lol,,,,,,point is "stargazing -Pilgrim",,,,,you forgot all about him,,,,,,when you summed us all up,,,,,,,you didn't notice he had read the bible years ago,,,and he'd been thinking about it most of his life,,,,,,,,,,,scratching my head,,,,,,stargazing pilgrim,,,,,,,,this is how they saw it,,,"this is how i see some things,,,and (i do not see me "iamsoandso" as special,i am a man), there are pointers(just get to the point),,and there are painters(they seem to try to paint you a picture of it), "i suppose me to be an painter,so please suffer me to speak,,an so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i once read about a man,, and this is what i saw ,,,there was two mountains,,,and a river ran out from between the mountains down the valley of it and the bushes and the trees on both sides were on fire,,,and the river was on fire also,,up the river there was a cave and it had a swinging door,,,and it only swung in,,all the water of fire swept through the cracks around the door,and pushed it closed from the inside,,,,now you can pry the door open from the outside and sneak into one of the cracks,,,,but if you go inside the fire and the water is pushing so hard on the inside of the door you will not be able to come back out,,,,,that is you were born a baby,, and you did not know,, and you walked all your days and looked at both sides of the mountians,,and the things you said to "it is so",,,and kept it and to the other you said "not so",,,and it was cast into the river and was carried away in the fire,,,,you know or you do not know,,,you are innocent or you are guilty,,,,you may choose to pry the door open,and go inside,,,but if you do when you are inside and "you know",,,,,,,,,,you cannot go back out and be a baby again "when you did not know",,,,,,you cannot unlearn the thing you find on the other side of the swinging door,, and if you fall after you know,,,you will find the only way out of the cave that i told you,,,the worm of you will go to the door, and it will become the river of fire,and be pushed through the cracks of it, and carried away down the river between the two mountains,,,,it will be as the matter of the earth it will corrupt and return to the atoms,, and the particles of it will be pulled down to the earth in its center and consumed,,,,,,,,,,,stargazing pilgrim,,,,,,on the inside of the door there is no judgment,,, and water flows between the mountains on both sides of it,,,,,,,,,,most will argue with the words of me and others will find it in the scripture,,,,,,,,,,i am in the midst of loving you