How Should Christians Vote?

[Ronja]

You're not an American but you clearly follow the Left wing bias reporting of the MSM. (Main Stream Media)
In point of fact what you call separating children from their parents is a matter of law!
In America we do not put vulnerable children into an adult jail system where they'll be at risk to the predators there. We separate children from parents under arrest and in the company of their minor children in the case of any legal infraction wherein said parent is taken into custody by authorities. And this for the child's personal safety.

Claiming that you don't care the Democrats made the cages but Trump made it worse is just dodging the responsibility you believe where the outrage over such policies should fall and because you're predisposed to bias in favor of the Democratic party. Even though you don't live here, and have no idea of the Democratic party history.

I think you're raging against Trump and pleading the Democratic party side because you are pleased to instigate what you believe is upset.
Where did Jesus do that in the scriptures?
Where did Jesus say the law of man doesn't matter if someone is a foreigner invading a nation?
That scripture you quoted is not in context with illegal trespass into this nation. And in point of fact, if you read the scriptures you'll find that God destroyed foreign people whom he deemed a threat to his chosen Israel.

I so tire of foreigners who don't live in America casting aspersions and vitriol against our policies as pertain to, in this case illegal entry and occupation of our country, when they should relegate themselves to what their own country is doing in that regard. And asking them to tolerate while doing it.
If you don't like that America implements policies to stop illegal entry into our country, because entry into any country is not a right but a privilege, it is a good thing you don't live here and have to tolerate what unfolds as illegals multiply daily through illegal entry and through procreation while taking advantage of our so desperately needed amending, 14th amendment.


BTW, interesting Agaric mushroom in your profile pic.

Ah, I see. So when the scripture says: “And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’” It means other strangers and brothers, not the ones you don’t feel comfortable with?
Jesus said to go out and make all people his disciples. That is not an easy thing to do if you steal their kids and sets them in prison.
How about doing like they have in other countries, give the immigrants and their kids proper housing till they have been processed?
The thing with America is that it brings out a lot of influence. So even if I people living in other countries cannot vote, this election is very important. As I have been saying, since Trump took the office the relationship with other countries have become way worse and this is not a good sign. Have whatever opinion about this you want but your election effects us all.

Mushroom? I don’t have a profile pic XD. You mean someone else?

 

[Runningman]

Can a Christian vote for the Democrat Party who support abortions, homosexual marriages, and socialism? Many televangelists Pastors ask the question, "How can you call yourself a Christian and vote Democrat"?

Depending on the variety of issues at hand, can a Christian vote for different parties or candidates?

If you are talking about American politics and the upcoming presidential election then the best option a Christian to vote for is for Trump. I base that decision off how closely Trump aligns with Christian ideals than his opponents do.

 

[tourist]

Please list every example that sustains your observations of my President. Thank you.

MAGA

 

[hornetguy]

How about doing like they have in other countries, give the immigrants and their kids proper housing till they have been processed?

Oh, you mean like Mexico does?
This is an excerpt from the National Review magazine about Mexican practices regarding immigration...both legal and extra-legal.

"If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam, and prove they can provide their own health care.

‐ Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal-alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim)."

 

[Reborn]

Most politicians lie, and Trump does it more than most.

Most politicians lie-true.
“Trump does it the most” -not even close to the truth.
Easily proven.

This isn’t a post defending of knocking Trump. Let’s just get to truth of that statement. Treating him (or any politician) like a fellow human being with decency and a fair opinion based on facts, with some compassion and love. (even tho it can be hard at times)

Let‘s rule out MSM or any written articles (All heavily biased, mostly opinionated pieces) claiming Trump is “this” or “that”. All claiming “unnamed sources” as their insiders, or “someone who wished to remain anonymous “ 6 corps run 90% of all news. Easily proven. They all admitted to hating Trump so we can’t depend on fair reporting when they can’t even hide their disgust for him.
(Their “proof” —Which translates to “we made it up, and you’re gonna have to trust us on these accusations about Trump, we need not provide actual proof)

Say, We can use good ol’ videos, YouTube clips, where we can see the words coming out of the politicians/Trumps mouth with our own eyes?.

Anyone, please provide us videos/clips of “Trump lying” [or any “topic” they claim he’s doing)
On the flip side, l can provide many, many clips of other politicians being caught, lying, deceiving, Contradicting themselves, or saying racist things...on video.

That’s how bad it is. 😢
Out in the open for all to see, ...their lies and deception...false accusations with Trump ..why? cause YouTube stop caring to hide those clips, that’s how stupid they think the public is. They know no one cares to actually seek out the truth before they make statements about a any popular hated public target. The MSM tells people how to feel and the people say and do it. It’s that’s simple.

