God`s 3 Prophetic Days.

Marilyn · Mar 12, 2022

I believe that God has 3 Prophetic Days. The word Day meaning a period of time and a specific Day.

1. The Day of Christ - there is a period of time for Christ to build and mature His Body, (Eph. 4: 11 - 16) plus a specific day for Christ to appear for His Body and take them to glory. (1 Thess. 4: 13 - 18)

2. The Day of the Lord (God Almighty for judgment) - the period of time for God to deal with Israel and the nations, ( Matt. 24: 5 - 28) plus a specific day when the Lord returns to earth to deliver Israel and judge the nations. (Rev. 19: 11 - 21, Matt. 25: 31 - 46) This time period continues into the millennium where the Lord will rule through Israel over the nations with a rod of iron. (Dan. 7: 27, Ps. 2)

3. The Day of God - the new heavens and new earth, eternity.

Runningman · Mar 12, 2022

I predict the majority of this thread will be fierce opposition to what you just posted. Thanks for sharing your opinion though.

DanielLL · Mar 12, 2022

The 70th had to already have started, because Messiah was born and cut off at the 70th week:

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, [...]

If you deny the 70th week already started, you deny Messiah already came in the flesh. You also deny the confirmation of the covenant:

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: [...]

tourist · Mar 12, 2022

DanielLL said:

Based on Daniel 9:27 it appears that it is the anti-christ that confirms the covenant for one week. Scripture indicates that the Messiah was cut off at the conclusion of the 69th week. There is no scripture that indicates that the confirmation of the covenant for one week has already happen, therefore, the 70th week has not yet taken place.

DanielLL · Mar 12, 2022

tourist said:

I know it "appears" but It was Jesus who confirmed the covenant, He alone caused sacrifices to cease:

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [...]

tourist said:

Messiah was cut off "after" the 69 weeks:

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, [...]

tourist said:

Wasn't Messiah already "cut off", didn't He "caused the sacrifice and the oblation to cease"? All these happend at the 70th week, when Messiah "sealed up the vision and prophecy".

tourist · Mar 12, 2022

DanielLL said:

I know it "appears" but It was Jesus who confirmed the covenant, He alone caused sacrifices to cease:

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [...]

Messiah was cut off "after" the 69 weeks:

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, [...]

Wasn't Messiah already "cut off", didn't He "caused the sacrifice and the oblation to cease"? All these happened at the 70th week, when Messiah "sealed up the vision and prophecy".

Something to consider.

DanielLL · Mar 12, 2022

tourist said:

Ok, fair enough. I've been on the forums the past couple weeks and you are the first to even consider. Messiah was the 70th week, as for the "prince that shall come", is prophecy on the destruction of the sanctuary by the romans, a generation after the 70th week, fulfilling all prophecy from Messiah, that the generation would not pass away until He comes back, and that not one stone of the temple would be left on top of another, all would be thrown down. And I can prove it to you, if you want to discuss the destruction of the temple.

Marilyn · Mar 12, 2022

DanielLL said:

`Seventy weeks (units of seven) are determined FOR YOUR PEOPLE AND FOR YOUR HOLY CITY...` (Dan. 9: 24)

So when do we see God completing His purposes for Israel, its people and the Holy city. Certainly not seen today as Jerusalem is still trodden down under foot of the Gentiles. (Luke 21: 24)

Marilyn · Mar 12, 2022

DanielLL said:

Jesus doesn`t confirm the covenant He is the covenant. (Isa. 49: 8) And He will fulfill His purpose for the nation of Israel. That is when the `vision and prophecy` is sealed, fulfilled. It obviously has not happened yet.

Nehemiah6 · Mar 12, 2022

DanielLL said:

Do not confuse Christ with the Antichrist. The 70th week belongs to the Antichrist.

Marilyn · Mar 13, 2022

let`s look at what God`s word says about these Days.

1. The Day of Christ, (the Lord Jesus Christ) - for building up and maturing the Body of Christ.

Paul talking to his Philippian disciples `...being confident of this very thing, that He who begun a good work in you will complete it until the Day of Christ.......that you may approve the things that are excellent, that you may be sincere and without offence till the Day of Christ.` (Phil. 1: 6 - 10)

`holding fast the word of life so that I may rejoice in the day of Christ that I have not run in vain or laboured in vain.` (Phil. 2: 16)

Paul talking to his Corinthian disciples `...so that you come short in no gift, eagerly waiting for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will confirm you to the end, that you may be blameless in the Day of our Lord Jesus Christ.` (1 Cor. 1: 7 & 8)

2. The Day of the LORD (God Almighty) - in wrath and judgment on the nations.

`Blow the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; for the day of the LORD is coming, for it is at hand: a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness...` (Joel 2: 1 & 2)

`The great Day of the LORD is near; it is near and hastens quickly.

The noise of the day of the LORD is bitter; there the mighty men shall cry out.

That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress,

a day of devastation and desolation,

a day of darkness and thick gloominess,

a day of clouds and thick darkness,

a day of trumpet and alarm against the fortified cities and against the high towers.` (Zeph. 1: 14 - 16)

3. The Day of God. (NHNE)

`the day of God, ...the heavens being on fire, will be dissolved and the elements will melt with fervent heat.` (2 Peter 3: 12)

DanielLL · Mar 13, 2022

Marilyn said:

By that logic you have to deny Messiah also, because you didn't saw Him. So, according to your logic, He didn't came in the flesh, right?
Just because you didn't saw it doesn't mean it didn't happened. All we have is Scripture to tell us what happened.

