Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

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Magenta

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How is it a logical fallacy? Do you think God would not preserve his word? The answer I always give is just because there are many corrupt manuscripts doesn't mean there isn't a 100% accurate set of manuscripts, we're just not sure which ones they are.
Too funny. Are you a KJ-onlyist?
 

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Nope. You claimed I had not given any Scripture to back up what I was saying AFTER I had said that.

Such a liar you are! Then you tried to claim it had nothing to do with the RCC when it did. More lies from you.

But really that was just another logical fallacy from you, any ways. You and your red herrings! Satan must be so proud of you.
How does this prove your argument against RCC? I can use this to argue against you and your rebellion against authority, this doesn't help your argument at all.


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Jesus Christ is the Truth, and the way to the Father
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John 10:27-28
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^ Examples of me quoting Scripture... proving you a liar once again.
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everyone knows there is a God. They simply suppress the Truth.

And they are without excuse.
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You want to say atheists are good people when God calls them fools.
 

Magenta

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How does this prove your argument against RCC? I can use this to argue against you and your rebellion against authority, this doesn't help your argument at all.
Whether you agree with the Scripture or not is beside the point.

You claimed I gave no Scripture. I gave words straight out of Jesus' mouth.

That makes you a liar. Just admit you were wrong. No? Didn't think so!

Liars don't like being wrong and even worse, hate admitting it.
 

Magenta

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I'm tired of you, I've answered your questions, and you rarely answered mine. Leave me alone.
You're tired of defending your lies. Try being honest for a change. It will refresh you!

LOL @ answering my questions.

More like you have given excuses, logical fallacies, and run-arounds trying to cover up your lies and avoid the point.
 

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Whether you agree with the Scripture or not is beside the point.

You claimed I gave no Scripture. I gave words straight out of Jesus' mouth.

That makes you a liar. Just admit you were wrong. No? Didn't think so!

Liars don't like being wrong and even worse, hate admitting it.
Wrong! I claimed you gave no scripture to back up your false opinion. Copy and pasting random bible verses do not help your case.
 
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Muhammad literally admitted that his kingdom would bring forth the beast from the earth in Quran 27:82. There is also hadith (forgot the name) that describes the mark that the beast is going to give in the same exact way as the Bible, forbidding to buy/sell etc, except the mark is a good thing in Islam and it's given to the believers.

Also, the mark of the beast in Greek looks awfully similar to Arabic for "in the name of Allah"
https://www.christianforums.com/blogs/the-path-to-666.65180/
Hey bro....
Abandoning the teachings of God
Abandoning the teachings of Allah
It's the same thing.

Whether it's Jews, Christians, or Islam, if they misunderstand the words of scripture from God, they are all the same. They are all beasts, and in biblical terms, they are wolves in sheep's clothing.

In the Bible.
Can't buy or sell, means people who can't buy the truth of God and who can't sell the truth of God
In other words, People cannot understand God's truth correctly, and God's truth cannot be properly taught.
Or,You can understand it this way,Jesus wants to sell the Bible to someone, but someone buy from Satan and thinking that is the real Bible.(I didn't refer to the Quran or Muslims here)

I hope you could understand it.
 

Magenta

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Wrong! I claimed you gave no scripture to back up your false opinion. Copy and pasting random bible verses do not help your case.
That's not what you said. And the verse was not random. This has been pointed
out to you, the liar, many times, but you keep lying about it. No surprises there.


Ho hum. Try looking into ex cathedra dogmas. It may help you understand why no protestant
should submit to the RCC, not being a Catholic, and being barred from being a Catholic.


And thank God for that!
 

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That's not what you said. And the verse was not random. This has been pointed
out to you, the liar, many times, but you keep lying about it. No surprises there.


Ho hum. Try looking into ex cathedra dogmas.
Those verses had nothing to do with the argument against RCC. Stop spamming.

You then (afterwards) posted about calling no man your father, which I already addressed.

If someone gets barred from being catholic it's not their fault, but if they rebel against authority, then it is.
 

Magenta

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Those verses had nothing to do with the argument against RCC. Stop spamming.

You then (afterwards) posted about calling no man your father, which I already addressed.
What verses? I was referring to that specific verse. Stop lying.
 

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How is it a logical fallacy? Do you think God would not preserve his word? The answer I always give is just because there are many corrupt manuscripts doesn't mean there isn't a 100% accurate set of manuscripts, we're just not sure which ones they are.
So, you don't understand that fallacy. Got it.
 

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What verses? I was referring to that specific verse. Stop lying.
Well, you posted that verse after I called you out. And guess what? You still haven't addressed my refutation of that verse using 1 Corinthians 4:15.
 

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Hey bro....
Abandoning the teachings of God
Abandoning the teachings of Allah
It's the same thing.

Whether it's Jews, Christians, or Islam, if they misunderstand the words of scripture from God, they are all the same. They are all beasts, and in biblical terms, they are wolves in sheep's clothing.

In the Bible.
Can't buy or sell, means people who can't buy the truth of God and who can't sell the truth of God
In other words, People cannot understand God's truth correctly, and God's truth cannot be properly taught.
Or,You can understand it this way,Jesus wants to sell the Bible to someone, but someone buy from Satan and thinking that is the real Bible.(I didn't refer to the Quran or Muslims here)

I hope you could understand it.
Muslims don't all worship the same God as Christians. The beast in the Bible is a bad guy, but in the Quran a good guy. The Bible says salvation is through Jesus and his divinity, Quran condemns such beliefs. Perhaps some Muslims believe deep inside and they would be saved, but these religions don't worship the same God.
 

Magenta

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You're just presupposing stuff baselessly.
Another false accusation. You really need to research this stuff before you try to bulldoze people with your lies.

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You keep repeating the same false argument about them being corrupt and dogmatic.
Another false accusation. I am talking about the ex cathedra dogmas. No Bible believer could accept them as infallible, since they have zero Biblical basis and actually go against what Scripture teaches regarding sin. Telling us we need to submit to all authority including the RCC is just plain dumb. Since we do not accept those dogmas we cannot be Catholic and should not be submitting to their self-proclaimed authority. I am sorry you have bought so fully into their lies.
 

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Another false accusation. You really need to research this stuff before you try to bulldoze people with your lies.

(1) Has anyone found secret messages in the bible? - Christian Chat Rooms & ForumsAnother false accusation. I am talking about the ex cathedra dogmas. No Bible believer could accept them as infallible, since they have zero Biblical basis and actually go against what Scripture teaches regarding sin. Telling us we need to submit to all authority including the RCC is just plain dumb.
It doesn't matter, the government doesn't even recognize the Bible and we still have to obey their authority according to Romans 13:1
 

Magenta

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It doesn't matter, the government doesn't even recognize the Bible and we still have to obey their authority according to Romans 13:1
The RCC is not the government. Why would anyone who is NOT a Catholic submit to the RCC?

We cannot be Catholics. To be a Catholic you are mandated to accept/believe the ex cathedra dogmas concerning Mary.

How many times are you going to keep repeating yourself?
LOL. Says the guy who keeps repeating himself.
 

NTNT58

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The RCC is not the government. Why would anyone who is NOT a Catholic submit to the RCC?
I already provided dozens of verses proving their authority, go back and read.

We cannot be Catholics. To be a Catholic you are mandated to accept/believe the ex cathedra dogmas concerning Mary.
Not all of their churches, some are more strict than others. Some are actually liberal because people vote with their wallets and the church listens. If more people joined and protested against heresies there wouldn't be any.
 

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