Is KJV the only real bible version?
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A paraphrase? Really?
I will, but this is not at the same authority of the ESV or any other translation, as this is merely a paraphrase like the Message Bible, but here it goes:
And people from throughout Judea and Jerusalem were heading over to John, and were being baptized by him in the Jordan river, confessing their sins.
I specified "people", as land did not move, but the people from the land moved.
What doctrinal issue does this deal with, or are we literally in one of those "arguments over words" warned about in Scripture.
Perhaps it is not worth even defending anything here, as there is no doctrine at stake, only a conspiracy theory.
If you can come up with a doctrinal issue, in the way that I previously asked, then I will continue to discuss the matter.
I will, but this is not at the same authority of the ESV or any other translation, as this is merely a paraphrase like the Message Bible, but here it goes:
And people from throughout Judea and Jerusalem were heading over to John, and were being baptized by him in the Jordan river, confessing their sins.
I specified "people", as land did not move, but the people from the land moved.
What doctrinal issue does this deal with, or are we literally in one of those "arguments over words" warned about in Scripture.
Perhaps it is not worth even defending anything here, as there is no doctrine at stake, only a conspiracy theory.
If you can come up with a doctrinal issue, in the way that I previously asked, then I will continue to discuss the matter.
U
Actually, the many of those who work on the modern translations are not compensated, but do so out of ministry and service, donating the time.
Such an argument does not help the KJV argument, as it was a commissioned work, and handsomely compensated.
Compensation does not equal compromise,
and profit does not equal corruption.
The motive is always the issue, not the result.
Doing it in order to gain wealth is evil.
Doing it in order to bring the Word of God to a new generation, and then being blessed for it financially, is good.
Such an argument does not help the KJV argument, as it was a commissioned work, and handsomely compensated.
Compensation does not equal compromise,
and profit does not equal corruption.
The motive is always the issue, not the result.
Doing it in order to gain wealth is evil.
Doing it in order to bring the Word of God to a new generation, and then being blessed for it financially, is good.
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You really think that versions of the bible were made out the goodness of their hearts? really, no money is behind it. Do you know what it cost to produce a book that consist of 66 books. Call them and say you want to produce a book that is 35 pages. It took millions to produce these other version and how did they get the investors? by the profits that they forecasted. Y'all just don't know how business works. The bible is the number one selling book in the world and if you can get a 10% market share that means billions off dollars.
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Let me give you a fictional story to explain how God's Word can remain pure in all circumstances.
Let us say that Nebuchadnezzar banned all Hebrew writing throughout his kingdom, including the Bible.
He noticed that his own people and those in surrounding territories under his control, wanted to read the infamous Book of the Jews, and that the Jews wanted to read their Book again.
He decided that he could sell them the Book for a high price, and they would all buy it willingly,
and would love him for letting them read it,
making him a fortune and giving him more power.
Now he couldn't just give them their old Book back, as that would be going back on his law of "no Hebrew writings",
so he commissions Daniel to translate the Bible into Babylonian/Aramaic.
He promises Daniel vast wealth and power as payment for the translated work (seeing as he know how much wealth and power he will gain from selling the Book).
Will the work of Daniel be compromised because of the greed of Nebuchadnezzar?
Or does God place His servants exactly where they need to be.
Let us say that Nebuchadnezzar banned all Hebrew writing throughout his kingdom, including the Bible.
He noticed that his own people and those in surrounding territories under his control, wanted to read the infamous Book of the Jews, and that the Jews wanted to read their Book again.
He decided that he could sell them the Book for a high price, and they would all buy it willingly,
and would love him for letting them read it,
making him a fortune and giving him more power.
Now he couldn't just give them their old Book back, as that would be going back on his law of "no Hebrew writings",
so he commissions Daniel to translate the Bible into Babylonian/Aramaic.
He promises Daniel vast wealth and power as payment for the translated work (seeing as he know how much wealth and power he will gain from selling the Book).
Will the work of Daniel be compromised because of the greed of Nebuchadnezzar?
Or does God place His servants exactly where they need to be.
U
The same can be said of the firm's that print the KJV, as it is the #1 selling version.
Their publishers are likely what push the KJV-only agenda.
How does money affect the product? Do you think the KJV is printed free?
Look on Biblegateway or Biblehub, or any of the online Bible study tools. They are free, and have ALL those "profit" versions available. No one made money on that deal. Money is not the issue, even if you think it is.
Their publishers are likely what push the KJV-only agenda.
How does money affect the product? Do you think the KJV is printed free?
Look on Biblegateway or Biblehub, or any of the online Bible study tools. They are free, and have ALL those "profit" versions available. No one made money on that deal. Money is not the issue, even if you think it is.
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And, do you know why? ( I am saying this "to the whole crowd" - not just to you, KJV1611 - I think you know why... 
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What people don't understand about the KJV is that it will NEVER be "out-dated"...
In 5 years, you may need a new [modern bible version] - because the modern language will have changed enough to alter the meaning of the text.
In 10 years, you may need another still...
("Speaking strictly in terms of translation - not to mention 'error', etc.")
NOT SO with the KJV.
Unlike modern English - which is changing continually - the "middle English" of the KJV is "a snapshot in time" - fixed and un-changing.
No matter what changes in modern language, the language of the KJV will not have changed "one iota" -- in truth, it is actually "timeless"...
That is the "beauty" of it. God has "seen to it" that it does not change with the times...
You have to think of it like a second language -- once you learn that language - you are "good for life" - because it will not ever change -- this is how you have to look at it.
And then, you get the benefit of the "completeness" of the KJV.
I grew up with the KJV. I understand it better than any other version I have ever read from. I wouldn't trade it for any other version - under any circumstances.
It contains information that all the others have lost in their translation.
It is that good. It is that important. It is that "vital" to gaining the most accurate understanding of the original Greek and Hebrew texts.
"Has it ever occurred to you that Satan is trying to change the modern language as fast as he can so that people will 'throw out' the KJV?"
Believe it!
"I believe the KJV is STILL the BEST available English Bible translation BY FAR."
.
In 5 years, you may need a new [modern bible version] - because the modern language will have changed enough to alter the meaning of the text.
In 10 years, you may need another still...
("Speaking strictly in terms of translation - not to mention 'error', etc.")
NOT SO with the KJV.
Unlike modern English - which is changing continually - the "middle English" of the KJV is "a snapshot in time" - fixed and un-changing.
No matter what changes in modern language, the language of the KJV will not have changed "one iota" -- in truth, it is actually "timeless"...
That is the "beauty" of it. God has "seen to it" that it does not change with the times...
You have to think of it like a second language -- once you learn that language - you are "good for life" - because it will not ever change -- this is how you have to look at it.
And then, you get the benefit of the "completeness" of the KJV.
I grew up with the KJV. I understand it better than any other version I have ever read from. I wouldn't trade it for any other version - under any circumstances.
It contains information that all the others have lost in their translation.
It is that good. It is that important. It is that "vital" to gaining the most accurate understanding of the original Greek and Hebrew texts.
"Has it ever occurred to you that Satan is trying to change the modern language as fast as he can so that people will 'throw out' the KJV?"
Believe it!
"I believe the KJV is STILL the BEST available English Bible translation BY FAR."
.
And, do you know why? ( I am saying this "to the whole crowd" - not just to you, KJV1611 - I think you know why... )
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