I Want To Suffer MORE for Jesus Christ.

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dragen1

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Yes my wife is in pain hurt her back and is wondering why God is testing her I believe and tell her God is making her stronger spiritually and she shows her faith by being faithful and trusting God in this time of pain and suffering
 

blue_ladybug

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Have her read my physical pain testimony. :) It's under the Blog tab in my profile.

Yes my wife is in pain hurt her back and is wondering why God is testing her I believe and tell her God is making her stronger spiritually and she shows her faith by being faithful and trusting God in this time of pain and suffering
 

dragen1

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Yes orange tabbies God loves yes blue ladybug is good choice for leader !!!!!!
 

karen0123

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You poor thing, I hate the Devil so much. He is so wicked, he hasn't made you do anything you have regretted has he?


King James Bible Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

As I am getting attacked by
are enemies, Jesus came to me, and said unto me love your enemy. I never thought of this ever, on till Jesus told me.

Then I was reading in the holy bible. pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

I pray for all those demons that have attacked me, and pray
for everother demon. Asking God for his mercy for them, as I was praying I wept, and thought all have sinned this include me.

I pray for all the people that have gone to
hell, and beg God for his mercy for each one.

I pray for every person on earth, and every person that will be born on earth right up to the second coming of our lord, with my tears I beg God for his mercy for each one and do penance for each one, and for all the above I have mentioned I do penance for each one. Amen


 

Johnny_B

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I have suffered every day for the last 33 years; I want to suffer for the Gospel even more.
Go to Afghanistan and preach the Gospel on any street corner if they have any or in any village and I am sure you will suffer for the Gopel's sake. Actually there could be two possibiles, either you will suffer persecution for preching the Gospel or the Lord has many people there and they will respond to the call to repentance and there will be many that come to the Lord. And if that happens I do not think that those of the Islamic faith will not like that and would do something to cause you to suffer for your faith in Christ.

Sister I am not trying to be a smarty about this, it is what I could think of to
experience suffering for Christ after 33 years of suffering for Christ.


 

tourist

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King James Bible Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

As I am getting attacked by
are enemies, Jesus came to me, and said unto me love your enemy. I never thought of this ever, on till Jesus told me.

Then I was reading in the holy bible. pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

I pray for all those demons that have attacked me, and pray
for everother demon. Asking God for his mercy for them, as I was praying I wept, and thought all have sinned this include me.

I pray for all the people that have gone to
hell, and beg God for his mercy for each one.

I pray for every person on earth, and every person that will be born on earth right up to the second coming of our lord, with my tears I beg God for his mercy for each one and do penance for each one, and for all the above I have mentioned I do penance for each one. Amen


I have done such as you have but not have the same amount of dedication as you. I pray that all are saved and all of the angels whether good or bad.
 

mcubed

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I actually like this. I live in America. Your flag is the British Virgin Islands. We do have "suffering". Of of mind, will, and emotions. Then there are people in China, North Korea, the Middle East, some countries in Africa... who are martyrs. And their "suffering" is very different. I will not pretend, I am grateful I do not suffer what they suffer. But the Scripture COMMAND US TO DIE DAILY!!! I will never say my suffering is equal to physical torture for the TRUTH. But I do not believe dying daily to the flesh should be belittled. Trust me that is suffering too; just different....



This may get backlash, but I do not care.... I do praise G-d I am a Jew born in America and do not suffer what my people suffer in other parts of the world.... It is a strange thing.... I want to defend dying to self is like killing the god every day, dead dog don't hunt... and it is true suffering just different. But I am so grateful I am not in the Middle East or Africa praying not to be martyred. I bet that old dog would be easier to kill then....


Suffering really is just different to us, depending on where you live. Thank G-d He judges the heart of a man.... Not us who judges the outside!
 

JaumeJ

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In response tho this thread's title only, the only sure and certain manner to suffer with our Savior is by believing His Word and doing It, for He is the Word, amen.
 
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JB2018

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God never inflicts pain on us. Because she needs healing, she can believe God. And by believing in God for that, her faith will become stronger.
 

Dan58

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I don't think Jesus required us to suffer; "For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light" (Matthew 11:30).

