Is Television Evil?

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Guns do not kill people; people do. Same holds true for any mode of communications.
How can anything that places us in a position of drinking in the food offered as sacrifice to idols not be evil?

You spoke rightly that it is not the gun that does the killing but the corrupted spirit which the people unwisely drank in.
 
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There was a Puertorican preacher, more than 20 years ago, who said so, many times, and broke dozen of TV sets... Today he owns a TV channel, out there. Ha! Ha!
 
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Police: Man kills grandmother over what to watch on TV


I truly believe if all it took to cause him to do that to his grandmother then it wasn't just the TV show. There's more to it then that. No history of violence doesn't mean he didn't have a temper, she didn't antagonize him, etc. It means there were no police reports or neighbors who knew anything.

I DO agree that TV provides some pretty sick, perverted, vile "entertainment" and I don't allow a lot of it in my home. My son, 18, thinks I go overboard because "he knows it's just TV, it's all fake, he doesn't believe it" but I've explained how it can make us so callous to real events that nothing matters anymore.

I remember as a kid how a rape on the evening news was REALLY NEWS! Shocking, appalling, horrible news. Now it's just one of many and while we are probably angered by it we are not shocked by it. How do we go back? God knows and He's telling us how, focus on HIM. Simple!

I have to admit, I love to watch TV. But I'm selective about the shows I watch, the people I listen to and when I'm offended or bothered I turn to something else or turn it off. I watch a lot of Christian programming, keep it on in the background, even, so it's what's filtering in, not negative stuff.
 

Elizabeth619

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I completely agree on the internet issue. That is not the point. I clearly stated it is not the tv that is evil it is what a person allows to come into there homes VIA the tv.
Sitcoms, reality tv, soaps, talk shows daytime and night time, comedians, childrens, comedies, etc.

If it does not Glorify or bring Glory to God and his name or his word it should not be allowed into the home.
Even the comercials have to go. You can not even watch what claimes to be christain broadcasting without being hammered by sinful advertisement.

Why let this come into your home?
You can't talk about one and not the other. Avoiding a discussion about the Internet is rather hypocritical. Both can be evil. Both can lead to bad habits, attitudes ect.

You can't sit and talk about the evil influence of television when you are sitting at a computer that can lead to evil temptations worse than tv.
I don't watch porn. I don't look at it online or watch movies on tv. Yet I will on occasion get pornographic spam emails. Should I avoid the Internet completely because of this? Or should I block the email address where the spam came from? I never asked for these emails. Nor did I subscribe to it.
If you have conviction about something then by all means refrain, but that doesn't give you the authority to condemn others who do not refrain.
 
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I have tv, but the majority of the channels are blocked. We need to be very careful about what we are watching. I am amazed how much influence tv has on our culture.
 
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It depends on how you look at it... T.V. entices you to covet; commercializing is what it is use for; but if you uses it just to see what going in the world and able to avoid the temptations that it provides, then it okay...I just heard that the docu-drama or whatever it is, about mermaids that were found was all a hoax. I knew that it couldn't be real because it never mention it in the scriptures, and the scientist that said that he saw a mermaid, he look like an actor from an movie that I had saw in the past. I couldn't remember what movie that it was at the time, but I had my guards up. But this has let me know how far that a person will go to deceive There are a lot of great deceivers in this world so you better be on guard what you see and or hear.

Mermaids: 'Body Found,' 'New Evidence' Fake Or Real? Shocking Videos Staged By Animal Planet? [VIDEO] - International Design Times
 

Elizabeth619

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It depends on how you look at it... T.V. entices you to covet; commercializing is what it is use for; but if you uses it just to see what going in the world and able to avoid the temptations that it provides, then it okay...I just heard that the docu-drama or whatever it is, about mermaids that were found was all a hoax. I knew that it couldn't be real because it never mention it in the scriptures, and the scientist that said that he saw a mermaid, he look like an actor from an movie that I had saw in the past. I couldn't remember what movie that it was at the time, but I had my guards up. But this has let me know how far that a person will go to deceive There are a lot of great deceivers in this world so you better be on guard what you see and or hear.

