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It sometimes amazes me that people do not see their own hypocrisy. For instance, one member would go on defensive rants about how we are not to judge one another while they themselves obviously felt justified to harshly judge others, especially when they were being shown to be in error on something (rather than dealing with the Scriptures provided). Another was calling people names and then turned around and said people who call others names are obviously not saved. More recently someone said rather condescendingly: Naturally, there will be many people here in this forum that tend to assume that how they interpret the scripture, happens to coincide with what scripture also plainly says. When I asked if they counted themselves among them, they basically defectively deflected as if to deny it, to which I had to ask, why in the world they would promote things they did not believe to be true??? Of course they did not answer that. Another implied that since Adam was not deceived, neither are any men deceived by false teachings and vain philosophies. More than one person has tried to tell me I had no business addressing them unless they spoke to me first. I guess they did not like what I had to say to them, haha.
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That brings to mind a verse I put (Luke 2:35, uncited) on a panel I deigned for Christmas last year
In the original context it does not seem to be given as a positive thing, but I do see it as positive
Luke 2:14
In the original context it does not seem to be given as a positive thing, but I do see it as positive
Luke 2:14
I think that you're referring to the "a sword will pierce your soul" part which is a part of what Simeon said to Mary:
Luke chapter 2
[34] And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;
[35] (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.
If so, then I think that, in Mary's case, there were two applications:
1. That a sword would pierce her soul as she watched her son being crucified. In other words, she would experience much grief and sorrow.
2. That a sword would pierce her soul in a more generic sense or in the same way that God's word should affect us all.
Hebrews chapter 4
[11] Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
[12] For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
[13] Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
In the context of having "fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it" (Heb. 4:1), with this "rest", in context, apparently pertaining to the coming Millennial Reign of Christ, the writer explained how God's word helps to keep us from potentially "coming short of it".
In other words, seeing how "all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do", God has given us his word, which is "sharper than any two-edged sword", to PIERCE US or to be "a discerner of the thoughts and intents of our hearts", so that we might take heed to it and partake of his coming "rest".
I don't know about anybody else here, but if I'm in danger of "coming short" and somebody "openly rebukes" me or "faithfully wounds" (Prov. 27:5-6) me by "piercing" me with the "two-edged sword" of "the word of God", THEN I COUNT THEM AS MY "FRIEND" (Prov. 27:6), AND NOT AS MY ENEMY.
Hopefully, this makes sense.
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It sometimes amazes me that people do not see their own hypocrisy. For instance, one member would go on defensive rants about how we are not to judge one another while they themselves obviously felt justified to harshly judge others, especially when they were being shown to be in error on something (rather than dealing with the Scriptures provided). Another was calling people names and then turned around and said people who call others names are obviously not saved. More recently someone said rather condescendingly: Naturally, there will be many people here in this forum that tend to assume that how they interpret the scripture, happens to coincide with what scripture also plainly says. When I asked if they counted themselves among them, they basically defectively deflected as if to deny it, to which I had to ask, why in the world they would promote things they did not believe to be true??? Of course they did not answer that. Another implied that since Adam was not deceived, neither are any men deceived by false teachings and vain philosophies. More than one person has tried to tell me I had no business addressing them unless they spoke to me first. I guess they did not like what I had to say to them, haha.
The list goes on and on
The list goes on and on
I honestly believe that there are some here who truly seek to promote Christ, and others who truly seek to promote their own misguided philosophies.
There's nothing new under the sun.
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one thing about this saying is that, if i've removed a beam from my own eye, i will personally know on an intimate level how much it hurts and what harm i can do if i'm not gentle. i'll both be able to see clearly and have empathy - so that i can care not only for the speck but for the person.
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Exactly, and that's what I've basically been saying here all along.
If we recognize how much mercy we needed from God in dealing with our own sin FIRST, then we ought to similarly be merciful to those who are guilty of the same type of sin that caused us to require God's mercy ourselves. Unfortunately, such is often not the case, and that is precisely what prompted Jesus to speak the following parable:
Matthew chapter 18
[21] Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
[22] Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
[23] Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
[24] And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
[25] But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
[26] The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
[27] Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
[28] But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
[29] And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
[30] And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
[31] So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
[32] Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
[33] Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
[34] And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
[35] So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
The "servant" (vs. 26) who "fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all" is representative of any sinner who humbly repents before the Lord. When this happens, "THEN" (vs. 27) the Lord is "moved with compassion" and we are "loosed" or "forgiven" of our "debt". In other words, God doesn't offer forgiveness apart from repentance.
Having been forgiven ourselves, we should likewise forgive those who have trespassed against us when they similarly repent as "his fellow-servant" (vs. 29) did. If we don't forgive them or "have compassion on" them or "pity on" (vs. 33) them in the same manner in which the Lord had compassion or pity on us when we repented, then the Lord delivers us to the tormentors.
If we recognize how much mercy we needed from God in dealing with our own sin FIRST, then we ought to similarly be merciful to those who are guilty of the same type of sin that caused us to require God's mercy ourselves. Unfortunately, such is often not the case, and that is precisely what prompted Jesus to speak the following parable:
Matthew chapter 18
[21] Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
[22] Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
[23] Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
[24] And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
[25] But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
[26] The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
[27] Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
[28] But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
[29] And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
[30] And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
[31] So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
[32] Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
[33] Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
[34] And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
[35] So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
The "servant" (vs. 26) who "fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all" is representative of any sinner who humbly repents before the Lord. When this happens, "THEN" (vs. 27) the Lord is "moved with compassion" and we are "loosed" or "forgiven" of our "debt". In other words, God doesn't offer forgiveness apart from repentance.
Having been forgiven ourselves, we should likewise forgive those who have trespassed against us when they similarly repent as "his fellow-servant" (vs. 29) did. If we don't forgive them or "have compassion on" them or "pity on" (vs. 33) them in the same manner in which the Lord had compassion or pity on us when we repented, then the Lord delivers us to the tormentors.
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It sometimes amazes me that people do not see their own hypocrisy. For instance, one member would go on defensive rants about how we are not to judge one another while they themselves obviously felt justified to harshly judge others, especially when they were being shown to be in error on something (rather than dealing with the Scriptures provided). Another was calling people names and then turned around and said people who call others names are obviously not saved. More recently someone said rather condescendingly: Naturally, there will be many people here in this forum that tend to assume that how they interpret the scripture, happens to coincide with what scripture also plainly says. When I asked if they counted themselves among them, they basically defectively deflected as if to deny it, to which I had to ask, why in the world they would promote things they did not believe to be true??? Of course they did not answer that. Another implied that since Adam was not deceived, neither are any men deceived by false teachings and vain philosophies. More than one person has tried to tell me I had no business addressing them unless they spoke to me first. I guess they did not like what I had to say to them, haha.
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You have to do it in a slow sawing motion.
Or if you do it against a grinder, its a continious motion its smashing. If you smash something you'll just end up making it blunt.
If you dont know how to look after tools they WILL end up going blunt.
so I guess its the same with friends, you just dont treat them rough or they'll be no good to you either.
Or if you do it against a grinder, its a continious motion its smashing. If you smash something you'll just end up making it blunt.
If you dont know how to look after tools they WILL end up going blunt.
so I guess its the same with friends, you just dont treat them rough or they'll be no good to you either.