If a Sabbath is forced, Will you keep Sunday holy?

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This is nonsense and not even half true. If the Apostle John says we are a liar if we say we never sin, then I accept that as truth. Jesus died in our place so we do not have to 'bear' our sins.

That is only your past SINS, just like this verse tells US, IT is Our past SINS that that the Blood covers, But if WE willfully SIN
THEN THE BLOOD DOES not cover that SIN. We haft repent of that sin And GET YESUAH to COVER that sin also'
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
HERE the BIBLE tells about repenting again after they sin again also

2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. { HERE GOD is telling them to repent AGAIN

You are not teaching the gospel. What you present is a false Jesus and a false interpretation of the gospel.
You are very Wrong, And don't how YESUAH is working, nor know how the High Priest WORKS,
 

Hevosmies

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If the powers of this world ask us to observe a Sabbath for the common good (environment, health, social and religious reasons), will you keep Sunday holy and worship the pagan sun God, and man made traditions?
Of course not. But such a scenario will NEVER happen.

- The powers that be dont give a HOOT about what day Christians worship on, they could not care less.

- Attendance is DOWN, sunday saturday wednesday everyday. No one is attending

- This Sabbath is mark of the beast gimmick really took a hit with the covid scam, when even the Sabbath thumpin denominations closed shop. As a matter of fact: I find it funny that the same churches that preach all about the NWO and all that, how they gonna resist the government, were STRAIGHT AWAY closing their churches during the covid plandemic.

- More likely day would be FRIDAY; which is the islamic version of sabbath, they go to mosque every friday. The world is becoming MORE islamic, LESS Christian. The pope sold out recently to gay marriage and even all the observant catholics are saying that guy is a false prophet and turning pre-vatican II.
 

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You are very Wrong, And don't how YESUAH is working, nor know how the High Priest WORKS,
No you are very wrong. In fact, very very very wrong.

I doubt Jesus has given you the inside scoop here and everyone but you is wrong.

It is ridiculous for you to state I do not know how the High Priest 'works'. There is but ONE High Priest now and His work is finished. Completed. Sewn up. No more to be done.

Jesus actually said 'It is finished'. He is not working any longer. His blood provided atonement and you would like to add to that atonement by works. That, is not the gospel.
 

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What are you trying to say? Your rendition of the word complete is mumbo jumbo.

Jesus said 'It is finished'. Finished means done and done.
When sacrificing for sin was only a symbol of Christ, now Christ finished and made the sacrifice compete and perfect, Christ finished it so we can be forgiven of our sins, Christ conquered death. It is not finished and over with, it is now completed and perfect.
 
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What he presents is "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works." (Galatians 1:6-9)
Faith LIKE Satan's is NO work. FAITH LIKE Abraham 's KEEPS THE Commandments, LIKE the BIBLE says that Abraham Kept HIS Commandments, You are deceived, And mite deceive some others But I KNOW that the TEN COMMANDMENTS, Is our part of OUR COVENANT, And to break the commandments is to break covenant with GOD,
 

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When sacrificing for sin was only a symbol of Christ, now Christ finished and made the sacrifice compete and perfect, Christ finished it so we can be forgiven of our sins, Christ conquered death. It is not finished and over with, it is now completed and perfect.
You have not improved on what I stated.

In fact, you are arguing with Jesus when you say it is not finished. Jesus Himself said 'It is finished' John 19:30

What are you trying to accomplish? I cannot understand why you take exception even with words that Jesus Himself is recorded to have said. smh
 
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No you are very wrong. In fact, very very very wrong.

I doubt Jesus has given you the inside scoop here and everyone but you is wrong.

It is ridiculous for you to state I do not know how the High Priest 'works'. There is but ONE High Priest now and His work is finished. Completed. Sewn up. No more to be done.

Jesus actually said 'It is finished'. He is not working any longer. His blood provided atonement and you would like to add to that atonement by works. That, is not the gospel.
If you are stepping GOD Commandments and don't Quit walking on GOD'S laws and keep stepping over them HIS WORD, ONE DAY You will be stepping, Right in the Fire , But it will be to late for any body to tell you then, And on them
 

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If you are stepping GOD Commandments and don't Quit walking on GOD'S laws and keep stepping over them HIS WORD, ONE DAY You will be stepping, Right in the Fire , But it will be to late for any body to tell you then, And on them
Like a fluttering sparrow or darting swallow, an undeserved curse does not come to rest. Proverbs 26:2

Is this what they teach in your church? Jesus did not come into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Fear is not of God. You should not try to create fear and condemnation which is what works salvation does. Your words have no effect and are as empty as the false gospel you purvey
 

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But GOD's commandments was on the inside of the ark, And are OUR covenant to GOD. And to break them is to break your covenant with GOD.
the covenant at Horeb is not our covenant.

have you not read your Bible?

