In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old
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You're not seeing the bigger scope. That documentary wasn't made so much for Christians who are ready for Jesus to return.
This documentary is meant more for those who don't know God and for Christians who AREN'T ready for Him. This is why the documentary is free to watch in the first place.
Until such people take heed to it's message, then it IS doom and gloom for them.
The kind of attitude toward the film, like it's not even necessary, is why I don't want to talk to any of you about it.
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I usually try to focus on the essence than the tone. For example when the Germans say "i love you" it sounds angry to me. 
I agree, the way German is spoken in Germany sounds practically guttural, but it actually sounds really nice in Austria. Very refined.
Austrian German vs. German German
But Hitler was Austrian, so I don't know what happened with his spoken German in his speeches. Maybe he was just really angry after all!
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What would you like to talk about that?
That made me think that when the Lord comes back and reigns in the Millennial Age, He will let us experience what it should have been like to live before the Fall. There is the issue of who survives the great tribulation and I think it might be children who haven't reached the age of accountability? So Christians who have already been transformed and became immortal can care for them and teach them to live for the Lord. Those children will still be mortal, but I think they'll have a much longer life than even the current average lifespan right now.
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How would we know the date of Adam's creation?
I don't believe earth is 6,000 years old.
In Scotland there is the Fortingall Yew estimated to be 9000 years old. In Sweden a tree known as Old Tjikko and thought to be approximately 9,5667 years old.
In north Zambia at Columbo falls there's a 476,000 year old site being excavated by archeologists.
https://artsandculture.google.com/s...he-world-s-10-oldest-artifacts/uQWBQDrz-DI65A
I don't believe earth is 6,000 years old.
In Scotland there is the Fortingall Yew estimated to be 9000 years old. In Sweden a tree known as Old Tjikko and thought to be approximately 9,5667 years old.
In north Zambia at Columbo falls there's a 476,000 year old site being excavated by archeologists.
https://artsandculture.google.com/s...he-world-s-10-oldest-artifacts/uQWBQDrz-DI65A
We've got history that goes back that far. It's called the bible.
Meh. Scientists make mistakes all the time. When they bet something of worth on it (like their lives, or something similar), I might pay more attention. Until then, it's just people cherry-picking the evidence they like to support the conclusions of their sponsors. No different to the guy serving burgers at McDonald's, but the transaction is a little more complicated because there is more at stake.
Meh. Scientists make mistakes all the time. When they bet something of worth on it (like their lives, or something similar), I might pay more attention. Until then, it's just people cherry-picking the evidence they like to support the conclusions of their sponsors. No different to the guy serving burgers at McDonald's, but the transaction is a little more complicated because there is more at stake.
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Well, mostly to try to find an answer to the OP's question... IS the earth only 6000 years old? If scholars count the years back to the creation of Adam, and only come up with 6000 years, how are the other discoveries on the earth explained? What if Adam and Eve were in the garden for thousands of years before they fell to temptation?
Except we don't know that as a certainty... see the above....
Except we don't know that as a certainty... see the above....
We know your scenario is not reality in the same way we know about Adam and Ever: from Scripture. This same Scripture tells us that Adam was only 130 years old when Seth was born and that all creation was made in six days.
My understanding of it is that Adam's lifespan years weren't counted until after they were banished from the garden.
IF that is indeed the case, then Adam and Eve could have been in the garden a LONG time before the temptation and fall happened.
Oh, come on....lighten up.... these are simply thoughts I've had, from reading in more detail the account of creation. I've wondered how to relate the account of God creating everything, to the evidence that the world could be much older than we originally thought.
There are possible "gaps" in our understanding of the timeline given us in scripture.
Is it your understanding that God created Adam on the 6th day, then there was enough time for Adam to show evidence of needing a partner, and God put him to sleep, took a rib, created woman... then later that day, God allowed the serpent to find Eve, and they were tempted, fell, and then in the cool of the evening God was walking through the garden and found out about the fall and banished them.....
ALL on the 6th day? You remember, God saw all that he had done, and it was "very good".... does that include the fall of man?
It makes much more sense to think that Adam was in the garden for some time, taking care of, and naming all the animals before God decided to create Eve.
Then Adam and Eve could have lived in the garden for quite some time, before the serpent was allowed to visit and tempt them. Remember.... the idea was that they live forever in the garden.
There is no "pseudo-science" involved.... simply my thoughts on the subject. All of my thoughts are based on the scriptural account in Genesis 1-3....