Marilyn said:

You can't present me with one singular Messianic Prophecy that wasn't fulfilled in Jesus, because He "sealed up" all "vision and prophecy" during His ministry, including the 70th weeks of Daniel. All Messianic prophecy was fulfilled in Him at the 70th week. there is no other way around it without denying Messiah. You say it didn't happened yet based on your own senses and understanding, not based on Scripture, because the only argument you have presented me with is that you didn't see it. As if you were some kind of jury or the deciding factor, when it comes to prophecy.

Nehemiah6 said:

Messiah was clearly "cut off" after the 69 weeks, within the 70th week:

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off [...]

I say: it is Messiah who causes the sacrifices to cease, since sacrifices are wicked and an abomination:

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease

Nehemiah6 · Mar 13, 2022

DanielLL said:

Messiah was cut off AT THE END OF the 69th week. Please go back and read the passage carefully. Messiah has nothing to do with the 70th week.

Marilyn · Mar 13, 2022

DanielLL said:

`See` was referring to what is written not with the eye.

Glad that we can agree that the Lord accomplished salvation by His death on the cross. However there were still Messianic prophecies that came after His resurrection and there are those still to be outworked.

`Oh clap your hands, all you peoples! Shut to God with the voice of triumph! For the Lord Most High is awesome; He is King over all the earth. He will subdue the peoples under us and the nations under our feet. He will choose our inheritance for us, the excellence of Jacob whom He loves. God has GONE UP WITH A SHOUT. ......` (Ps. 47)

`Lift up your heads, O you gates! and lift them up you everlasting doors! And the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle....` (Ps. 24: 7 & 8)

`The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool." (Ps. 110: 1)

`Ask of me, and I will give you the nations for your inheritance, and the ends of the earth for your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron...` (Ps. 2: 8 & 9)

Just some Messianic prophecies that came after the Lord ascended and a couple that refer to things to yet be outworked because of Christ`s work on the cross.

DanielLL · Mar 13, 2022

Nehemiah6 said:

"After" means even after the end of the 69th week, it means after 69 weeks, that is, at the 70th week:

Daniel 9:27 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,

Marilyn said:

All Messianic prophecies were fulfilled in Messiah, there can't be one unfulfilled prophecy in Messiah, I don't know if you are understanding, that would deny Messiah, even just one prophecy. So if you believe Jesus was the Messiah, you believe that Jesus fulfilled all Messianic prophecies, that is basically what Messiah does:

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Marilyn said:

You see, there is a difference, Messiah needs to sit at the right hand of the Father, which He did. It is the Father who makes His enemies his footstool. So, Messiah fulfilled His prophecy, then Father in due time, makes His enemies His footstool.

Marilyn said:

The Good Shepperd uses a rod of iron to protect the sheep from the wolves, He fulfilled this, by rebuking the wolves:

2 Esdras 12:31 And the lion, whom thou sawest rising up out of the wood, and roaring, and speaking to the eagle, and rebuking her for her unrighteousness with all the words which thou hast heard;
32 This is the anointed, which the Highest hath kept for them and for their wickedness unto the end: he shall reprove them, and shall upbraid them with their cruelty.
33 For he shall set them before him alive in judgment, and shall rebuke them, and correct them.

It is also symbolic of a King, and Judgement, Messiah fulfilled this since He is the King of the Jews and He has Judged them righteously during His ministry, both the wolves that He rebuked, and also the sheep when He forgave the women caught in adultery.

Nehemiah6 · Mar 13, 2022

DanielLL said:

You are still very confused about this matter so I will not even bother to address what you have written here.

Marilyn · Mar 13, 2022

DanielLL said:

All Messianic prophecies were fulfilled in Messiah, there can't be one unfulfilled prophecy in Messiah, I don't know if you are understanding, that would deny Messiah, even just one prophecy. So if you believe Jesus was the Messiah, you believe that Jesus fulfilled all Messianic prophecies, that is basically what Messiah does:

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

You see, there is a difference, Messiah needs to sit at the right hand of the Father, which He did. It is the Father who makes His enemies his footstool. So, Messiah fulfilled His prophecy, then Father in due time, makes His enemies His footstool.

The Good Shepperd uses a rod of iron to protect the sheep from the wolves, He fulfilled this, by rebuking the wolves:

2 Esdras 12:31 And the lion, whom thou sawest rising up out of the wood, and roaring, and speaking to the eagle, and rebuking her for her unrighteousness with all the words which thou hast heard;
32 This is the anointed, which the Highest hath kept for them and for their wickedness unto the end: he shall reprove them, and shall upbraid them with their cruelty.
33 For he shall set them before him alive in judgment, and shall rebuke them, and correct them.

It is also symbolic of a King, and Judgement, Messiah fulfilled this since He is the King of the Jews and He has Judged them righteously during His ministry, both the wolves that He rebuked, and also the sheep when He forgave the women caught in adultery.

All Messianic prophecies are based on Christ`s work upon the cross however these prophecies need to be OUTWORKED IN TIME. That is the point you are missing.

In our lives the work of Christ on the cross is being outworked, and for Israel Christ`s work on the cross will be outworked for them as a nation in the future.

DanielLL · Mar 13, 2022

Marilyn said:

Im just saying Messiah fulfilled all Messianic Prophecy, if there is some work remaining in the future, it is the people, or Israel, or others that have to do the work. Because Messiah had to fulfill all Messianic prophecy, in order for Him to be Messiah, that is all.
The works of other people in the future are not Messianic Prophecy.

Marilyn · Mar 13, 2022

DanielLL said:

God does not start out accomplishing His work to leave it to man to complete it in their own strength.

`Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit says the LORD of hosts.` (Zech. 4: 6)

DanielLL · Mar 14, 2022

Marilyn said:

Right, which means Messiah finished His work, fulfilled all Messianic Prophecies. The works of man is not Messianic Prophecy.

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