Is Christmas paganism?

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1ofthem

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Did you miss where the Apostles kept the Sabbath after Christ was crucified? They weren't Christians. They were Jews. Just like Jesus was born into that faith.
Let me put it this way. I am not a Jew so am I supposed to follow their traditions once I get saved? Does it say that anywhere in the NT that I should make sure that I have my sons circumcised, keep the Passover the feast of the unleavened bread and all that or not?
 

Lillywolf

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Let me put it this way. I am not a Jew so am I supposed to follow their traditions once I get saved? Does it say that anywhere in the NT that I should make sure that I have my sons circumcised, keep the Passover the feast of the unleavened bread and all that or not?
Do you know any Christian males that are circumcised? My husband is.

Here's a question for you. Do you know any scripture in the NT where Jesus said, hey, that thing about Sabbath? Forget it.
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. That is to say, he is/was the God that instituted the Sabbath in the beginning after he created all things. And he didn't do that for himself. He's God. He knows that.
He did it for us! The Sabbath was made for us.

Prior to Moses and the 10 Commandments. Sabbath was added to the ten commandments because it was the first law of God. And that was that which asks, remember that day and keep it holy.
Now imagine someone saying, "don't do that. You're a Christian . The Sabbath isn't made for you anymore. "
 

1ofthem

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Do you know any Christian males that are circumcised? My husband is.

Here's a question for you. Do you know any scripture in the NT where Jesus said, hey, that thing about Sabbath? Forget it.
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. That is to say, he is/was the God that instituted the Sabbath in the beginning after he created all things. And he didn't do that for himself. He's God. He knows that.
He did it for us! The Sabbath was made for us.

Prior to Moses and the 10 Commandments. Sabbath was added to the ten commandments because it was the first law of God. And that was that which asks, remember that day and keep it holy.
Now imagine someone saying, "don't do that. You're a Christian . The Sabbath isn't made for you anymore. "
Can we stay on topic here...I asked about feasts, and never even mentioned the Sabbath. Also never said it was wrong for a Christian to be circumcised, but is it a requirement once some one gets saved? And I really shouldn't have even brought circumcision up because I know that it is not a requirement for Christians.

So do you have any scripture saying that we are required to keep Jewish tradition feasts and things or not? If you do please post them, thanks :)
 

Lillywolf

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Can we stay on topic here...I asked about feasts, and never even mentioned the Sabbath. Also never said it was wrong for a Christian to be circumcised, but is it a requirement once some one gets saved? And I really shouldn't have even brought circumcision up because I know that it is not a requirement for Christians.

So do you have any scripture saying that we are required to keep Jewish tradition feasts and things or not? If you do please post them, thanks :)
Stay on topic? You're in a thread that asked is Christmas, Christs-Mass Paganism?
And you asked about feasts.

Christmas
Isn't
A
Feast.

Since you have an issue with "Jewish", the burden is yours.
 

Lillywolf

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Stay on topic? You're in a thread that asked is Christmas, Christs-Mass Paganism?
And you asked about feasts.

Christmas
Isn't
A
Feast.

Since you have an issue with "Jewish", the burden is yours.
You (y) my post. But did you answer it?
 

1ofthem

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Stay on topic? You're in a thread that asked is Christmas, Christs-Mass Paganism?
And you asked about feasts.

Christmas
Isn't
A
Feast.

Since you have an issue with "Jewish", the burden is yours.
Oops excuse me I sure didn't mean to do that I'll take care of that right away...lol
 

1ofthem

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Just as I suspected you have no real answers. Just here playing games, right. See how much more you can twist this if you want. I never said I had a problem with Jews, but hey don't let that stand in your way...you can go right on falsely accusing me for pages and pages just like you did that other guy if you want, though.

Say what you want whether it's true or not... it's whatever makes you feel good about yourself. I guess that's your game, right.
Stay on topic? You're in a thread that asked is Christmas, Christs-Mass Paganism?
And you asked about feasts.

Christmas
Isn't
A
Feast.

Since you have an issue with "Jewish", the burden is yours.
 

Jewel5712

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Why are we repeating topics of other threads? To me is just asking for trouble or "stirrin the pot"
 

1ofthem

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Why are we repeating topics of other threads? To me is just asking for trouble or "stirrin the pot"
That's what's fun for some folks on here stirring the pot. Some people just like to play games. They never have any real answers just want to play games and twist things around.
 

memyselfi

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Being you brought it up, would you kindly list those Biblical holy-days ? This may inform those who don't already know and allow for a new calendar in the Christian members life. :)
Pesach/Passover
Unleavened Bread
First Fruits
Counting the Omer
Shavuot/Pentecost
Sukkot
Rosh Hashanah/ Trumpets
Yom Kippur
Succoth/tabernacles

So.... Is this a you do not fallow them since you had me list them?

Maybe not fallowing is not a big deal to you....

My point is it does not send people to hell if they do not keep the feast nor does Christmas.

