IS MAN TOTALLY DEPRAVED?

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GraceAndTruth

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eternally-gratefull said:
Why do you limit God? The word came from the HS, is the HS limited and unable to give his word without use of a booK?
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The HOlY SPIRIT does not speak on His own, but is always in agreement with the Godhead which is revealed only in scripture.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Do you ever feel the need to talk to anyone without attacking or belittling them? Do you not realise how aweful and low this makes you look? Wake up girl, god does not need to to tear people down to defend him, he is a big boy!
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I think "judge not" would be appropriate here
 
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FREE WILL - to make opinion based on NO outside influence, in other words live in a vacuum all your life
 
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The hearing ear and the seeing eye, The LORD has made both of them.
PROV 20:12

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Yep, see God made you greater than them, he gave you the greater ears and eyes, so you are special (at least you think so)

Thanks for agreeing with me
 
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i CAN AGREE WITH THAT,
YET BEING AMUSED IS WHY I STARTED THIS JOURNEY ON A FORUM,
KNOWING THAT THE SLINGS AND ARROWS WOULD BE THROWN, I JUST PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD AND KEEP ON KEEPING ON.
SOMEONE ALWAYS WANTS TO "HOLY SPIRIT" ME..........NOT HAVING READ "WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE THE SERVANT OF ANOTHER?" ROM 14:4 HAVING A LIFE OUTSIDE THE FORUM HELPS TOO!!
YOU ALSO KEEP ON KEEPING ON, YOUR VIEWS ARE VALID TO YOU IF NOT TO ME AND I SEE YOUR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEM AND MY RIGHT TO INFORM YOU THAT YOU ARE WRONG. (little joke there so don't get your feathers ruffled, nor am I yelling) ;)
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Your the one throwing those slings and arrows at anyone who disagrees with you,

Yet you refuse to admit it,

Yell all you want, it just shows how you are being convicted of this and it is your emotional response to what is true.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Yep, see God made you greater than them, he gave you the greater ears and eyes, so you are special (at least you think so)

Thanks for agreeing with me
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So now you are cross because God made the seeing eye and the hearing ear?
It's not like I made this up......gave you the scripture.
Are you saying that God did not give you the seeing eye or the hearing ear?
 
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garee said:
Free will would have to be defined.

I would think if Christ, our high priest continually without beginning of days or end of Spirit life is the lamb of God slain from the foundation (6 days). This is when he was working before he rested on the 7th. and he wrote down the names of the many that the father gave Him . When the books are opened if anyone's name was not found in the book of the lamb when compared to the book of life (every creatures created) . They will not rise to new spirit life on the last day and receive the promise our new incorruptible bodies.


Peter truth was not of his own self . Moving Peter to do the will of God is because Christ accepted him who name is written in the lambs book of life from the foundation of the word. Peter like all believers had "no faith" before Christ gave them ears to hear .That faith as our free gift is not of our own selves as if it was after the imagination of ones heart that again has no faith. Not little none. God's faith that works in us with us to both will and perform his good pleasure is the gift that we freely receive from the hand or will of God, therefore no could boast as if it was of their own self. .

Revelation 13:8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
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Free will defined

I give you multiple choices, which one will you chose,
 
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FREE WILL - to make opinion based on NO outside influence, in other words live in a vacuum all your life
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Wrong. Whete do you come up with this stuff?

Free will is based on make a choice based on everyhting including outside influences,
 
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GraceAndTruth said:
I think "judge not" would be appropriate here
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Yet you feel free to judge everyone with almost every post by mocking and attacking them with your sly remarks.

I think the term do as i say not as i do applies. (At least when it comes to you)

Or better yet, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, something you should learn.
 
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So now you are cross because God made the seeing eye and the hearing ear?
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I am not cross, i think its funny, it does not affect me at all, i know better.
It's not like I made this up......gave you the scripture.
Are you saying that God did not give you the seeing eye or the hearing ear?
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No you did not make it up, someone else did,
God gave me the ability to have faith by doing all he did to pay for my salvation, then drawing me to himself by the Holy spirit convicting me, and all the things god used to directly influence my free will, my decision to be like th tax collector and get on my inees and cry out in despair.

Again, john said god gave the power to become sons and daufhers of god to those who recieve him

We do not recieve because we were made greater people than others, we recive because we saw who we are truly, and who God is truly, and realised apart from God, we are hopless
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Free will defined

I give you multiple choices, which one will you chose,
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Mankind was not created as free will agents. But created to do the will of God .What choice did mankind make in regard to food or meat used to represent the will ?To do the will of one not seen, or one seen?

John 4:33-34 King James Version (KJV) Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?
Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Wrong. Whete do you come up with this stuff?

Free will is based on make a choice based on everyhting including outside influences,
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noun
noun: free will; noun: freewill
  1. 1.
    the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.
 
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Mankind was not created as free will agents. But created to do the will of God .What choice did mankind make in regard to food or meat used to represent the will ?To do the will of one not seen, or one seen?

John 4:33-34 King James Version (KJV) Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?
Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
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Um sorry, i can not agree in whole, yes we were created to do gods will, but not as robots,
When mankind was created, they were given the free will choice to do as god said, or disobey. In the end they disobeyed, and man has been fallen ever since.
 
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noun
noun: free will; noun: freewill
  1. 1.
    the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.
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Yep does not support what you said. It did not say the inability to act on outside influences.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I am not cross, i think its funny, it does not affect me at all, i know better.


No you did not make it up, someone else did,
God gave me the ability to have faith by doing all he did to pay for my salvation, then drawing me to himself by the Holy spirit convicting me, and all the things god used to directly influence my free will, my decision to be like th tax collector and get on my inees and cry out in despair.

Again, john said god gave the power to become sons and daufhers of god to those who recieve him

We do not recieve because we were made greater people than others, we recive because we saw who we are truly, and who God is truly, and realised apart from God, we are hopless
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So now you are saying that PROVERBS is not scripture.
Proverbs 20:12

and quoting scripture is "funny"?
 
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So now you are saying that PROVERBS is not scripture.
Proverbs 20:12

and quoting scripture is "funny"?
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No, I am saying your interpretion is wrong, and you trying tomuse it to denyyou think you are special,is wrong.

God made all things, god did not make you specially because you saw, and others lower because they can not see. Stop puffing yourself up, how can you claim you have repented when you lack any form of humility?

Its ok thouh, it is obvious you can not see alot, you see it in your posts.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
No, I am saying your interpretion is wrong, and you trying tomuse it to denyyou think you are special,is wrong.

God made all things, god did not make you specially because you saw, and others lower because they can not see. Stop puffing yourself up, how can you claim you have repented when you lack any form of humility?

Its ok thouh, it is obvious you can not see alot, you see it in your posts.
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gave you the dictionary definition
do YOU have a dictionary? Look it up.....if you dare
 
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GraceAndTruth said:
gave you the dictionary definition
do YOU have a dictionary? Look it up.....if you dare
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Dare? I do not get my beliefs from a flawed dictionary, i get it from the word.

But as we see, you are influenced by men of all sorts
 
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We make free will choices almost ever day based on outside influences, how we dress, what we spend out money on, how we do our jobs, many many choices we make are directly influenced by outide influences

To say free will is not based on these influences, well ....
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Dare? I do not get my beliefs from a flawed dictionary, i get it from the word.

But as we see, you are influenced by men of all sorts
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Use everything.......Bible first, dictionary, concordance
Whatever it takes to get to truth

Now I have answered a lot that you asked.........how about looking up free will in your dictionary and giving the definition.
And its FREE WILL, not freewill.
 
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