Genesis 3:16 Bible Old Testament. Surah 4:34 (Quran)

[Cameron143]

Your comments betray an a priori belief in a certain interpretation of these passages.

Ok. So do you see it differently and why?

 

[Dino246]

Ok. So do you see it differently and why?

See my previous posts in this thread, numbered...

8, 22, 38, 43, 44, and 50.

 

[Cameron143]

See my previous posts in this thread, numbered...

8, 22, 38, 43, 44, and 50.

Appreciate your response but I'll pass on the homework.

 

[Dino246]

Appreciate your response but I'll pass on the homework.

Homework? It will take you all of two minutes to read those posts.

In short, the latter part of Genesis 3 lists consequences for sin, not commands for males and females.

 

[Cameron143]

In short, the latter part of Genesis 3 lists consequences for sin, not commands for males and females.

And I don't disagree in the least.

 

[Dino246]

And I don't disagree in the least.

So why did you previously state, "This is saying women will actually desire to be in the place of authority of the man."

You are suggesting that there is a "place of authority of the man" that women could desire to occupy.

 

[Cameron143]

So why did you previously state, "This is saying women will actually desire to be in the place of authority of the man."

You are suggesting that there is a "place of authority of the man" that women could desire to occupy.

The creation order was in effect since creation whether it was understood or not.

 

[Dino246]

The creation order was in effect since creation whether it was understood or not.

Are you suggesting that Adam's prior creation grants him some kind of inherent authority over Eve, which continues today such that ALL males have authority over ALL females (or, in a more limited sense, husbands over wives)?

 

[Cameron143]

Are you suggesting that Adam's prior creation grants him some kind of inherent authority over Eve, which continues today such that ALL males have authority over ALL females (or, in a more limited sense, husbands over wives)?

No. We're talking about husbands and wives. Her desire is to her husband.
I do not believe men have authority over every woman and never made that suggestion.

 

[Dino246]

No. We're talking about husbands and wives. Her desire is to her husband.
I do not believe men have authority over every woman and never made that suggestion.

Thanks; I appreciate the clarification.

 

[oyster67]

Before I believed in Jesus, I read a lot of religious books. It's no big deal.

...until one knows better.

 

[Cameron143]

Thanks; I appreciate the clarification.

Always welcome. I've read alot of your posts and there is a very high degree of agreement and I've learned a number of things from you. For example, I now know what a priori means.

 

[DavidTree]

I was in a used book store today in the Islam section. it was larger than I expected. I bought a Quran Interpreted by Usuf Ali. It is doubtful that I will be a Muslim but I want to know more. I will seek out an Islamic Forum.

Lord Jesus Christ is the Truth the Way and the Life.

Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’
Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
Acts 4:8-12