Now on the Trump hating side...Can anyone provide a single video of him saying something racist, or flat out lying about an issue (some of his statements/planned actions may have been unable to accomplish or even sabatoged...but a video where he is being flat out, no doubt about it lying/ being deceiving?).

Just saying. A fair look at both sides.
You will have dig deep....
I will wait. We all have been waiting for anyone, someone , anywhere to actually provide proof with anything they claim Trump is doing with deceitful intentions.

Its unreal.

 

[tourist]

If you are talking about American politics and the upcoming presidential election then the best option a Christian to vote for is for Trump. I base that decision off how closely Trump aligns with Christian ideals than his opponents do.

That's my sense as well. Both Biden and Harris are very much in favor of abortion right up to the point that the baby is about to be born. I will never vote for anyone that is pro-death regardless of their political affiliation.

 

[Runningman]

That's my sense as well. Both Biden and Harris are very much in favor of abortion right up to the point that the baby is about to be born. I will never vote for anyone that is pro-death regardless of their political affiliation.

People who voted Democrat probably don't realize they are voting for pro-death champions. They won't represent themselves as explicitly pro-death, but rather as pro-choice giving deference to the belief it is a woman's choice because it is her body - ignoring the fact that a fetus is an entirely separate human being and not an integral part of a woman's body.

It's particularly chilling how far they have gone to redefine what a human being is based on an ever increasing number of months. Now a baby isn't a human as long as he/she is in the mother's womb.

It's glaringly obvious the Democrat party is agenda-driven by the single scope issue of infanticide because their policies don't remain consistent when held up to scrutiny. For example, a pregnant woman who dies is considered two deaths for legal purposes, but for abortion purposes the infant isn't even a human.

It should alarm even Democrat loyalists what their party leaders are into.

 

[tourist]

People who voted Democrat probably don't realize they are voting for pro-death champions. They won't represent themselves as explicitly pro-death, but rather as pro-choice giving deference to the belief it is a woman's choice because it is her body - ignoring the fact that a fetus is an entirely separate human being and not an integral part of a woman's body.

It's particularly chilling how far they have gone to redefine what a human being is based on an ever increasing number of months. Now a baby isn't a human as long as he/she is in the mother's womb.

It's glaringly obvious the Democrat party is agenda-driven by the single scope issue of infanticide because their policies don't remain consistent when held up to scrutiny. For example, a pregnant woman who dies is considered two deaths for legal purposes, but for abortion purposes the infant isn't even a human.

It should alarm even Democrat loyalists what their party leaders are into.

I read somewhere that 25% of Democrats are pro-life but their voice has been muted. Hopefully, they will go with the pro-life candidate.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

The President’s character is not an issue for his base. With a death toll more than 170,000 Americans dead from Covid-19 and a battered economy of more than 10% unemployment, President Trump election will be more on motivation than persuasion.

One of the things that President Trump is talking about is volence in the streets which is Joe Biden’s America. However, we are in Donald’s Trump America right now. So how do you sell that vision under someone else’s leadership when it is happening under your leadership? All happening under his watch.

Many of the things he says are hypocritical things such as mail-in voting, “the only way they are going to win is with a rigged election.” While at the same time the Republican Conservative Party are sending mail-in ballots to people homes who love ones are dead. Either this is bad management or they are trying to get someone to vote fraudulently.

 

[Ronja]

Oh, you mean like Mexico does?
This is an excerpt from the National Review magazine about Mexican practices regarding immigration...both legal and extra-legal.

"If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam, and prove they can provide their own health care.

‐ Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal-alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim)."

Riiiight... but we are not talking about Mexico here, are we? We are talking about America. You don’t have the power to change things in Mexico, but you have a vote in the US.
And even if Trump has made this a very normal thing during there last years, just because someone else is doing wrong it doesn’t mean that your wrong actions are more okay!
What I did was look to other countries for a better solution. But instead of being inspired you went on to blame countries that doesn’t do it right for not doing it right. Okay? So you don’t think America should be a good example to the world? As long as you are not the worst it’s ok? I thought America was the greatest country in the world...

 

[Ronja]

People who voted Democrat probably don't realize they are voting for pro-death champions. They won't represent themselves as explicitly pro-death, but rather as pro-choice giving deference to the belief it is a woman's choice because it is her body - ignoring the fact that a fetus is an entirely separate human being and not an integral part of a woman's body.

It's particularly chilling how far they have gone to redefine what a human being is based on an ever increasing number of months. Now a baby isn't a human as long as he/she is in the mother's womb.

