit and the flesh. And what God has put together, LET NO MAN TEAR ASUNDER!

I do and will continue to defend such people from murderers seeking his life. We are so confused about the bible that even today most believe that Sodom was destroyed because the whole city was gay! 1000's upon 1000's of them! How the hell were they or any other kids born then? Again I know what the law says. You however have the power to forgive. Simply excercise it!
This is just an excuse to hide the truth of our own sins. Adam is dead! Why then are we still following his lead??? And look around you at all the wonderful technology we have today. If lack of money is the reason millions are homeless and starving then surely in its absence we can freely feed all!
Not a twist, it's simply not what you're used to hearing. Your "church" or mainstream Christianity doesn't teach you this because they want you to continue to believe that "this is a fallen world due to the sin of Adam" so "we do need money." It's all a scam! If you all listen to me, we can end all inequality, homelessness, poverty and crime! You can have everything you imagined or even haven't imagined as peace would reign on the earth! No more wars and sicknesses.


No offense taken. I was already warned that the things of God would be foolishness to you.



Hmmm....I think we've heard this all BEFORE, under a DIFFERENT name.

Compare the above quotes to these quotes....


*Posts by Flamingspirit under locked thread, A Biblical verse on accepting our gay brethren: Acts 8:26-40:
-"Condemning gays to hell IS judging according to the flesh. It's judging only by what you see. Put yourself in a gay mans shoes and ask yourself what can happen in your life that will make you gay. In learning to sympathize with him, you will learn that forgiveness in your brother and not condemning him simply by what you see, is walking in the Spirit!

What power can any law have against the man I forgave!?"

-"A man who is born disabled, one arm or leg, 6 fingers on one hand, is this also against the visible nature of God? Are they also sinners who need to repent?

I have yet to meet a man who is attracted to females, but sleep with men to simply do it."


*Posts by Flamingspirit under thread, What Part of the Law is That?:
- "Seeing as not having money is the direct reason that most in the world are starving, homeless or sickly, what law of God commands us to use it?"
- "If we had no money, no one will starve or be homeless. No one would steal if all things were free. Money is a lifeless piece of paper. Why make it an idol any longer?"
- "Money is imaginary. It is only needed because we believe and accept it to be. The garden is in the mind. Now if I had something you want, I can either give it to you or demand something in return. It is a choice."
- "What do you think you're under if I say getting rid of money will greatly benefit all of mankind and I get every excuse why we should keep believing debt is real. The world is $40 trillion in debt..... TO WHO???"


I'll be reporting this.

Servant_of_God, you can claim whatever you believe yourself to be, but you are NOT fooling the LORD and HIS saints. If you truly want to be a REAL servant of GOD, then be faithful to HIS Holy Word. Humble yourself before the LORD, and pray for HIS Holy Spirit to set you free from the deception of Satan, and be TRULY saved and transformed from the corruption of our sinful flesh and the evils of this world. If you don't become part of Jesus Christ's fold, then you will NEVER truly understand HIS Holy Word of Truth and Life and Freedom and Salvation and Grace and Love.



1 Corinthians 2:12-16 King James Version (KJV)


12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.



2 Corinthians 4:1-7 King James Version (KJV)

1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;

2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
 
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Malachi 2

13 And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the Lord with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
14 Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the Lord hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
16 For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.

It's not me who lies and twists things around, it's that preacher and the State that you listen and give your money to that's doing it. EVERYONE who is living is married, the covenant between the flesh and the spirit given him. And again I say what God has put together, let NO MAN rip asunder!!

And for those that can grasp this, they now know what the bible means when it says that the head of EVERY woman (spirit of every male and female) is the man (the flesh of every male and female), and that the head of EVERY man (male and female) is Christ (the Spirit of love)!
 
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Hmmm....I think we've heard this all BEFORE, under a DIFFERENT name.

Compare the above quotes to these quotes....


*Posts by Flamingspirit under locked thread, A Biblical verse on accepting our gay brethren: Acts 8:26-40:
-"Condemning gays to hell IS judging according to the flesh. It's judging only by what you see. Put yourself in a gay mans shoes and ask yourself what can happen in your life that will make you gay. In learning to sympathize with him, you will learn that forgiveness in your brother and not condemning him simply by what you see, is walking in the Spirit!

What power can any law have against the man I forgave!?"

-"A man who is born disabled, one arm or leg, 6 fingers on one hand, is this also against the visible nature of God? Are they also sinners who need to repent?

I have yet to meet a man who is attracted to females, but sleep with men to simply do it."


*Posts by Flamingspirit under thread, What Part of the Law is That?:
- "Seeing as not having money is the direct reason that most in the world are starving, homeless or sickly, what law of God commands us to use it?"
- "If we had no money, no one will starve or be homeless. No one would steal if all things were free. Money is a lifeless piece of paper. Why make it an idol any longer?"
- "Money is imaginary. It is only needed because we believe and accept it to be. The garden is in the mind. Now if I had something you want, I can either give it to you or demand something in return. It is a choice."
- "What do you think you're under if I say getting rid of money will greatly benefit all of mankind and I get every excuse why we should keep believing debt is real. The world is $40 trillion in debt..... TO WHO???"


I'll be reporting this.

Servant_of_God, you can claim whatever you believe yourself to be, but you are NOT fooling the LORD and HIS saints. If you truly want to be a REAL servant of GOD, then be faithful to HIS Holy Word. Humble yourself before the LORD, and pray for HIS Holy Spirit to set you free from the deception of Satan, and be TRULY saved and transformed from the corruption of our sinful flesh and the evils of this world. If you don't become part of Jesus Christ's fold, then you will NEVER truly understand HIS Holy Word of Truth and Life and Freedom and Salvation and Grace and Love.



1 Corinthians 2:12-16 King James Version (KJV)


12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.



2 Corinthians 4:1-7 King James Version (KJV)

1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;

2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
You should have. I change not like my Father! What law am I breaking, here or on CC in spreading LOVE! And if I am banned, I will simply come back again. I do not care about reputation, post numbers, friend requests or any of the things you all care about. Frankly I am tired of holding back this wonderful truth given to me. So if still waters want to ban me AGAIN for spreading love, I will simply return under another name, which will ultimately cost him more in storage space!

Hasn't the guy who frequents here who is also routinely banned, do the same? You CANNOT stop the signal!

The only thing I would ask to still waters is if he believes in a trinity, why doesn't he ban all non-trinitarians??

If he's not, then why won't he ban people like bowman who flat out states that all non-trinitarians will burn in hell!!??

I'll tell you why. Because you all LOVE violence, and HATE peace! And my message is that of PEACE!!

****Remember, if and when he does ban me, I HAVE BROKEN ABSOLUTELY NONE OF CC's RULES!!" But you all will accept it as most here are scare of him and hypocrites yourselves!
 
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