Headcoverings: Biblical or Not?

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Is wearing head covering biblical? Many Christians not just Mennonites and simple folk wear them. I have been struggling with the passage in scripture. I have been told differing opinions. When a woman does wear a covering is it for God or Man or Both?
1Co 11:2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1Co 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

1Co 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
1Co 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

The head covering is talking about hair.

A man should have short hair because he is in the image of God,and nature teaches that it is a shame for a man to have long hair.Jesus came in the image of God so He would of had short hair.

Samson had long hair,but that was Old Testament,and after Adam and Eve sinned nobody was in the image of God until Christ came,for to be in the image of God is to have an innocent nature in flesh.

A woman should have long hair,and if she does not have long hair then it is the same as if she is shaven.

God wants a distinction between a man and a woman,and if a man has long hair,and a woman has short hair,then they are putting them in the place of the opposite sex.

1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
1Pe 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

But there are many people that do not want to be told how to wear their hair,or do not tell them they cannot put on make up,and jewelry,but it is to be the inner man we show by the Spirit,not the outer appearance.

The Bible says that a man should have short hair for he is in the image of God,so Jesus would of had short hair,so that should settle it that a man should have short hair unless he does not want to be in the image of God.

And a woman should have long hair because of the angels,in which people will have a higher position in heaven than that of the angels,and it shows her authority above the angels,and if she cuts her hair then it is the same as if she is shaven,and puts herself in the place of a man.

I know many will not buy it for they like to have their hair the way they want,and wear jewelry,and put on make up,and tattoos,but what other way do you translate it.

Some will say they are legalists,and wrong,but how do you translate it when it is plain and simple.

A lot of people like to ignore scriptures even if they point out a certain truth they do not like,but will justify it to fit what they want to believe.

Does it make sense for a man and a woman to be showing off their outer self,or by showing the inner man by the Spirit.

That is what is important to God.

It is hard to get along with people who claim Christ today because so much of them do not like to hear things a certain way,but have the attitude do not tell us how to have our hair,and what to wear,and to abstain from make up,and jewelry,and we cannot abstain from sin,but we can by the Spirit if we do not want sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God,which the Bible says God is not mocked for whatever a person sows that shall they reap,and for the saints to not be deceived by that,and the prosperity Gospel,which Paul says withdraw yourself from them,having food,and clothing,be content.
 

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I'm not trying to be a troll here but I find it kind of strange how Paul wrote all these letters about how Christians are to conduct themselves but he never met Jesus.
I think Paul was just expressing his personal opinions and they should not be taken as Doctrine
Paul may never have met Jesus during his ministry, but he met Jesus in a wonderful and special way at his conversion. During Christ's ministry Paul was imprisoning Christians and maybe worse and will have heard their testimonies. After his conversion he worked with and knew the apostles and will have learnt from them the teaching of Jesus, perhaps more than we have recorded in the Bible, where we learn there are not enough books in all the world to tell of all he did and said.
 

posthuman

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Okay so we had a brief encounter with Jesus.
The deciples hung out with Jesus everyday so I would be more interested in what they have to say
let's see if we can find a letter they wrote to the church in Corinth then :)



btw
But Barnabas took hold of him and brought him to the apostles and described to them how he had seen the Lord on the road, and that He had talked to him, and how at Damascus he had spoken out boldly in the name of Jesus.
(Acts 9:27)​

there's Barnabas attesting that Saul/Paul met Christ - when the other apostles were hesitant to accept him
 

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Seriously?

So should YOU wear a hat to church?

It really doesn't matter which way you answer that. What "seriously" matters is if we're judging what we should do, not what everyone else should do because we think it.

Serious enough?
I'm male and so do not wear a hat, I also feel it would cause offence and rightly so if I did. That being the case, if I were female then I would, but either way, 2000 and more years after Jesus and the fragmentation of the church with its many cults, I do think that maybe we can learn from their example.
 

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The absence of a head covering on a woman does not mean to us what it did then. For that reason it's become an obsolete command. Like the law of the oxen. Not very many of us have oxen treading out the grain to make the literal command to not muzzle the oxen while they tread out the grain applicable to us today.

When not wearing a head covering becomes a sign of a woman's rebellion against authority again, that's when the woman will be required to start wearing them again.
But if we did have oxen?

