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You are so presumptuous. I never said I denied Christ as God or didn't worship him. I told you I worshiped according to scriptural example. You added emphasis and made up your own mind about me, as you have done with entire congregations.
I'm sorry. I've heard the mormons claim the same things as you (they pray to the Father in Jesus name; they believe Christ is God etc.) and it didn't bother me. Not until I asked them if they ever pray to Christ and worship Him and they said "Never".

 
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Nothing I quoted you on was out of context.
You have put only my comments, not the comments of Atwood, to whom I was responding. To me, that doesn't seem fair. I was talking about the visible church in a context. Atwood believes that the church is invisible (probably this is an excuse for the fact that there are over 50.000 christian denominations) and doesn't agree that I say "the Eastern Orthodox Church". In part, I agree with him (but not the way he, or you, would like to) because the church is One, Holy, Universal/Catholic and Apostolic (quote from the Nicene Creed), but I believe this applies to my church. Atwood asked and I answered. I didn't force my beliefs on him.
 

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You have put only my comments, not the comments of Atwood, to whom I was responding. To me, that doesn't seem fair. I was talking about the visible church in a context. Atwood believes that the church is invisible (probably this is an excuse for the fact that there are over 50.000 christian denominations) and doesn't agree that I say "the Eastern Orthodox Church". In part, I agree with him (but not the way he, or you, would like to) because the church is One, Holy, Universal/Catholic and Apostolic (quote from the Nicene Creed), but I believe this applies to my church. Atwood asked and I answered. I didn't force my beliefs on him.
If the Church universal means all those who have been born again/regenerated and thus are like minded concerning the Gospel, is not the Church found in many denominations including Rome and the East?