I buy a Birthday cake for Yeshua and we sing Him happy birthday of Christmas, even thought it's not His birthday and we do with without condemnation….

All of the Kingdom (just about) falls short on this one.... lol
 

Lillywolf

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Pesach/Passover
Unleavened Bread
First Fruits
Counting the Omer
Shavuot/Pentecost
Sukkot
Rosh Hashanah/ Trumpets
Yom Kippur
Succoth/tabernacles

So.... Is this a you do not fallow them since you had me list them?

Maybe not fallowing is not a big deal to you....

My point is it does not send people to hell if they do not keep the feast nor does Christmas.

I buy a Birthday cake for Yeshua and we sing Him happy birthday of Christmas, even thought it's not His birthday and we do with without condemnation….

All of the Kingdom (just about) falls short on this one.... lol
Cool.
Thanks. :)

Now let me ask you this.

When we who are in Christ are told, God's grace is irrevocable, do you think , if let us say I ,or you, honored those listed feasts, that when you, or I, die, that we, as Baptized, regenerate, repentant, reborn in Christ and alive for however many number of years in the body, church, of Christ, would be denied eternal life with the Father? Because we observed and honored that list of feasts that did exist before the new covenant that called our name?
 

Lillywolf

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Just as I suspected you have no real answers. Just here playing games, right. See how much more you can twist this if you want. I never said I had a problem with Jews, but hey don't let that stand in your way...you can go right on falsely accusing me for pages and pages just like you did that other guy if you want, though.

Say what you want whether it's true or not... it's whatever makes you feel good about yourself. I guess that's your game, right.
No answer then?
 

vashweb2

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Whether Christmas is Peganism or not doesn't not really matter considered to how many things Christians use in today's world that is from peganism. The word God itself is from peganism, so we would have to change our entire language to avoid peganism if we wanted to be sincere about it.
 

1ofthem

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Hahaha....You jumped in like you had some big answer for me, and replied to me when I wasn't even talking to you. Never did give me one answer, but now I'm supposed to give you an answer...because as you say the burden of proof is on me????....Seriously, thanks for the laugh....hahaha.

This is just way too funny. :ROFL:
 

Lillywolf

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Whether Christmas is Peganism or not doesn't not really matter considered to how many things Christians use in today's world that is from peganism. The word God itself is from peganism, so we would have to change our entire language to avoid peganism if we wanted to be sincere about it.
Bravo!

Especially Catholicism.
Pagan? To the bone baby!
 

Lillywolf

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Hahaha....You jumped in like you had some big answer for me, and replied to me when I wasn't even talking to you. Never did give me one answer, but now I'm supposed to give you an answer...because as you say the burden of proof is on me????....Seriously, thanks for the laugh....hahaha.

This is just way too funny. :ROFL:
May I offer you a tissue to dry your LMMFAO tears?





"1ofthem" ?
I won't put you on my ignore list because I know you hurt. I know you have nightmares wondering i words written on a page in a bound book could actually mean , GOD SPEAKS!

What you hold dear
What YOU are
What you are TOLD you need let go of in the Baptismal water so as to arise released. BUT
IT still feels as if it is THERE.

Yeah, I know.

Let me tell you this. I have 79 years of experience living the truth of what was ingrained in me through SCREAMING! When I was a child.

Take
it
or
leave
it


Don't live up to ROME'S World dominion expectations!! * Point here. if you Google or any SE, you'll find there is net-meaning to using !!!!!
More than once. Oh, you who use!!! are insecure.

Read
the
whole Bible



Take
your, that individual, "you", time!

READ, and then wait for me-aning.

Yeah, you read it.

See, if YOU find a mirror , as I have, and study it, and trust me, I am that what makes you say aloud or to yourself,
"REALLY?"
But annnnnywayyyyy


Look into that mirror.

No make-up. Nothing.

YOU.


JUST YOU.


Genesis 1 and beyond?

MADE in the image and like-ness?
Problem?


See? I read you my blessed beautiful sister.



What do YOU hate about YOU?

GOD LOVES YOU!

ARE U MORE? THAN THAT?
 

1ofthem

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:unsure: Don't really know what to say to all that.

So I guess all I can say is... Peace and try to keep it real...God loves you:)
 

1ofthem

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Oh and BTW, that was ROTFL tears, I had in my eyes...don't know if you know this or not but what you used as an abbreviation there doesn't stand for anything good...
 

memyselfi

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Cool.
Thanks. :)

Now let me ask you this.

When we who are in Christ are told, God's grace is irrevocable, do you think , if let us say I ,or you, honored those listed feasts, that when you, or I, die, that we, as Baptized, regenerate, repentant, reborn in Christ and alive for however many number of years in the body, church, of Christ, would be denied eternal life with the Father? Because we observed and honored that list of feasts that did exist before the new covenant that called our name?
What is your question? Are you going to hell? If that is the question the only thing that will send any one to hell the rejection of Messiah? Have you rejected Him? Different topic....