Jesus suffered for us; "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed." (Isaiah 53: 4-5)

I reckon we could be persecuted for what we believe (his name's sake), but masochism isn't generally a trait Christians desire.

 

JaumeJ

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Rev 2:10 Fear not the things which thou art about to suffer: behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days. Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee the crown of life.


1Pe 2:20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

We do suffer with Christ when we believe, at least most do. Here above are but two references to the suffering of the saints.......some suffered awful tortures, and some were sawn in two rather than to turn against their own salvation.

Beliving jESUS cHRIST IS NOT FOR sissies, or as it is writte, the faint of heart. The courage and valor come from God.

Blessed be Jesus Christ, amen.
 

DiscipleDave

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Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

There is no sin that you do that you can't cease from. The question is, "Why are you not ceasing from them" That is the question isn't it.

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DiscipleDave
You first.

Why are you so arrogant (which, BTW, is a sin), but don't do anything about it?
Am i arrogant? Or is the issue with you thinking that i am? Pray about it.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
 

DiscipleDave

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What about a sinful thought?
Good question: The sins that i teach against are those that are unto death.

There are three different kinds of sins according to Scriptures.

1) Sins unto Death = Those that are knowingly and/or willingly committed.
2) Sins not unto Death = Those that are NOT knowingly and/or willingly committed.
3) Sins not forgiven unto humans = Blaspheme of the Holy Ghost.

You walk into a persons house and see a $20 Dollar Bill lying on the flood next to the couch, your first thought was to take it and put it into your pocket, stealing it. This is indeed a sinful thought, but it is only a sin not unto death. But if you act upon it and actually do it, than you knowingly and willingly commit sin, knowing it is wrong and sinful but do it anyways, that is indeed a sin unto death, For no thief will enter into Heaven.

If you being married look upon a another and start lusting after them, this is a sin not unto death, But if you do not cease doing that thing, but choose to continue to LUST, knowing it is wrong and against God to do so, but continue to do it anyways, it then becomes a sin unto death, for no adulterer will enter into Heaven.

The sins that i teach against, are those that are knowingly and willingly committed. Sins that you know full well are sinful and evil, but you freely choose to commit them anyways, this is evil in the eyes of God, and no Christian should do that thing.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
 

DiscipleDave

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King James Bible Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

As I am getting attacked by
are enemies, Jesus came to me, and said unto me love your enemy. I never thought of this ever, on till Jesus told me.

Then I was reading in the holy bible. pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

I pray for all those demons that have attacked me, and pray
for everother demon.


You do error. We are to pray for those that despitefully use you, and persecute you. Demons do neither? You are praying for demons that use you, how so? did they possess you and make you commit sin? NO. Did demons persecute you, how did demons persecute you?. You do not understand the enemy if you think demons use you and persecute you. They merely tempt you to do this or that. YOU choose to obey them or not obey them. They can't make you do anything, save unless you are so far gone that they can actually possess your body. We are to pray for those that use us and persecute us, they are not demons, but they are people who choose listen to the temptations that demons whisper to them. You need to pray for those people to stop listening to those demons.

Know you not that demons are going to do what they do, they don't use you, nor persecute you. They cause people to use you and persecute you, those people are the ones you need to be praying for and not the demons who are do what they have to do, What? Do you think demons can repent? They have already been Judged, and KICKED out of Heaven, they will be Judged one final time in the end, and be cast into Hell for all Eternity, but until then, they will continue to do what they MUST do, and that is tempting people to live in sins.

Asking God for his mercy for them, as I was praying I
wept, and thought all have sinned this include


You would do well to read this article called The Meaning of Life.

I pray for all the people that have gone to
hell, and beg God for his mercy for each one.


Again you do error, not understand the Truth of Scriptures. Hell is not created yet. Nobody is in Hell right now. There is ONLY ONE day that determines who is going to Heaven and who is going to Hell, and that is Judgment Day, the Day when Jesus comes back to the Earth to reign on the Earth, and the Books are opened, Those who names are written in the Book of Life, shall be Saved. Those who are not written in the Book of Life or have had their names blotted out of the Book of Life, shall be left behind. And it will only be after the Great White Throne Judgment a thousand years later, that satan, demons, and all those who LOVE to sin, will be cast into hell.

