God`s 3 Prophetic Days.

[Carry_Your_Name]

Bare minimum? what is the gown of the 144000? There is no other gown written, only the "white robes", or "garments"
The bride's wedding gown is white:

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

It is also clean, like the great multitude of all nation, who washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb, and made them white:

Revalation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

So, why does it say the righteousness of the saints? There are saints from all nations. The Word didn't specify, it were only the 144000, so we can't assume that. And there is no reason for it, there is a clear connection to the white robes of the great multitude of all nations.

Unless you believe that the 144,000 and the Great Multitude are the same, only one group is the bride and the other is the guests. No matter how you interpret Revelation 19:8, the very next verse says about the GUESTS, the same guests that Jesus talked about in the parable of the king's wedding feast, and only those who are wearing this white robe can be accepted, those who don't are thrown out into utter darkness. The bible doesn't contradict itself, one verse doesn't contradict the next verse.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

As you quoted -

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

The `her,` is the WIFE - `Let US be glad and rejoice and give glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His WIFE has made herself ready.` (Rev. 19: 7)

The WIFE is Israel to who God has betrothed forever, (Hosea 2: 19 & 20). They rebelled, God divorced them, and later He will again`marry` connect with them again.

The Body of Christ is the `US,` represented by the 24 Elders.

Those 24 Elders represent 24 the divisions of priesthood, not 24 bishops or any kind of church elders like that. In Luke 1, John's father Zechariah was of the 8th division.

 

[DanielLL]

GUESTS

So, no one is the bride of Christ except the 144000, we are all guests, with no relationship with Him, right?
When He said: I will never leave you or forsake you, It wasn't for us, it was for the 144000 only, yes?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

So, no one is the bride of Christ except the 144000, we are all guests, with no relationship with Him, right?
When He said: I will never leave you or forsake you, It wasn't for us, it was for the 144000 only, yes?

Even for a guest there's a guest list, and a relationship is definitely necessary. Only His chosen ones will be invited, it's like friends and families. As for strangers? Including some of them who think they've known Christ in their entire life? "Most assuredly, I don't know you."

 

[DanielLL]

guest

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Do you have any Scripture to disqualify this great multitude from being the bride of Christ? Because they are the ones with "white robes", just like the bride of Christ. You understand why someone would connect them together, they are both dressed in white, righteousness.

Do you have any reason at all to disqualify the "great multitude" from being the Bride of Christ?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Do you have any Scripture to disqualify this great multitude from being the bride of Christ? Because they are the ones with "white robes", just like the bride of Christ. You understand why someone would connect them together, they are both dressed in white, righteousness.

Do you have any reason at all to disqualify the "great multitude" from being the Bride of Christ?

“Bride” is Israel, always has been and always will be. No other nation is described as a beloved woman whom God cares so much about in the OT prophecy books. In Rev 12 Israel is depicted as a woman clothed in sun. It had been determined since God made the covenant with Abraham. In the end the remnants of Israel will acknowledge Yeshua and return to Him, like Angel/Sarah returning to Michael Hosea in Redeeming Love. There’s no “disqualification” from being the Bride, there’s only disqualification from being a part of the Great Multitude.

 

[Marilyn]

Those 24 Elders represent 24 the divisions of priesthood, not 24 bishops or any kind of church elders like that. In Luke 1, John's father Zechariah was of the 8th division.

Actually the 24 Elders represent the double authority of King & priest.

They are kingpriests that will be seated on thrones. This is the inheritance that was promised to them. They have been made righteous by the blood of Jesus and will then be given authority, crowns, to rule and reign with Christ.

`(Christ) has made us kings & priests to His God...` (Rev. 1: 4)
`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne...` (Rev. 3: 21)

 

[DanielLL]

There’s no “disqualification” from being the Bride, there’s only disqualification from being a part of the Great Multitude.

Right, because you think that Israel the Bride is only 144000 sons of Abraham after the flesh, right? The rest is unmaried guests.

Well, I think you are holding to much on the geneology of the flesh, because God can raise sons of Abraham from stones, you know?

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

-Can you explain why receiving the Holy Ghost is not a marriage? Between God and the bride?

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

-Can you explain why receiving the Holy Ghost is not a marriage? Between God and the bride?

