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preach Christ crucified.

and protect your family.
and mind your own business.

your little square mile has ruined my nation.
and it's working hard at taking down the late great America.

Second Amendment Hypocrites: Senators Schumer and Feinstein Pack Heat

At the same time, there are outspoken opponents of gun ownership, such as Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Diane Feinstein (D-CA), who are carrying concealed weapons, according to WABC Radio's Mark Levin. Levin, a recognized constitutional expert, heads the Landmark Legal Foundation. The LLF's goal is to protect American's from unreasonable and illegal government intrusions and violations of the US Constitution, including the Second Amendment.
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not AMERICAN citizens first.
odd, that.
A friend of mine was telling me Adam Faith used to carry three loaded guns with him. Apparently killing someone famous gave you kudos!!

I cannot believe this is what civilised people do!
 

iog

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First of all i didnt say i was tired of posting. I said i was tired of bad theology.
And the more posts i read of yours the more tired i get. Im fine with you making
your choice and talking your stand by your conscience....thats all good.
But you dont have the right IMO to use the bible wrongly to drive YOUR position.
i'm copying and posting the word of God this is why I think you know not what bad theolgy is

I'm not posting theory I'm posting the truth!!!

except it!

Goid is a God of love and peace and he is a God of war and destruction

a christian is to be Jesus like

Jesus did not own a weapon or use a weapon

is this bad theology? or will you just flatly reject truth!
 

iog

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Job 1:9-11

King James Version (KJV)

9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

where is your hedge??
 

iog

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  1. Amos 3:6Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?
why is the Lord bringing evil your way?
 
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Abiding

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i'm copying and posting the word of God this is why I think you know not what bad theolgy is

I'm not posting theory I'm posting the truth!!!

except it!

Goid is a God of love and peace and he is a God of war and destruction

a christian is to be Jesus like

Jesus did not own a weapon or use a weapon

is this bad theology? or will you just flatly reject truth!

No you havnt....maybe i should go back a reread every post i may have missed
one but your use of the bible is terrible. Do a study on self defense.

For instance protecting yourself isnt vengeance which was one of your early posts.
So that doesnt fit the OP. Nor is it good for you to say it does.

If youd like ill go through everyone of your posts and explain to you how
u are using the bible improperly to push your personal view. Is that what u want?

And what do you mean will i flatly reject truth...in relation to Jesus not using a weapon?
Thats a silly one. He didnt drive a car either..did u see Him disappear a few times. or did
you notice He blew a troop of soldiers back. Are u saying we are to do that? Or forget
He commanded his disciples to have enuf swords to protect themselves.

Im not willing to spend alot of time here but if youd like ill sure correct your theology.
Up to you. I think you need to use the bible differently...possibly seeing the HS's intent.
 
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emmab00

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"And what do you mean will i flatly reject truth...in relation to Jesus not using a weapon?
Thats a silly one. He didnt drive a car either..did u see Him disappear a few times. or did
you notice He blew a troop of soldiers back. Are u saying we are to do that? Or forget
He commanded his disciples to have enuf swords to protect themselves."

Are you saying Jesus would approve using weapons?

I seem to remember Jesus saying turn the other cheek, do good to those that despise you etc etc.

Where did he tell his disciples to take literal swords with them? I really only remember the verses where he told them to take nothing with them at all, having faith that they will be provided for.
 

zone

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call the police!!! so they can do there job , I don't need ot take the law into my own hands we have the law to do this

when it happens I will post it, it won't happen because the Lord is with me.

what does iog means?

iog
call the police?

ya...we do i guess.
what other choice do we have?











“The world today requires spiritual and moral regeneration. I have no doubt, after many years as a member of our Order, that Freemasonry can play a part in this vital need”.
HM King George VI
November 1951
 
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Abiding

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post the word of God and not you imo to support your view
You have no right to tell me when or when not to post. Or how.
Support my view? youve got 40 pages here and ive yet to state my view.
Except your bad use of scripture to support your view. Ok?
And ill post about it as i desire. The bible is far more important to
me than your view or sentament. And if u want me to be more
cheerful, ill be glad to when your handling the scriptures with better care.
 

zone

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call the police

no I won't stand by I will call the police !!!!

