If a Sabbath is forced, Will you keep Sunday holy?

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washburn Tn
Your argument is circular. While you raise a reasonable point that "without law, there is no sin", you are overlooking Romans 5:13 which says, "To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law."
that is the sacrificial laws the was added to the ten Commandments
 

Dino246

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The only law that was done away with was the sacrificial laws, the hand writing of Moses,
just like Col in the BIBLE tells us, But the ten commandment laws that YESUAH wrote with HIS finger, in stone, Is our part of our COVENANT, the laws that YESUAH writes ON our HEARTS. There is 2 parts of A covenant, GOD'S part, And our part, which is keeping the Commandments of GOD. THAT is why that Revelation tells us 3 times that they keep the Commandments of GOD , and this means that it is require for HIS saints to keep them. If we do not keep GOD'S commandments , We are breaking our part of the NEW Covenant
If what you claim is true, then you still must have your house inspected by a priest if you find mould in it... even the tiniest bit of black in your bathroom tile grout. Wait... can't find a priest? Just go to the temple in Jerusalem. Wait... can't find that either? I guess you're not following the commandments, so you're a sinner and therefore destined to hell for all eternity.

Your position requires ridiculous hoop-jumping to be coherent. In other words, it's not!
 
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washburn Tn
Ezekiel 28:14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
THE law of GOD go's all the way back before Satan was thrown out OF Heaven
 
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washburn Tn
You made the assertion. Now support it with biblical evidence.
GALATOONS 3:19 Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
 

Dino246

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ONE good reason is the whole world has eat up this false Sabbath.
The Papacy tells us that it IS their MARK, and says they are over the BIBLE,
Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
this is the 4th Sabbath commandments, that is being quoted, here where he is telling us to NOT worship the beast, There is very much to show us about the Sabbath, It is A memorial of GOD'S creation, And GOD tells us to rest on the Sabbath like HE did, And KEEP it holy, And we are even GOING to keep the Sabbath in the NEW EARTH, I think that alt to show us how GOD wants us to keep the Sabbath, And the number 7 IS a complete number in the BIBLE, like the 7 churches in Revelation, is the whole church from the beginning to the end of the world, And much MORE, A lot of people try to say that the Sabbath is for the JEWS, But they are wrong, THE Sabbath go's over a 1000 years before there even was A JEW,
So you believe the pope when he claims Sunday Sabbath as "their" mark, but you reject everything else the pope says? That's silly. Either believe everything he tells you, or ignore everything he says... preferably the latter. What the Catholic "organization' believes is irrelevant to Christians.
 
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washburn Tn
So you believe the pope when he claims Sunday Sabbath as "their" mark, but you reject everything else the pope says? That's silly. Either believe everything he tells you, or ignore everything he says... preferably the latter. What the Catholic "organization' believes is irrelevant to Christians.
Even Satan uses truth to deceive People like HE did Eve
 

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GALATOONS 3:19 Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Your grasp of the written English language just crossed the line from unfortunate to ridiculous. It's really difficult to take seriously someone who doesn't care enough to proof-read his posts and who consistently misspells many words. There's no excuse.
 

Dino246

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Even Satan uses truth to deceive People like HE did Eve
Think this through, Bud: if Eve had not listened to the serpent....

Then apply the same thought to your bleating about the pope.
 
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washburn Tn
So you believe the pope when he claims Sunday Sabbath as "their" mark, but you reject everything else the pope says? That's silly. Either believe everything he tells you, or ignore everything he says... preferably the latter. What the Catholic "organization' believes is irrelevant to Christians.
THE BIBLE EVEN TELLS us that he would seek to Change times and laws
So I believe THE BIBLE not the Papacy
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Even the BIBLE tells us that he will try to change the Sabbath, The Sabbath is the ONLY law of GOD that'S got any thing to DO WITH TIME, AND YET to world receive it, and are Deceived by him, When the BIBLE even warns us that that he is GOING to try to change it, And the BIBLE says that the whole world worships him
 

Dino246

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The 4th Commandment says remember the Sabbath, that means that it go's back to CREATION, And they where Gentiles
Spelling and usage errors aside, your comment is incoherent.
 

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IGOT THE true word of GOD and that is enough for me, Satan is working to destroy GOD'S commandments, Satan knows that if HE can GET US to BREAK GOD'S commandments, that WE will not be aloud in Heaven for doing the same thing that HE done to GET throwed out of Heaven, And GOD does not Change,
do we get into heaven by keeping commandments?

Satan was thrown out of heaven for what, exactly?
 

Dino246

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you need to go back and read Genesis
So do you, obviously. It says, "God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it". That's it, that's all; God said nothing there about "keeping" it.
 

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You are wrong THE Sabbath is all ABOUT CHRIST AND HIS creation
It is all about Christ and what He accomplished on our behalf, that by grace through faith in His shed righteous blood on our behalf (due to His great and everlasting love for us), we may be reconciled to God and attain to life ever after, thereby escaping the second death. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath; we rest from our works in attempting to gain salvation through following rules, ordinances, commands etc, to which none before us could perfectly adhere. We are perfected in Him, through Him, and by Him alone. He said, "It is finished." I believe Him :D
 
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washburn Tn
They are worshiping the Papacy, when they know that they are breaking GOD'S law, and obeying man's laws over GOD'S laws, when the Sunday laws are enforced, But don't start till the sunday laws Are enforced, But if they die knowing that GOD'S HOLY DAY IS the7th DAY, AND are keeping the Papacy first day of the week, that GOD says is A working day. And walking DEFILLING GOD'S HOLY SABBATH, according to the BIBLE will end up lost, and there is a lot of scriptures that tell us this,
Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? very plain
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. very plain !!!
James 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. very plain.
2 Peter
3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know [these things] before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
3:18 But grow in grace, and [in] the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him [be] glory both now and for ever. Amen very plain also, this also let us know that we will be lost if we fall, unless we repent again again, and start keeping GOD'S laws, GOD bless all as GOD sees GOOD for you all.
Just like you put your disapproval on GOD's Word HERE, I believe that HIS disapproval on what you just done. for this is what GOD'S word says
 

Dino246

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Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
This is what you all is DOING that tell people that they DON'T haft to KEEP GOD's Commandments!!!And it is not saying that they will make it to Heaven, But the ones that are in HEAVEN, are saying that you are worse, on earth, and that means worse then the sinners to!!! because what you are teaching will cause A very grate number be lost, and that is WHY YESUAH says
REV 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
The above is ridiculous. Any one of us could throw the same argument at you because you aren't keeping the rest of the Law as you claim. Not only is your line of reasoning flawed, but you're hypocritical as well.
 

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Ezekiel 28:14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

THE law of GOD go's all the way back before Satan was thrown out OF Heaven
Ezekiel 28:14 doesn't say anything whatsoever about law.