The answer is in Matt. 22:1-14, the parable of the wedding feast. In the very first verse it says that the King has ARRANGED a wedding for His Son. In the ancient time marriages were all arranged, the Bride was a PART of the arrangement, you can't have an arranged wedding without a bride. The only variable is the guests. In this parable, God's invitation is declined by the Jews who were originally on the guest list, therefore the invitation is extended to the gentiles. It never says that the original bride has run away like Julia Roberts, so the Groom goes sweet on a bridemaid, a guest or a random party girl and eventually marries her. That's a rom com, not Word of God.

In most OT prophecies, Israel was compared as a naughty woman who plays the harlot, and yet God has never given up on her as He has a plan to ultimately bring her back. The recent messianic movement is a solid testimony of that. Superceding Israel with the Church is replacement theology, which fuels antisimetism. And just because God pours out His Holy Spirit doesn't mean everybody will receive it. In the parable of ten virgins, only half the church has it when they need it in the middle of the night, the other half has none, does that mean Jesus only marries half of the bride?

And by the way, please, no "Holy Ghost". I know it was my Lord Jesus walking on the sea of Galilee and summoning Peter to come to Him; I know it was Him appearing to Thomas with nail scars in His wrists; a ghost is what they thought they were seeing because they had not received the Holy SPIRIT yet. Ghost is dead, SPIRIT is alive.

 

[DanielLL]

Matt. 22:1-14

There is no Bride in your view of Matthew 22, since both the called and chosen are all guests.
I think the "chosen" are the Bride, due to their wedding garment. Those who have the wedding garment are chosen as the Bride of Christ. Once again connecting the wedding garment, to the white robes, to the white fine linen of the Bride of Christ.

Holy SPIRIT

-Can you explain how receiving the Holy Spirit is not marriage? or not?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

There is no Bride in your view of Matthew 22, since both the called and chosen are all guests.
I think the "chosen" are the Bride, due to their wedding garment. Those who have the wedding garment are chosen as the Bride of Christ. Once again connecting the wedding garment, to the white robes, to the white fine linen of the Bride of Christ.

I told you that's the BARE MINIMUM, not Vera Wong for the Bride, nowhere does it say it's the wedding gown. Those who don't wear that are tied up and thrown out into utter darkness.

-Can you explain how receiving the Holy Spirit is not marriage? or not?

Can you explain why Jesus was using TEN VIRGINS to teach the importance of receiving the Holy Spirit - instead of the Bride?

 

[DanielLL]

I told you that's the BARE MINIMUM

There is no other garment mentioned, is there? How do you know it's the bare minimun if there is no other dress mentioned, not better nor lesser. I think you are assuming multiple dresses and different garments.

And you haven't responded to the fact that there is no Bribe on your view of the wedding, they are all guests according to you, which destroys the purpose of the wedding entirely. Furthermore, according to you the Bride is flesh Israel, which is mentioned to have rejected His invitation, so yet another flaw on your view, because on the wedding are only present what you call guests, of all nations. Your flesh Israel which you call Bride is outside because they rejected the invitation. You need to adress this.

TEN VIRGINS to teach the importance of receiving the Holy Spirit - instead of the Bride?

You haven't responded to my question, I still want to know. But ok. The Five Wise Virgins that were ready are the Bride:

Matthew 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

There is no other garment mentioned, is there? How do you know it's the bare minimun if there is no other dress mentioned, not better nor lesser. I think you are assuming multiple dresses and different garments.

That's not an assumption, go read Matt. 22:12-13 carefully. Even for the guests who are invited, those who don't wear that wedding garment of righteousness are thrown out.

And you haven't responded to the fact that there is no Bribe on your view of the wedding, they are all guests according to you, which destroys the purpose of the wedding entirely. Furthermore, according to you the Bride is flesh Israel, which is mentioned to have rejected His invitation, so yet another flaw on your view, because on the wedding are only present what you call guests, of all nations. Your flesh Israel which you call Bride is outside because they rejected the invitation. You need to adress this.

The Bride is the "Woman of Apocalypse" in Rev. 12, standing on the moon, clothed in sun, with a diadem of twelve stars. That's commonly identified as the Nation of Israel, through whom Christ was brought forth. We the Church is her offsprings. That's the same Bride in Rev. 19:7-8. If you think that's the Church or Virgin Mary, that's your Kool Aid of false doctrine, I can't change your mind on that.

You haven't responded to my question, I still want to know. But ok. The Five Wise Virgins that were ready are the Bride:

Their job is to lead the groom to the bride - who's already waiting for Him, according to Rev. 19:7-8. Since when are the five wise virgins the bride?

