Gods Standard of Righteousness

[peachyking]

His agreement with sound doctrine indicates to me that he is mature as a believer.

People living sinful lifestyles generally do not agree with what I tend to preach.

If you commit sin you live a sinful lifestyle. And anyone can agree with you
with their lips but in their heart believe just the opposite.
I am sure that has happened to you many times and you just did not know it.
I know it has happened to me. Therefore is why I watch what they do not what they say.

 

[Blik]

Most see the Law as a bad thing, not understanding "our new relationship to the Law."
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If we look to every single scripture telling us about the law, we find the law is many things. The law does many things for us. It leads us to Christ, it is a blessed guide for us, it explains what curses us if we disobey---we are to know all these things about the law. Some people get stuck in only one or two truths about the law, saying their limited view is the entire story.

We are to allow all these differences in understanding when we follow scripture. Colossians 3:13 Make allowance for each other’s faults, and forgive anyone who offends you. Remember, the Lord forgave you, so you must forgive others.

 

[justbyfaith]

If you commit sin you live a sinful lifestyle. And anyone can agree with you
with their lips but in their heart believe just the opposite.
I am sure that has happened to you many times and you just did not know it.
I know it has happened to me. Therefore is why I watch what they do not what they say.

I know that when someone is living a sinful lifestyle, my preaching "pricks them to the heart" (Acts 2:37) and they are inclined to publicly disagree with what I am saying..

 

[peachyking]

I know that when someone is living a sinful lifestyle, my preaching "pricks them to the heart" (Acts 2:37) and they are inclined to publicly disagree with what I am saying..

I know I can take you to any downtown major city and you can preach all day
and never prick any of them sinners in their heart. They will ignore you and think you are a idiot.
Or even curse you and give you the finger.

Do you believe these things you say to me?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You are coming so much closer to explaining how God thinks of the law, but I think the ten commandments, if we see them in truth, are still active, they are to be looked at as a blessed guides not instruments of death.

Scripture tells us this is the way it is. When the law was written on our hearts the law was not changed. It was the same law the ten commandments gave, delivered to our hearts--or in other words given with the love that the commandments were based on except in stone that distorted them.

Christ explained the difference in the sermon on the mount--Christ told of the law in stone. Christ did not say that law was cancelled, Christ explained that law as it was in our hearts as the actual law.

The ten commands are atill
Valid
bearing false witness is still a crime
The Ten Commandments do nit guide you or show you how to live. They convict and judge you as guilty that’s why they are called the ministry of death

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don't think he's following the Law, e-g. I think he is discussing in detail the title of his thread, "our new relationship with the Law."

That relationship is in Christ being that the Law was kept through Him.

You are either blind to what he is saying because he is your friend or have not been here long enough to listen to him
he has been preaching law since the first day he got here. In ever thread he opens or participates in. This thread was just the last straw. He will
Never preach law to me again

 

[eternally-gratefull]

This is the exact reason the Law should be discussed! I know everyone gets tired of it, I know I do.

Paul told us that we establish the Law, this is because of Christ fulfilling the Law and is fulfilled in us by faith, not by our own works.

Even being saved fallen man can't keep the Law, but by faith in Christ who did keep the Law, we are seen as perfect Law-keepers in His sight.

This should be discussed, it will help folks understand where the believer stands with the Law, imo.

When you discuss the law and tell people they need to follow it like many do
you are bring legalistic thinking into the church and I have seen many a good people Fall away because they can’t live up to the standard
if we want to talk about law let’s go to the books if the law and study then let’s not tell people how they have to obey a law they can never obey to begin with
again….
Gods standard is 1,000,000 feet not the 59 feet so many want to claim
By watering down the law saying we can literally keep it and making that the only standard

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The Law has not been properly taught in the ranks of the churches, JBF.

Most see the Law as a bad thing, not understanding "our new relationship to the Law."

They cannot see that the Law was destined to be fulfilled by Christ, therefore they cannot understand the full meaning of the New Covenant that Christ gave His life to activate.

I believe the opposite

I believe must do understand what you said here. Sadly I believe must do not understand that the law was not made for the righteous (the believer) but the unrighteous (non believer). And like the Jews in Paul’s day want to try to insist the law to Christianity where it does nit belong

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I am not a friend to an unbeliever.

Your supposed to be a light to them to draw them to Christ. However you are new here. Yet you judge one as if you know them personally. Maybe try to get to know them first and love them before you judge then

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Again, as I stated to you in another thread:
go look in a mirror as you say this.

