God or Guns?

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Abiding

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Jesus is your defense

Not your weapon

Trust in him

Your weapon can harm. Not one soul if The Lord don't want it

All my verses have to do with the topic
No not really any of them do.
 
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Abiding

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Ecclesiastes 9:18 (KJV)
Wisdom is better than weapons of war: but one sinner destroyeth much good.
since yur cherrypicking out of Ecclesiastes
so will i

Eccl 3:3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
 
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Abiding

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by the way iog im not in this to make my view known
i just dont care for your bible use. I have a hunting
rifle because big game run too fast.
But i dont own a weapon, never have either.
But those that need one im cool with.
 
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Therapon

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Luke 4:10-12 (KJV)
For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee: [11] And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. [12] And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
I read and believe every one of the Scriptures, but the Lord does not usually step in and supernaturally defend people. If you don't believe that, just look at the 20,000,000 people (mostly Christians and Jews) that the Lord allowed to be killed by Nazi Germany during WW2 or read Fox's Book of Martyrs, Martyrs Mirror or the Pilgrim Church. On the other hand, our God is also a God of war . . .

Psa 144:1 "Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight."
 

loveme1

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I read and believe every one of the Scriptures, but the Lord does not usually step in and supernaturally defend people. If you don't believe that, just look at the 20,000,000 people (mostly Christians and Jews) that the Lord allowed to be killed by Nazi Germany during WW2 or read Fox's Book of Martyrs, Martyrs Mirror or the Pilgrim Church. On the other hand, our God is also a God of war . . .

Psa 144:1 "Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight."


The Bible is full of Yahvah God and his wonderful ways of delivering people out of trouble.

We are children of peace.

If it is our day to be killed then so be it.

If it is not then nothing can come against us if Heavenly Father wants us to abide a little longer here.
 

Descyple

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According to the ever-trustworthy minister Benny Hinn, we don't need to choose between God or Guns. We can have both infused.

Check out this brief video where he wishes for a "Holy Ghost Machine Gun" so he could kill Christian ministers who are critical of his teachings.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPB3a8FBeJY[/video]
 
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BarlyGurl

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Luke 4:10-12 (KJV)
For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee: [11] And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. [12] And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
If that isn't the dumbest attempt to use scripture EVER!!!
"dunce cap" award for quoting SATAN attempting to beguile Jesus...
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Therapon

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Check out this brief video where he wishes for a "Holy Ghost Machine Gun" so he could kill Christian ministers who are critical of his teachings.
To reinforce your post, a Christian sister who's 100% stone deaf and rarely talks, was watching Benny Hinn's antics on stage one afternoon. Shaking her finger at the screen, she suddenly shouted, "I don't know who that is, but that's the devil."
 
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iog

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since yur cherrypicking out of Ecclesiastes
so will i

Eccl 3:3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
cherry picking is how the bible is to be read.

anyway let me cheery pick some more

Proverbs 30:14
There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.

when did Jesus tell you to kill?

when is there atie to kill according to the Lord?
 

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If that isn't the dumbest attempt to use scripture EVER!!!
"dunce cap" award for quoting SATAN attempting to beguile Jesus...
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and yet you ignore the commandment of God

Exodus 20:13
Thou shalt not kill.

its sad when people comment on things they know nothing of

PAY ATTENTiON

Luke 4:10
For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:

lets go find where it is written
Psalm 91:11For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

thank God I'm not a rocket scientist like YOU sister

Satan quoted Psalms

I will get off the chair and you can sit there for the rest of the year:eek:

its sad when folks are scared to say they don't know and yet try to show people the are knowledgeable when they are not.
 

iog

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I read and believe every one of the Scriptures, but the Lord does not usually step in and supernaturally defend people. If you don't believe that, just look at the 20,000,000 people (mostly Christians and Jews) that the Lord allowed to be killed by Nazi Germany during WW2 or read Fox's Book of Martyrs, Martyrs Mirror or the Pilgrim Church. On the other hand, our God is also a God of war . . .

