Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

[Anni]

Please forgive any rudeness from others… I remember a book that came out years ago called “The Bible Code.”

It was written by a Jewish Rabbi… I think…

I bet you would really enjoy that book, I did!

I remember this book, it was recommended by another Christian when I was learning about Christianity - late 1990s I think.
Simply put, if the letters of the Bible are placed like a word-search puzzle all sorts of prophecies are revealed - fulfilled & to come.
I was told it wasn't a means of prophecy, rather to show how mysterious God and the depth of revelation that could be attained by probing His Word this way.
Such things are not of God, lead to all sorts of confusion especially to those new to Christianity & should be avoided. The Bible contains everything we need to know about God & the purpose of our lives.
To my reckoning the Lord Jesus Christ wasn't glorified at all.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

Please forgive any rudeness from others… I remember a book that came out years ago called “The Bible Code.”

It was written by a Jewish Rabbi… I think…

I bet you would really enjoy that book, I did!

It was herey, and garbage

 

[FRB72]

I remember this book, it was recommended by another Christian when I was learning about Christianity - late 1990s I think.
Simply put, if the letters of the Bible are placed like a word-search puzzle all sorts of prophecies are revealed - fulfilled & to come.
I was told it wasn't a means of prophecy, rather to show how mysterious God and the depth of revelation that could be attained by probing His Word this way.
Such things are not of God, lead to all sorts of confusion especially to those new to Christianity & should be avoided. The Bible contains everything we need to know about God & the purpose of our lives.
To my reckoning the Lord Jesus Christ wasn't glorified at all.

I think that the idea of scouring the Bible for secret messages (like a fortune teller) rather than immersing yourself in the truth and allowing God to take you deeper is the source of the error here…

I don’t believe the author of The Bible Code was a Christian, and used the Bible more as a means of divination of events on certain dates with closely associated verses than as a means of marvelling at God’s wisdom.

If the demonic realm is more intelligent (note: not wise) than the human one, is it possible that spiritual forces could steer the unsaved or the unwise to letter skips and passages that would lead their faith astray? I certainly think so.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I don’t believe the author of The Bible Code was a Christian,

He was an atheist till the day he died.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

He was an atheist till the day he died.

It seems like y'all are talking about two different people (??) coz the author of that book was said to be "an American journalist and author" (from NY, I think), whereas the one who had brought up the particular title they mentioned (in this thread), was saying that person was a rabbi...???

I do think there are a couple of different books with similar titles. Perhaps she meant another one (not the one written by "Michael D.")??

 

[NTNT58]

Why not. Might as well. Thats what your boy is doing.
Why would God bother with errant measure of the year. He made the Universe and has set the time and times. If the Hebrews even did have such a calendar year.

So now you're arguing with history and telling God how he should've made the ancient Jews keep their calendar.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

She is absolutely a troll, and you are defending trolls. I have presented a valid argument backed by facts, and instead of debunking the facts, the trolls spew out insults and baseless statements. That is literally the definition of a troll.

if People, are [[unaware]] of the Fact, that God, gave to Moses, an Alphabet that each Letter is ""also"" a Number or Numeral Value, they, will oppose you fiercely and not be a Troll for doing so.

i don't believe that you yourself even knew about how God Structured the Alphabet with the Mathematical Numbering System.

the Hebrew and Jews have KNOWN this literally 4,000 years.

and this is ""ANOTHER"" Reason, I wonder, are there Missing Books from the Cannon that we cannot calculate a Numeric Value and then Written equivalent explaining something we should be aware of? We have ALL we need! but in a Research Process, it becomes, a Valid Question.

 

[NTNT58]

Thats all conjecture.
You made the claim so prove the claim

The proof is in the video and the links I posted, if you're too lazy to even go through them, that's on you.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Galileo, Follower of God, Mathematician, Astronomer, Scientist, said: “Mathematics is the alphabet with which God has written the universe”

When God Spoke, there's a Alphabetical and Mathematical Value it equates to.

Galileo said, Looking at the Universe, is one Perfect Example.

so His Holy Word, that we read on parchment, would be the same. and it is, we have proof since Moses.

 

[NTNT58]

And you are a rude newbie that come sweeping in thinking that you know something, insulting and accusing other long time members that have already proven who and what they are.... basically being a tool..... you should learn how to make your point kindly, then listen respectfully to responses, then respond in kind.
What is the deal with you guys (we've had more than one of you lately)...... is this parent/teacher conference week at school, or something? Frankly, I prefer it when you just play video games all day....

As I've told you before (seems like you don't read before responding) I have made my point in my original post kindly and was not rude to anyone. The responses I got was trolls telling me to shut up, insulting me and attacking using ad-hominems, instead of addressing the claim. That's what trolls do... that's what some people are on here, it doesn't matter how long you've been here, time doesn't make people wise, if they think they are wise in their own estimation, they just become old fools.

 

[ResidentAlien]

It seems like y'all are talking about two different people (??) coz the author of that book was said to be "an American journalist and author" (from NY, I think), whereas the one who had brought up the particular title they mentioned, was saying that person was a rabbi...??? I do think there are a couple of different books with similar titles. Perhaps she meant another one??

The guy who wrote The Bible Code, first published in 1997 by Simon & Schuster, Michael Alan Drosnin, was Jewish and an atheist. Maybe that's where she got rabbi.