It's glaringly obvious the Democrat party is agenda-driven by the single scope issue of infanticide because their policies don't remain consistent when held up to scrutiny. For example, a pregnant woman who dies is considered two deaths for legal purposes, but for abortion purposes the infant isn't even a human.

It should alarm even Democrat loyalists what their party leaders are into.

Have you or will you adopt in your future/life?
In my opinion, only people who are willing to come up with a good solution to abortion is welcome to try to stop it.

 

[Fundamental]

Have you or will you adopt in your future/life?
In my opinion, only people who are willing to come up with a good solution to abortion is welcome to try to stop it.

Teach people how to have sex responsibily? Why do responsible people that don’t want to get pregnat not get pregnant? Even though they have sex? Because they use their head and not their gut.

 

[Fundamental]

Ah, I see. So when the scripture says: “And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’” It means other strangers and brothers, not the ones you don’t feel comfortable with?
Jesus said to go out and make all people his disciples. That is not an easy thing to do if you steal their kids and sets them in prison.
How about doing like they have in other countries, give the immigrants and their kids proper housing till they have been processed?
The thing with America is that it brings out a lot of influence. So even if I people living in other countries cannot vote, this election is very important. As I have been saying, since Trump took the office the relationship with other countries have become way worse and this is not a good sign. Have whatever opinion about this you want but your election effects us all.

Mushroom? I don’t have a profile pic XD. You mean someone else?

Which countries are you refering to giving migrants housing? Germany? Have you seen the following crime wave when Germany opened Europe’s borders in 2015? Even people that took refugees in their home got beheaded and murdered. Children raped and all our recreational parks are now no go zones for our children if we want to them to remain safe.

Why are most migrants exclusively men leaving women and children behiind? They even funded human trafficking on boats and teaching them how to divert the system to get asyleum anyway. Entire regions are lost over a day because of Europe’s migration policy.

I would think twice on who to take in. They abused our migrantbills to even home jihad warriors fleeing war from Russia in Syria. Jihadi warriors even travelled back and forth, having returned still enjoying all our social benefits not seeing prison one day.

If people would see what is happening behind tv screens we would think more then twice who we let in and who not.

 

[Ronja]

Teach people how to have sex responsibily? Why do responsible people that don’t want to get pregnat not get pregnant? Even though they have sex? Because they use their head and not their gut.

Well it’s good for you that you know when to have sex or not. But there are many things that happen in our world that isn’t good. A woman could get raped, must she then keep the baby? She could have had a very hard upbringing, not gotten the right guidance? Should she have to be a mother at 16 when the man who mad the same mistake gets to walk away without a care in the world.
Or perhaps she was using protection, thought she was covered and still got pregnant.
Yes, good sex education would be wonderful. But that isn’t enough and bad things still happen. If you ban abortion or make it harder to get women will do it anyway, but then with risk for their own safety and life.
If a girl gets pregnant and will not be able to care for the child properly. What, in your opinion is a good solution to her problem?

 

[Fundamental]

Well it’s good for you that you know when to have sex or not. But there are many things that happen in our world that isn’t good. A woman could get raped, must she then keep the baby? She could have had a very hard upbringing, not gotten the right guidance? Should she have to be a mother at 16 when the man who mad the same mistake gets to walk away without a care in the world.
Or perhaps she was using protection, thought she was covered and still got pregnant.
Yes, good sex education would be wonderful. But that isn’t enough and bad things still happen. If you ban abortion or make it harder to get women will do it anyway, but then with risk for their own safety and life.
If a girl gets pregnant and will not be able to care for the child properly. What, in your opinion is a good solution to her problem?

My daughters are 12 and 8 and know perfect what a morning after pill is and where to get it free. We even have condoms in the medical cabinet.
Most abortions are not because of rape but because people have irresponsible sex. In stead of teaching our kids that men can be women and about genderfluids, maybe it”s time to give REAL biology education and how to prevent pregnacies.

Abortion is a big business however for eugenics and other medical practices, so abortion is not a problem for governments, it is beneficial. That is why they dumb down our kids and later they come out of school with the most absurd comments on sex, politics and even religion.

The solution is plane and simple: Teach them with truth and don’t feed them on lies we were fed ourselves.

 

[Ronja]

My daughters are 12 and 8 and know perfect what a morning after pill is and where to get it free. We even have condoms in the medical cabinet.
Most abortions are not because of rape but because people have irresponsible sex. In stead of teaching our kids that men can be women and about genderfluids, maybe it”s time to give REAL biology education and how to prevent pregnacies.