It may very well be true... your version of the creation timeline.... that is what I was taught all my life, as well. If it is truly how it happened, I have no problem with it. God chose to not give us all the "details" of what went on during creation. I'm ok with that, and my faith will not be shaken, either way. EITHER timeline has no bearing on my salvation, or yours....
There are possible "gaps" in our understanding of the timeline given us in scripture.
Is it your understanding that God created Adam on the 6th day, then there was enough time for Adam to show evidence of needing a partner, and God put him to sleep, took a rib, created woman... then later that day, God allowed the serpent to find Eve, and they were tempted, fell, and then in the cool of the evening God was walking through the garden and found out about the fall and banished them.....
ALL on the 6th day? You remember, God saw all that he had done, and it was "very good".... does that include the fall of man?
It makes much more sense to think that Adam was in the garden for some time, taking care of, and naming all the animals before God decided to create Eve.
Then Adam and Eve could have lived in the garden for quite some time, before the serpent was allowed to visit and tempt them. Remember.... the idea was that they live forever in the garden.
There is no "pseudo-science" involved.... simply my thoughts on the subject. All of my thoughts are based on the scriptural account in Genesis 1-3....
It may very well be true... your version of the creation timeline.... that is what I was taught all my life, as well. If it is truly how it happened, I have no problem with it. God chose to not give us all the "details" of what went on during creation. I'm ok with that, and my faith will not be shaken, either way. EITHER timeline has no bearing on my salvation, or yours....
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Re "It may very well be true... your version of the creation timeline.... that is what I was taught all my life, as well. If it is truly how it happened, I have no problem with it. God chose to not give us all the "details" of what went on during creation. I'm ok with that, and my faith will not be shaken, either way. EITHER timeline has no bearing on my salvation, or yours...."
That was why I interjected my two cents by asking "what truth is necessary to learn and what information is not, although it might be interesting or helpful?"
My answer is the necessary truth is that God created the world and humanity with God-consciousness and conscience or ability to cooperate with His will--or not. One may find the details y'all are quibbling about interesting or not, but it doesn't ultimately matter, because they are of secondary importance--as hornetguy and I trust everyone realizes.
That was why I interjected my two cents by asking "what truth is necessary to learn and what information is not, although it might be interesting or helpful?"
My answer is the necessary truth is that God created the world and humanity with God-consciousness and conscience or ability to cooperate with His will--or not. One may find the details y'all are quibbling about interesting or not, but it doesn't ultimately matter, because they are of secondary importance--as hornetguy and I trust everyone realizes.
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I agree: this is not a salvific issue.
I believe that humankind was created on the 6th day, but that for a brief period, the woman was fully "in" the man's body until God withdrew and formed her. That completely avoids compressing all those actions into one day.
I don't know that it was ever God's plan for Adam and Eve to live "forever" in the garden. Instead, I believe that He fully anticipated the fall both of Lucifer and of Adam, and had in mind the redemption in Christ before the Earth was formed. Indeed, Scripture says "He was chosen before the foundation of the world" (1 Peter 1:20).
I believe that humankind was created on the 6th day, but that for a brief period, the woman was fully "in" the man's body until God withdrew and formed her. That completely avoids compressing all those actions into one day.
I don't know that it was ever God's plan for Adam and Eve to live "forever" in the garden. Instead, I believe that He fully anticipated the fall both of Lucifer and of Adam, and had in mind the redemption in Christ before the Earth was formed. Indeed, Scripture says "He was chosen before the foundation of the world" (1 Peter 1:20).
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I would not be using the term 'pseudo science'.
Science is based on observation, measurement, repeatable experiments, etc.
That is the scientific methodology and it cannot be false.
Science is constantly self correcting.
There are many ways of observing the age of the earth.
Creation science is pseudo science because Creation science is not based on direct observation
nor measurements. Creation science is solely based on a genealogy given in the Old Testament.
Science is not at war with Christianity and never was.
A sect within Christianity that employs a specific interpretation of the Old Testament is at war with science.
There is a lot wrong with scientific viewpoints and especially with scientific speculation.
Personally, I put no faith in mankind in general.
Science is based on observation, measurement, repeatable experiments, etc.
That is the scientific methodology and it cannot be false.
Science is constantly self correcting.
There are many ways of observing the age of the earth.
Creation science is pseudo science because Creation science is not based on direct observation
nor measurements. Creation science is solely based on a genealogy given in the Old Testament.
Science is not at war with Christianity and never was.
A sect within Christianity that employs a specific interpretation of the Old Testament is at war with science.
There is a lot wrong with scientific viewpoints and especially with scientific speculation.
Personally, I put no faith in mankind in general.
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