I will call the biggest Gang there is

of course. THE BIG GANG.
the Brotherhood.
THE GUARDIANS...of the bad guys.
you got one thing right anyway.


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and you have another thing right.
they'll all be Judged according to their works.
 
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Ariel82

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These are people on the internet. Christianity has been killed stone dead here in the UK by comments like these here, and I have no answer.
??? "Christianity has been killed stone dead here in the UK"????

sad, but probably false like many of your other statements.

However, didn't you say that guns are banned in the UK?

therefore how does banning guns help spread Christianity if the UK which has a gun bann has a stone dead Chrisitanity (according to your own words)?

i heard that France and UK had a lot of Muslim influences in higher offices of government (from a French citizen), is it true?
 

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of course. THE BIG GANG.
the Brotherhood.
THE GUARDIANS...of the bad guys.
you got one thing right anyway.


We need secret trials, ex-chief of MI5 Baroness Manningham-Buller says

"Secret trials would enable justice to be done in cases where the Government would otherwise have to pay compensation, the former head of MI5 says.

However, Roger Smith, the former director of the human rights organisation Justice, said that the Bill’s provisions “clearly trespass into key fair trial protections of the common law and/or Article 6 [right to fair trial] of the European Convention on Human Rights”. He added: “This is not a time when the Government should be given the balance of any doubt in relation to secrecy and national security. It is a time for secrets to come out of the cupboard.”

We need secret trials, ex-chief of MI5 Baroness Manningham-Buller says | The Times < click


and you have another thing right.
they'll all be Judged according to their works.
You seem well informed Zone, so I will ask you. What is all this I am reading about Bohemian Grove?

Click here
 
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Ariel82

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Where did he tell his disciples to take literal swords with them? I really only remember the verses where he told them to take nothing with them at all, having faith that they will be provided for.
maybe its time to reread the Bible again?

I think everyone should spend a few months out of the year reading it in its entirety.

Luke 22:35-39

New King James Version (NKJV)

35 And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?”
So they said, “Nothing.”
36 Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37 For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’[a] For the things concerning Me have an end.”


38 So they said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.”
And He said to them, “It is enough.”


notice the THEN and the NOW statement? Then He said no money bag, knapsack and sandal. NOW He says money bag, knapsack and sword.
 

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??? "Christianity has been killed stone dead here in the UK"????

sad, but probably false like many of your other statements.

However, didn't you say that guns are banned in the UK?

therefore how does banning guns help spread Christianity if the UK which has a gun bann has a stone dead Chrisitanity (according to your own words)?

i heard that France and UK had a lot of Muslim influences in higher offices of government (from a French citizen), is it true?
It's nothing to do with guns in the UK but rather it is American Christians who set a bad example across the world.
 
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zone

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A friend of mine was telling me Adam Faith used to carry three loaded guns with him. Apparently killing someone famous gave you kudos!!

I cannot believe this is what civilised people do!
maybe you need a doctor?
confusion is a symptom of possible issues.
 
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Ariel82

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American Christians set a bad example across the world.
you need to change your P to a B.


perhaps you should spend more time looking at Christians in England and how to bring Christianity back from the death you perceive there?



Abiding, can I come over for coffee and cookies now?
 
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Abiding

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American Christians set a bad example across the world.
Are you talking about an apostate church filled mostly with tares?
What do u expect them to do. But why the, what is it , 3% pop.
of believers over there? Whats that about? You alls good example?
Oh i get it its american gun laws that did that. nevermind:rolleyes:
 
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??? "Christianity has been killed stone dead here in the UK"????

sad, but probably false like many of your other statements.

However, didn't you say that guns are banned in the UK?

therefore how does banning guns help spread Christianity if the UK which has a gun bann has a stone dead Chrisitanity (according to your own words)?

i heard that France and UK had a lot of Muslim influences in higher offices of government (from a French citizen), is it true?
Being a Brit I'll offer my two pennance worth

The Gospel of Grace, I am guessing is preached plainly, and fully from far more pulpits in the US than on the UK. I base this on the fact that on this website,
there seems to be far more people who fully accept the Gospel Paul was given to preach, than on a mainly British website I spent much time on

It is IMHO the true Gospel that will fill churches(or leave them empty if not preached)