I pray for every person on earth, and every person that will be born on earth right up to the second coming of our
lord, with my tears I beg God for his mercy for each one and do penance for each one, and for all the above I have mentioned I do penance for each one. Amen


There is only one person who could take on the sins of people and that is Jesus Christ, sorry but it's not you, and if you are trying to, you are doing it in vain.


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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
 

DiscipleDave

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The Bible is the living Word of God?" The Holy Scriptures says differently about suffering. I love you.


What does the Bible say about suffering?

https://www.openbible.info/topics/suffering

I suffered in the flesh, I hate sin.
Amen, on that one. i also abhor sinning too. The only issue i see, for hearing you, is your idea that demons can repent, as if you can do penance for them, This is NOT TRUE. Demons have one goal, get as many soldiers to fight with them to overtake the Holy City Jerusalem when they are released after a thousand years. They only have two options. DO NOTHING and they go to hell without even a fight. OR when they are released go to war against God and try to take the Holy City Jerusalem for themselves, and be free from hell. They do not have an option to repent and go back to Heaven. Therefore praying to God that they do, is vain, moot, and will NEVER be granted.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
 

DiscipleDave

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God never inflicts pain on us. Because she needs healing, she can believe God. And by believing in God for that, her faith will become stronger.
Sorry, but you are wrong, in saying that God never inflicts pain on us. Scriptures teach:

If you sow to the flesh, of that flesh you shall reap corruption.
You will reap what you sow.
You will be repaid for the wrong that YOU DO.
If you eat His Body or Drink His Blood unworthily, many are sickly among you and many die.
He punishes those that He loves.

Now granted self infliction of pain is not a Godly thing. God says Vengence is Mine, therefore a person there own self should not inflict vengeance on him/herself either. For example if a person has sex with another not being married. God is going to cause that person to suffer in their flesh EXACTLY as the Word of God teaches HE will do, but a person who whips them self to inflict punishment for that evil wicked act, will not cause God to cease from what HE is going to do in that persons flesh in the future. So then a person who self inflicts is only ADDING to what God is going to do anyways. God's punishment in the flesh is going to be severe enough, why on Earth would a person ADD to it? If they think what they are doing, is going to prevent it, they are most certainly WRONG.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
 

karen0123

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You do error. We are to pray for those that despitefully use you, and persecute you. Demons do neither? You are praying for demons that use you, how so? did they possess you and make you commit sin? NO. Did demons persecute you, how did demons persecute you?. You do not understand the enemy if you think demons use you and persecute you. They merely tempt you to do this or that. YOU choose to obey them or not obey them. They can't make you do anything, save unless you are so far gone that they can actually possess your body. We are to pray for those that use us and persecute us, they are not demons, but they are people who choose listen to the temptations that demons whisper to them. You need to pray for those people to stop listening to those demons.

Know you not that demons are going to do what they do, they don't use you, nor persecute you. They cause people to use you and persecute you, those people are the ones you need to be praying for and not the demons who are do what they have to do, What? Do you think demons can repent? They have already been Judged, and KICKED out of Heaven, they will be Judged one final time in the end, and be cast into Hell for all Eternity, but until then, they will continue to do what they MUST do, and that is tempting people to live in sins.

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You would do well to read this article called The Meaning of Life.



Again you do error, not understand the Truth of Scriptures. Hell is not created yet. Nobody is in Hell right now. There is ONLY ONE day that determines who is going to Heaven and who is going to Hell, and that is Judgment Day, the Day when Jesus comes back to the Earth to reign on the Earth, and the Books are opened, Those who names are written in the Book of Life, shall be Saved. Those who are not written in the Book of Life or have had their names blotted out of the Book of Life, shall be left behind. And it will only be after the Great White Throne Judgment a thousand years later, that satan, demons, and all those who LOVE to sin, will be cast into hell.



There is only one person who could take on the sins of people and that is Jesus Christ, sorry but it's not you, and if you are trying to, you are doing it in vain.


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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave




I want to suffer and by suffering I shall be purified.

2 Corinthians 3:18 King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
 
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pottersclay

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This is the most pathetic thread I've read.....such a joke....should be banned