Behold!!
The days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant
(Jeremiah 31:31)
This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you
(Luke 22:20)
In that He saith a new, He hath made the first old.
(Hebrews 8:13)
our sufficiency is from God, who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant,
not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life
(2 Corinthians 3:5-6)
Bud, you have had false teachers, and you are trying to make us their disciples also.
believe instead the word of the LORD.
 
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You have not improved on what I stated.

In fact, you are arguing with Jesus when you say it is not finished. Jesus Himself said 'It is finished' John 19:30

What are you trying to accomplish? I cannot understand why you take exception even with words that Jesus Himself is recorded to have said. smh
That Was JUST THE PLAN OF salvation, YESUAH still Does the Work OF the HIGH PRIEST, READ HEBREWS, AND it will tell you that YESUAH IS OUR HIGH PRIEST, After the plan was Done, He went to the HEAVENLY SANCTUARY, NOW where he is applying the BLOOD TO OUR SINS,
 
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washburn Tn
the covenant at Horeb is not our covenant.

have you not read your Bible?

Behold!!
The days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant
(Jeremiah 31:31)
This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you
(Luke 22:20)
In that He saith a new, He hath made the first old.
(Hebrews 8:13)
our sufficiency is from God, who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant,
not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life
(2 Corinthians 3:5-6)
Bud, you have had false teachers. believe instead the word of the LORD.
Different COVENANT , BUT THE SAME Commandments
 

SophieT

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The ten commandments is not the law of MOSES , the law of Moses was not in the inside of the ark, Moses's laws was on the outside of the Ark, But GOD's commandments was on the inside of the ark, And are OUR covenant to GOD. And to break them is to break your covenant with GOD.
Hebrews
10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: GOD DOES NOT LIE
We have a new covenant through Jesus. He is called the LIVING WAY. He is not made of stone and He is not locked up in an ark and He has actually become the High Priest of the new covenant.

11Day after day every priest stands to minister and to offer again and again the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12But when this Priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God. 13Since that time, He waits for His enemies to be made a footstool for His feet, 14because by a single offering He has made perfect for all time those who are being sanctified.

15The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First He says:

16“This is the covenant I will make with them

after those days, declares the Lord.

I will put My laws in their hearts

and inscribe them on their minds.”

17Then He adds:

“Their sins and lawless acts

I will remember no more.”

18And where these have been forgiven, an offering for sin is no longer needed.

19Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Placed by the blood of Jesus, 20by the new and living way opened for us through the curtain of His body,e 21and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Hebrews 10
 

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Different COVENANT , BUT THE SAME Commandments
Bud, you really have not read your Bible? you make Christ false :(

A new commandment I give unto you
(John 13:34)
In that He saith a new, He hath made the first old
(Hebrews 8:13)
 

posthuman

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We have a new covenant through Jesus. He is called the LIVING WAY. He is not made of stone and He is not locked up in an ark and He has actually become the High Priest of the new covenant.
He is the ark, not "the ministry of death engraved on stones" swallowed up by it :)

if He regards us, we will cast our crowns at His feet just as the handwriting of Moses lay beside
 

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That Was JUST THE PLAN OF salvation, YESUAH still Does the Work OF the HIGH PRIEST, READ HEBREWS, AND it will tell you that YESUAH IS OUR HIGH PRIEST, After the plan was Done, He went to the HEAVENLY SANCTUARY, NOW where he is applying the BLOOD TO OUR SINS,
Still have no understanding of what 'It is finished means?'

How many times has Jesus died? JUST ONE TIME. The sacrificial system in the OT required thousands of sacrifices and not even one could actually remove sin.

JESUS DIED ONE TIME AND NOW HE LIVES FOREVERMORE!

23Now there have been many other priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office. 24But because Jesus lives forever, He has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore He is able to save completely those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to intercede for them.

26Such a high priest truly befits us—One who is holy, innocent, undefiled, set apart from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.

27Unlike the other high priests, He does not need to offer daily sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people; He sacrificed for sin once for all when He offered up Himself.

28For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.
 

SophieT

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He is the ark, not "the ministry of death engraved on stones" swallowed up by it :)
He is the new and LIVING way, what I meant by saying not made of stone. I understand the metaphor of ark. I prefer new and living way. (my post 715) ;)
 

posthuman

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YESUAH IS OUR HIGH PRIEST,

not after Levi.

For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law
(Hebrews 7:12)
may you understand, when read your Bible, Bud