Abortion is a big business however for eugenics and other medical practices, so abortion is not a problem for governments, it is beneficial. That is why they dumb down our kids and later they come out of school with the most absurd comments on sex, politics and even religion.

The solution is plane and simple: Teach them with truth and don’t feed them on lies we were fed ourselves.

I will ignore those comment on transgender people and stay on track. You didn’t answer my question. If a young girl gets pregnant, she has no money, perhaps she is in school, her mother and father cannot help and her boyfriend left because he didn’t want to deal with the fact he got her pregnant.
What is her solution? She is already pregnant, but the fetus is still just a few weeks old. Will you be able to adopt her child since you wanted to ban her from getting an abortion?

 

[Ronja]

Which countries are you refering to giving migrants housing? Germany? Have you seen the following crime wave when Germany opened Europe’s borders in 2015? Even people that took refugees in their home got beheaded and murdered. Children raped and all our recreational parks are now no go zones for our children if we want to them to remain safe.

Why are most migrants exclusively men leaving women and children behiind? They even funded human trafficking on boats and teaching them how to divert the system to get asyleum anyway. Entire regions are lost over a day because of Europe’s migration policy.

I would think twice on who to take in. They abused our migrantbills to even home jihad warriors fleeing war from Russia in Syria. Jihadi warriors even travelled back and forth, having returned still enjoying all our social benefits not seeing prison one day.

If people would see what is happening behind tv screens we would think more then twice who we let in and who not.

Emm yeah, sure. I wasn’t thinking about only Germany but yes, I think they are a good example.
I worked with refugees when all of them came a few years back. The reason they send their men is because they might only have the money for one person in the family. Then they will send the provider who will hopefully make it into a better country and be able to provide for his family. Or he will be able to open the door for the entire family to come. It’s as simple as that.

What are your sources of how things are in Germany? Living in Europe and hearing the rumors American people spread within their country about us is quite disturbing.
Remember when Trump said: “You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden! Sweden! Who would believe that, Sweden! They took in large numbers, they are having problems like they never thought possible!”
Error! There where absolutely nothing happening in Sweden that night. Some women gave birth, some where our partying, some worked. So imagine the surprise of hearing your president say that.

 

[Fundamental]

I will ignore those comment on transgender people and stay on track. You didn’t answer my question. If a young girl gets pregnant, she has no money, perhaps she is in school, her mother and father cannot help and her boyfriend left because he didn’t want to deal with the fact he got her pregnant.
What is her solution? She is already pregnant, but the fetus is still just a few weeks old. Will you be able to adopt her child since you wanted to ban her from getting an abortion?

Young girls get pregnant all the time and do get their babies. I have no solutions. All I am trying to do is educate my own kids and if they do get pregnant at a young age, I would help them and never consider abortion.

Emm yeah, sure. I wasn’t thinking about only Germany but yes, I think they are a good example.
I worked with refugees when all of them came a few years back. The reason they send their men is because they might only have the money for one person in the family. Then they will send the provider who will hopefully make it into a better country and be able to provide for his family. Or he will be able to open the door for the entire family to come. It’s as simple as that.

What are your sources of how things are in Germany? Living in Europe and hearing the rumors American people spread within their country about us is quite disturbing.
Remember when Trump said: “You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden! Sweden! Who would believe that, Sweden! They took in large numbers, they are having problems like they never thought possible!”
Error! There where absolutely nothing happening in Sweden that night. Some women gave birth, some where our partying, some worked. So imagine the surprise of hearing your president say that.

I live right next to Germany and walk into France and Germany without any problems. We travel back and forth on many occasions. Germany is a good example of how migration has failed and how asyleum rights were abused by fakefugees.

We can’t send our kids to swimming pools anymore because many refugees (all male of course)) have no respect for European women. They are here to stay and are not considering going back to rebuild their country.

It is not one case anymore, it’s 24/7 and after theh Marakashpact mainstream media is forbidden to report any abuse or assaults of refugees. What source do you need? Go out on 31 december in any great city at Europe (besides Hungary or Poland) and you see what migration does to a country.

Sweden is the worst. Blond girls have to paint their hair due to the daily assaults they have to endure. Look at Sweden before mass migration and look at it now. The term “stockholmsyndrome” comes from Sweden.

 

[Fundamental]

Migration of third world countries of course. We have no problems with Americans migrating to Europe. They blend in without demanding changes to fit in.

 

[Runningman]

Have you or will you adopt in your future/life?
In my opinion, only people who are willing to come up with a good solution to abortion is welcome to try to stop it.

There are already numerous solutions in place that are alternatives to abortion. Abortion is murder. It sounds like you're saying people need a better reason to not get abortion aside from it being evil and just wrong.