Psa 144:1 "Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight."
what?

lets take facts from the bible where we can read the Lord going up and fighting for Israel in the day of battle

Zechariah 14:3
Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Joshua 10:13-15

King James Version (KJV)

13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the Lord hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the Lord fought for Israel.
15 And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, unto the camp to Gilgal

2 Chronicles 20:28-30

King James Version (KJV)

28 And they came to Jerusalem with psalteries and harps and trumpets unto the house of the Lord.
29 And the fear of God was on all the kingdoms of those countries, when they had heard that the Lord fought against the enemies of Israel.
30 So the realm of Jehoshaphat was quiet: for his God gave him rest round about.

supernatural is man's concept of not understanding
what happen in WW2, I don't know
what happen in the pages of the bible from Genesis to Revelation God fought for his people, when they were waliking right or when they called upon his name
 

iog

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I read and believe every one of the Scriptures, but the Lord does not usually step in and supernaturally defend people. If you don't believe that, just look at the 20,000,000 people (mostly Christians and Jews) that the Lord allowed to be killed by Nazi Germany during WW2 or read Fox's Book of Martyrs, Martyrs Mirror or the Pilgrim Church. On the other hand, our God is also a God of war . . .

Psa 144:1 "Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight."
who is the Lord talking to?


2 Samuel 23:1-3

King James Version (KJV)

23 Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,
2 The Spirit of the Lord spake by me, and his word was in my tongue.
3 The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.
 

iog

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by the way iog im not in this to make my view known
i just dont care for your bible use. I have a hunting
rifle because big game run too fast.
But i dont own a weapon, never have either.
But those that need one im cool with.
as i stated before abiding i don't care who owns a weapon its between them and God

what I question is a servant of God carrying a weapon for protection of his family or property

God is suppose to be his or her protection.

what you should do also is go back to the beginning before Adam sinned

nothing was suppose to die not even the animals

death is because of sin
a weapon is for killing whether protection or hunting

go back to the beginning and read where man did not eat meat

and before Adam sinned

notjhing was suppose to die.
 

iog

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because of sin

God had to kill animals to make Adam and Eve clothes

Genesis 3:20-22

King James Version (KJV)

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

we have the first animals killed
 

iog

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Genesis 4
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him
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8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

i wonder what cain slew abel with?
 

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Invasion of the foreign supercops: Minister wants to hire U.S. crimebusters to take over British police
Former Army officers will be recruited as police superintendents


Changes rip up tradition of only British citizens serving in the police
By SIMON WALTERS
PUBLISHED: 00:05 GMT, 20 January 2013 | UPDATED: 00:05 GMT, 20 January 2013

Foreign crimebusters such as US supercop Bill Bratton will be given the chance to take over British police forces under radical new plans to be unveiled by Home Secretary Theresa May.

And former Army officers will be recruited as police superintendents in an attempt to end the ‘closed shop’ police culture blamed for bungled investigations and corruption. The changes, set to be fiercely opposed by police chiefs, rip up the centuries-old tradition of only British citizens serving in the police.

They also abolish the rule that senior policemen have to work their way up from being a bobby on the beat.

Invasion of the foreign supercops: Minister wants to hire U.S. crimebusters to take over British police | Mail Online < click


a-a-a-a-a-n-d here we go folks.
now is the time for the internationalis to pull away the tattered shreds of "national sovereignty".

the US gets Piers Morgan:rolleyes:, and UK gets "US" private men in black force - right on cue.





IT'S GLOBAL, BETH. IT'S GLOBAL.


Joint Vision 2020 - Full Spectrum Dominance
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/jointvision_2020.pdf < click
 

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To reinforce your post, a Christian sister who's 100% stone deaf and rarely talks, was watching Benny Hinn's antics on stage one afternoon. Shaking her finger at the screen, she suddenly shouted, "I don't know who that is, but that's the devil."
No one better get on Benny Hinn's bad side - I heard he carries around two apostolic six-shooters, which he calls "Peter and Paul"
 
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BarlyGurl

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The commandment of God is THOU SHALL NOT M_U_R_D_E_R ...

Go stay in the corner... you have well DEMONstrated the spirit you are of...

John 8:43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father&#8217;s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don&#8217;t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.&#8221;

Get born again in Jesus Or GET LOST as in right NOW!... those are your two options Bow your knee and Declare Jesus Christ is God or depart from here, NOW!
 

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What came through to me is how emotional people get about guns.