As I read your post in multiple threads, I see no fruit.

All I have seen is him judge everyone including the apostles.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If you want to see any fruit you have to sow it for you reap what you sow.
I think that is what Jesus said. Yes that is what he said...And you can always tell by the fruit they reap
from what they have sown. Therefore you are known by your fruit.
You are always trying to get a free ride.
No free ride for you from me.

Well so far all you have sown is nothing
so as she said look in the mirror

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If you commit sin you live a sinful lifestyle. And anyone can agree with you
with their lips but in their heart believe just the opposite.
I am sure that has happened to you many times and you just did not know it.
I know it has happened to me. Therefore is why I watch what they do not what they say.

How do you watch what people do when all you can see is what they say?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If we look to every single scripture telling us about the law, we find the law is many things. The law does many things for us. It leads us to Christ, it is a blessed guide for us, it explains what curses us if we disobey---we are to know all these things about the law. Some people get stuck in only one or two truths about the law, saying their limited view is the entire story.

We are to allow all these differences in understanding when we follow scripture. Colossians 3:13 Make allowance for each other’s faults, and forgive anyone who offends you. Remember, the Lord forgave you, so you must forgive others.

The law has one purpose
to lead People to Christ
take it outside that purpose and you destroy it
that’s what the Jews did and sadly what so Many in the church are doing
the law is a tool when it is used outside its intended purpose like any tool you break it and it loses its effectiveness and is broken
Only when it is used in its intended purpose is it powerful and perfect to do what it was designed to do

 

[walknlight]

Hey!

The law has one purpose
to lead People to Christ
take it outside that purpose and you destroy it
that’s what the Jews did and sadly what so Many in the church are doing
the law is a tool when it is used outside its intended purpose like any tool you break it and it loses its effectiveness and is broken
Only when it is used in its intended purpose is it powerful and perfect to do what it was designed to do

"For whoever observes the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. "

Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

1Tim 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
1Tim 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
1Tim 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
1Tim 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
1Tim 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1Tim 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

God Bless!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Hey!


"For whoever observes the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. "

Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

1Tim 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
1Tim 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
1Tim 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
1Tim 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
1Tim 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1Tim 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

God Bless!

Amen! And thank you!

 

[walknlight]

Hi again!

Amen! And thank you!

Not anything in and of myself,
Give Yahweh the glory, praise His name!
Im just a servant, tool, at most.......

have a blessed day!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Hi again!

Not anything in and of myself,
Give Yahweh the glory, praise His name!
Im just a servant, tool, at most.......

have a blessed day!

You too my friend

 

[Grandpa]

Yes, the law shows us when we violate love and shows people who are not born again that they are not born again because of their lack of love.

The context of 2 Corinthians 3:7 (2 Corinthians 3:3) tells us that in the born again believer, the word is written in fleshy tables of the heart.

For the unbeliever, it is merely on stone tablets because it is external to the unbeliever.

The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus is this: that if we walk according to the Spirit rather than the flesh, the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

If the law of sin and death were the ten commandments, then we would be walking in sin and death if we simply love one another.
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Are you just making this up as you go along???

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

If you haven't been set free from the law of sin and death, the 10 commandments, then you haven't been shown the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus.

If you are not dead to the 10 commandments then you are not alive to God.

As a CHRISTIAN.


For anyone who has not come to Christ then the 10 commandments still stand.


It is pretty easy to see who is who here.

 

[Blik]

The ten commands are atill
Valid
bearing false witness is still a crime
The Ten Commandments do nit guide you or show you how to live. They convict and judge you as guilty that’s why they are called the ministry of death

We agree on so many things. We both think the ten commandments are valid.

The ten commandments can be used in different ways--you believe in not using them as a guidance to following Christ, but listen only to what we are told to do. Others are helped by the ten commandments, they use them to show what not to do.

 

[Blik]

Are you just making this up as you go along???

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

If you haven't been set free from the law of sin and death, the 10 commandments, then you haven't been shown the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus.

If you are not dead to the 10 commandments then you are not alive to God.

As a CHRISTIAN.


For anyone who has not come to Christ then the 10 commandments still stand.


It is pretty easy to see who is who here.

Grandpa, because the law of sin and death does not condemn you to death, you are set free from that death, is no reason for you to scold the Lord for telling you what would condemn you to death.

The Lord created you, you belong to the Lord the Lord does not belong to you. Listen to the Lord, don't tell Him what to do.