 

[hornetguy]

Galileo, Follower of God, Mathematician, Astronomer, Scientist, said: “Mathematics is the alphabet with which God has written the universe”

When God Spoke, there's a Alphabetical and Mathematical Value it equates to.

Galileo said, Looking at the Universe, is one Perfect Example.

so His Holy Word, that we read on parchment, would be the same. and it is, we have proof since Moses.

oh, well..... if Galileo said it....
he was infallible, right?

 

[seekingthemindofChrist]

The responses I got was trolls telling me to shut up, insulting me and attacking using ad-hominems, instead of addressing the claim.

Actually, my "shut up" post was not directed towards you, but towards certain other members here.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[hornetguy]

I have made my point in my original post kindly

and you have answered any post that disagrees with you in a very snarky, tacky way, calling people names, and insulting them.

behavior like that, especially in a newcomer to a forum is incredibly bad form... you should be ashamed, but I am fairly certain you don't have that ability.

I think the jury is back.... you might not be a troll, but you are certainly a two syllable word that rhymes with it....

oh! two syllables.... two sections of the Bible.... Two sons of Adam... there MUST be a prophecy in there somewhere....

 

[NTNT58]

Please forgive any rudeness from others… I remember a book that came out years ago called “The Bible Code.”

It was written by a Jewish Rabbi… I think…

I bet you would really enjoy that book, I did!

I've read that it's been debunked. He uses a somewhat random method called equidistant letter sequencing which could also be used to look up any message you want, including things that are unbiblical. I'm still waiting for someone to debunk the videos and links I posted.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

oh, well..... if Galileo said it....
he was infallible, right?

No, but why is the Number 6 or 666 specifically man or Satan and the numeral value of 7 or 777 is God?

we are even COMMANDED "not" to take the number 666, From GOD, Himself.

there's all Codes like this in the Bible. God, just uncovered some we are more aware of 1,3,6,7,10

1 God
3 is everywhere
6 man
666 man/Satan
7 Perfection/God
777 God
10 Commandments

and these are blatant Codes we know.

work 6 days rest 1.
7 days = 1 week
24 hours
365 days
6,000 years + 1,000 year Mill Reign

it's all Code

 

[seekingthemindofChrist]

I think the jury is back.... you might not be a troll, but you are certainly a two syllable word that rhymes with it....

 

[NTNT58]

if People, are [[unaware]] of the Fact, that God, gave to Moses, an Alphabet that each Letter is ""also"" a Number or Numeral Value, they, will oppose you fiercely and not be a Troll for doing so.

i don't believe that you yourself even knew about how God Structured the Alphabet with the Mathematical Numbering System.

the Hebrew and Jews have KNOWN this literally 4,000 years.

and this is ""ANOTHER"" Reason, I wonder, are there Missing Books from the Cannon that we cannot calculate a Numeric Value and then Written equivalent explaining something we should be aware of? We have ALL we need! but in a Research Process, it becomes, a Valid Question.

You're right, the term in those cases would be "ignorant", because trolls are deliberate in their attacks, not misinformed. However, you are talking about Hebrew Gematria, which is something I never even mentioned. The links and videos I posted are something completely different.

But also, if you look through the messages you will actually see trolls leaving spam messages. So yes there are actual trolls on here.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

They arent hidden. They are spelled right out.

Do you recall the video (or videos) by some, who are pointing out how the "10 names [meanings] in Genesis 5" spell out a sentence?

That's something that, when one just does a cursory read-through, one would miss. There's a similar one in (I think) 1Chron25. And some point out a similar thing for the listing of the 12 tribes named in Rev7 (and their distinct order listed there).

If you've heard those kinds of presentations, what do you think of them? Just wondering.



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Here's a message from 2010 by a pastor named Steve Hadley, who (in this 1-hr msg) goes over several different things like this, which message he has titled "Your Amazing Bible" [2010]...
...it starts around the 5:30-min mark with (1) the Gen 5 listing of 10 names and their meanings...;
then he covers (2) Isaiah 53 (along a different track);
then he does speak briefly about (3) the word "Torah" (found in Gen. Exo. Numb. Deut.--here he mentions Grant Jeffrey's book in connection with some rabbi I think he said--this MAY be who you're confusing the other guy, M.D., with???);
then he goes into (4) "Types / Models" (covering Gen24 and 22 and Abraham & Isaac)...;
But the part I'd like ppl to perhaps listen to (in view of this thread subject) starts at about the 46:30-min mark which he calls (5) "A Very Difficult Assignment" (Matt1:1-11's genealogy), and at the 51:34-min mark states, regarding this list in Matt1, "in the original Greek" (not in the English).
Covering things that one would not notice upon reading the passage:

-- Your Amazing Bible 2010 | Harvest Family Fellowship (harvestreno.org) (esp. starting at the 46:30-min mark--approx 14 mins worth)



Anyone care to comment on those last "14 mins" of this vid?? I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. = )

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

1 day = 1,000 years
4 was a special one for Lazarus.
God said He is ALPHA meaning FIRST [so a word describing a Numeral Value and the Letters carry Numeral Values] and the OMEGA meaning Last.

Code, is all over the Bible.

613 Laws

the specific Holidays we Celebrate/Jewish