We still have heads. Your argument is a silly one.
 

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Okay so we had a brief encounter with Jesus.
The deciples hung out with Jesus everyday so I would be more interested in what they have to say
[FONT=&quot]But if anyone wants to argue about this, all I can say is that we never teach anything else than this—that a woman should wear a covering when prophesying or praying publicly in the church, and all the churches feel the same way about it. (1 Cor 11:16)[/FONT]
 

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Okay so we had a brief encounter with Jesus.
Not just a brief encounter, but many extended encounters (if you will consult his epistles as suggested)
The deciples hung out with Jesus everyday so I would be more interested in what they have to say
Then obviously you would be interested in what Peter -- the leader of the disciples who hung out with Jesus -- had to say about Paul (2 Peter 3:15,16):

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
 

Prov910

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This is only tangentially related to the thread: I have a small collection of fedoras and other hats. I got my son a couple fancy little hats too when he was four years old, like the one below in the upper left. We each wear our fancy hats to church. (Not in church--just to and from.) My son *always* gets compliments for his little hat. But I never do. I am jealous. That is all. lol :)

 
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Well since the 20th century brought female rebellion against authority (along with Feminism which was a total rejection of everything taught in the Bible) all the more reason for Christian women under submission to God and Christ as well as their husbands (and even if single) to wear head coverings during worship.

Also since Paul was writing by Divine inspiration, this injunction is as valid and spiritual as his teaching on the submission of women and the role of women within the church and the home. When Paul's epistles address issues, they are of universal application and do not know limits of time or culture. He was taught directly by the Lord, and these are really the Lord's instructions. So discarding head coverings (or teaching others to do so) is really an act of rebellion.
Nobody will get it if women start wearing head coverings again.

It will be a few more years, but getting tattoos will no longer be a sign of rebellion in the church either. I mean it literally will not be because of rebellion that people will get tattoos. The real reason for tattoos in Western culture will be completely lost and so it will become a moot point, like head coverings.
 

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Nobody will get it if women start wearing head coverings again.

It will be a few more years, but getting tattoos will no longer be a sign of rebellion in the church either. I mean it literally will not be because of rebellion that people will get tattoos. The real reason for tattoos in Western culture will be completely lost and so it will become a moot point, like head coverings.
Separate yourself from worldly things and thoughts.
 

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Is wearing head covering biblical? Many Christians not just Mennonites and simple folk wear them. I have been struggling with the passage in scripture. I have been told differing opinions. When a woman does wear a covering is it for God or Man or Both?
Seems to me that a woman that wears a hair covering is doing it to conform a standard that she was taught. I see nothing at all biblical about covering one's hair.
 

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Paul may never have met Jesus during his ministry, but he met Jesus in a wonderful and special way at his conversion. During Christ's ministry Paul was imprisoning Christians and maybe worse and will have heard their testimonies. After his conversion he worked with and knew the apostles and will have learnt from them the teaching of Jesus, perhaps more than we have recorded in the Bible, where we learn there are not enough books in all the world to tell of all he did and said.
Paul met Jesus on the road to Damascus where he finally saw the light.
 
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it has nothing to do with a fashion statement of the day or Paul's personal attitude of woman .

Its a ceremonial law that governs ceremonies and not a moral law that governs morals. Therefore not something we can judge one another in respect to . It is used in the similar way of the 70 foot veil holy of hollies that was torn and replaced by this new ordinance. The veiling of the hidden glory will be fulfilled in the new heaven and earth when at the consummation of the wedding it will be lifted . There are denominations that still honor it today .
 

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it has nothing to do with a fashion statement of the day or Paul's personal attitude of woman .

Its a ceremonial law that governs ceremonies and not a moral law that governs morals. Therefore not something we can judge one another in respect to . It is used in the similar way of the 70 foot veil holy of hollies that was torn and replaced by this new ordinance. The veiling of the hidden glory will be fulfilled in the new heaven and earth when at the consummation of the wedding it will be lifted . There are denominations that still honor it today .
Assuming you are right, and I don't see any scriptures that say that, the coming of the Groom for his Bride hasn't happened yet, and until it does, the veil, as in the Holy of Holies, remains.
 
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