You have put only my comments, not the comments of Atwood, to whom I was responding. To me, that doesn't seem fair. I was talking about the visible church in a context. Atwood believes that the church is invisible (probably this is an excuse for the fact that there are over 50.000 christian denominations) and doesn't agree that I say "the Eastern Orthodox Church". In part, I agree with him (but not the way he, or you, would like to) because the church is One, Holy, Universal/Catholic and Apostolic (quote from the Nicene Creed), but I believe this applies to my church. Atwood asked and I answered. I didn't force my beliefs on him.