God didn't think it robbery to be equal to Himself

[eternally-gratefull]

So Christ is God, in spite of the fact that the Father is Omniscient and the Son is not.

I believe Jesus was omiscient before he emptied himself

who do you think the God of Israel was. Who do you think OY prophesy comes from?

A non omniscient God can not make prophesy.

No one has the power to forgive sin either, Yet Jesus proved he had the power to forgive sin (before he even died)

 

[Shubee]

Then you deny Jesus own words.

Before abraham existed, I existed.

How can jesus exist before abraham unless he was God..

That's not a problem. Christ was always one with the Father and infinite.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

That's not a problem. Christ was always one with the Father and infinite.

Then he is God..

 

[Shubee]

I believe Jesus was omiscient before he emptied himself

who do you think the God of Israel was. Who do you think OY prophesy comes from?

A non omniscient God can not make prophesy.

No one has the power to forgive sin either, Yet Jesus proved he had the power to forgive sin (before he even died)

Did you even look at The Fundamental Beliefs of the Millerites, Circa 2014?

 

[Shubee]

Then he is God..

It is an elementary mathematical fact that some infinities are greater than others.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Did you even look at The Fundamental Beliefs of the Millerites, Circa 2014?

why would I? They have nothing to do with me. is there somethign there I can learn

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It is an elementary mathematical fact that some infinities are greater than others.

the father and I are one..

Thats all I need to know

 

[Shubee]

I believe Jesus was omiscient before he emptied himself

No one has yet dared to touch the evidence already given that Christ is not omniscient now.

 

[Shubee]

why would I? They have nothing to do with me. is there somethign there I can learn

Only an abundance of Scripture that many refuse to believe.

 

[Shubee]

the father and I are one..
Thats all I need to know

I am one with the believers in my Millerite church.

 

[Shubee]

Who do you think OY prophesy comes from?
A non omniscient God can not make prophesy.

I already answered this. See post #16.

I repeat:

The essence of anything infinite is infinity. However, it remains that the Father ranks above the Son by a greater infinity. Please permit me to express my theology with a simpler example. Millerites believe that the Son has an infinite understanding and only knows the present and the past and everything that the Father has revealed to Him with perfect exactness. So the Father is Omniscient but the Son is not. The Scriptural evidence for this doctrine is Revelation 1:1. There, the Father has reportedly given the resurrected Christ a vision of the future to give to the Apostle John.

 

[crossnote]

What kind of God is that? Either one is eternally God or not God at all...one doesn't 'become' God.

What kind of Christian is only declared righteous by God but isn't really?

All Christians who are declared righteous by God also receive the Holy Spirit.
nice evasive question.

 

[crossnote]

What kind of God is that? Either one is eternally God or not God at all...one doesn't 'become' God.

It is an elementary mathematical fact that some infinities are greater than others.

Infinity has nothing to do with measurement.

 

[StoneThrower]

All Christians who are declared righteous by God also receive the Holy Spirit.
nice evasive question.

I am still waiting for him to answer my question how one gets saved and if hes born again?

 

[oldhermit]

Infinity has nothing to do with measurement.

You are correct. Also, there are no levels or degrees of infinite. Something is either infinite or it isn't.

 

[Shubee]

All Christians who are declared righteous by God also receive the Holy Spirit.
nice evasive question.

Remember, justification means, "just as if I never sinned." So is it really true that you never sinned, assuming, of course, that you are justified by faith?

 

[Shubee]

I am still waiting for him to answer my question how one gets saved and if hes born again?

I already answered by quoting fundamental Millerite doctrine:

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

I also stated that there isn't any formula.

 

[Shubee]

Infinity has nothing to do with measurement.

I didn't say that it did.

 

[StoneThrower]

I already answered by quoting fundamental Millerite doctrine:

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

I also stated that there isn't any formula.

So knowing a Bible verse will save someone, and that anyone that can recite it gets to go to heaven?
Thats not what I believe

 

[VCO]

It is an elementary mathematical fact that some infinities are greater than others.

Sorry, you would be wrong there, because there is ONLY ONE INFINITE BEING.


Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.