Also, in the end after the millennial reign, the Bride is explicitly identified as the city of New Jerusalem, that's not even a person anymore, how do you explain that?

 

[DanielLL]

Even for the guests who are invited, those who don't wear that wedding garment of righteousness are thrown out.

Yes, making those who have the white garments, the Bride. But you can't present me the Bride, can you? Because in your view, there isn't one there. You think these are just guests, even tho they have the wedding garments. Your wedding has no Bride in it, only guests. Your Bride, which is Israel after the flesh is outside because they have rejected the invitation. These are two major points you are yet to adress.

The Bride is the "Woman of Apocalypse" in Rev. 12, standing on the moon, clothed in sun, with a diadem of twelve stars.

Yes, and you think this Bride is only Israel after the flesh for some reason, even tho I already showed you the verses you had to ignore.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Since when are the five wise virgins the bride?

This verse actually proves the Virgins who were Ready, are his Wife:

Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

Matthew 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

-This is yet another clear connection. His Wife is ready, the Wise Virgins are Ready. The Wise Virgins are His Wife.

Bride is explicitly identified as the city of New Jerusalem

Do you think He marries the City or the People living in the City? I don't think you can marry buildings and walls

Yet another verse that proves New Jerusalem is made out of all nations, so if New Jerusalem is the Bride, then the Bride is from all nations:

Revelation 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Yes, making those who have the white garments, the Bride. But you can't present me the Bride, can you? Because in your view, there isn't one there. You think these are just guests, even tho they have the wedding garments. Your wedding has no Bride in it, only guests. Your Bride, which is Israel after the flesh is outside because they have rejected the invitation. These are two major points you are yet to adress.

The Bride is ALREADY there waiting for the groom, see your own quote of Rev. 19:7-8.

Yes, and you think this Bride is only Israel after the flesh for some reason, even tho I already showed you the verses you had to ignore.

Modern day Israel is not ancient Israel in the bible. They were scattered around the world. Anyone around the world could be a descendant of the ten lost tribes.

This verse actually proves the Virgins who were Ready, are his Wife:

Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

Matthew 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

-This is yet another clear connection. His Wife is ready, the Wise Virgins are Ready. The Wise Virgins are His Wife.

Again, the Bride is already at wedding feast; those ten virgins are the other hand are waiting at the city gate for the groom. Those virgins' only job is to lead the groom to the wedding at night.

Do you think He marries the City or the People living in the City? I don't think you can marry buildings and walls

Yet another verse that proves New Jerusalem is made out of all nations, so if New Jerusalem is the Bride, then the Bride is from all nations:

Revelation 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

Nations are walking IN it down the golden streets (Rev. 21:24), nobody's a brick or a wall. Nice try.

 

[DanielLL]

The Bride is ALREADY there

I know, you are the one who believes the Bride is Israel after the flesh, not me. Israel after the flesh is not "already there", they never came in, they are outside because they have rejected the invitation:

Matthew 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

Israel after the flesh never even came to the wedding, let alone be the Bride. The Bride is anyone who accepts the invitation and has robes of righteousness.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

I know, you are the one who believes the Bride is Israel after the flesh, not me. Israel after the flesh is not "already there", they never came in, they are outside because they have rejected the invitation:

Matthew 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

Israel after the flesh never even came to the wedding, let alone be the Bride. The Bride is anyone who accepts the invitation and has robes of righteousness.

God will bring them back. It’s already in progress. What you’ve said is just antisemitic replacement theology.

 

[DanielLL]

God will bring them back. It’s already in progress. What you’ve said is just antisemitic replacement theology.

They missed the wedding, "they would not come"; "they were not worthy":

Matthew 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

Only those who accept Christ and have robes of righeousness are accepted, out of every nation. "There is no respect of persons, with God."

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

They missed the wedding, "they would not come"; "they were not worthy":

Matthew 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

Only those who accept Christ and have robes of righeousness are accepted, out of every nation. "There is no respect of persons, with God."

They won’t miss the wedding at the end times. They rejected Yeshua then, they are embracing Him now. On the contrary, the so called Christendom has collapsed in Europe and Western America, many churches have either gone woke or out of business.

 

[DanielLL]

They rejected Yeshua then, they are embracing Him now.

The wedding already happened. There is no second wedding.