Mermaids: 'Body Found,' 'New Evidence' Fake Or Real? Shocking Videos Staged By Animal Planet? [VIDEO] - International Design Times
I watched the entire episode of that when it was aired and was well aware it wasn't real from the beginning. Animal Planet created it for entertainment purposes only. The producers plainly say that.
 
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I watched the entire episode of that when it was aired and was well aware it wasn't real from the beginning. Animal Planet created it for entertainment purposes only. The producers plainly say that.
The way they had phrase it could have meant anything. but I didn't believe it but it was very convincing. I don't believe a lot of things what science says; for an example they had said that GMO food products is safe to eat, and they also had said that Aspartame ( artificial sweetner) is safe also, but it isn't.

[video=youtube_share;5qZKJAf2XXw]http://youtu.be/5qZKJAf2XXw[/video]
 
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There was a Puertorican preacher, more than 20 years ago, who said so, many times, and broke dozen of TV sets... Today he owns a TV channel, out there. Ha! Ha!
Owning a TV channel does not mean the same thing as randomly watching TV. The owner of a TV channel can regulate it's content, even if it is but a single program on a channel owned by others, Jesus said he came not to take us out of the world but that we should be no part of the world.

When we randomly watch junk TV programing we are being a part of the world and subject to being led by the spirit in the world.

Unfortunately in the hands of the spiritually immature a TV will be used like a gun in the hands of a child.
 
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You can't talk about one and not the other. Avoiding a discussion about the Internet is rather hypocritical. Both can be evil. Both can lead to bad habits, attitudes ect.

You can't sit and talk about the evil influence of television when you are sitting at a computer that can lead to evil temptations worse than tv.
I don't watch porn. I don't look at it online or watch movies on tv. Yet I will on occasion get pornographic spam emails. Should I avoid the Internet completely because of this? Or should I block the email address where the spam came from? I never asked for these emails. Nor did I subscribe to it.
If you have conviction about something then by all means refrain, but that doesn't give you the authority to condemn others who do not refrain.
I disagree with the comparison of television and internet. Television is and has always been a pre-programmed data stream. Someone else at the top of the information pyramid, an atheist typically, will decide what you see and what you don't.


The WWW is quite opposite, I could fill 30 hours every day watching Christian related videos on YouTube from sermons to every kind of traditional and contemporary worship music. It's like walking through a field picking up gold nuggets, instead spending hours searching for a needle in the haystack of television.


I didn't see any point so I gave my television away a few days after the 2013 Super Bowl. Those are the fruits I hope that you judge me by.


Right now looking at my computer my browser I have CC Bible study chat, Jesus Culture on YouTube, and at least 6 tabs related to various discernment topics. Everything is Christian because I decide what the data stream is, not someone from CNN or Sony Pictures. Skype is open too, everyone on my Skype list is a Christian from several continents. Nothing on television can compare with my laptop.


Spam email related to pornography is one of those things that exists if you have an email account. Should it keep you off the internet? I don't know. You'll never be in a car accident if you don't go in cars, but if you don't travel around you're not going to have the richness that human life life offers in 2013.
 

maxwel

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]No Zone... It isn't "All Good" nor am I certain why YOU felt the need to insert yourself into the into the scenario, but since you did... here goes.

There are rules on CM regarding blatant personal attacks. Since I was not addressing Popclick in this particular thread, nor in the others she "grabbed" words from to support her "case" against me... she
has broken the rules. Popclick is the one who initiated the controversy by inserting herself into a
public admonishment of another member with her own comment which was plainly directed at me (post #25).
My Response to her (post#57) included an assortment of contextual applications and was intended by me
to close the matter. Howbeit,Popclick decided to continue pursuing and making argument for the matter,
thus disclosing the "nature" of her railing by harvesting a short phrase and two words from other posts
made by me, from at least two different forums and three seperate threads, none of which were directed to her.

Popclick's method of operation in this scenario;
1)being the initiator
2)having no defense that I specifically invited her comments
3)having aggressively pursued the issue and promoted her agenda after I made effort to quash it.
4)demonstrated an intention to seek an opportunity, over a period of time with assorted posts
5)fabricated a cause in an attempt to ridicule publicly
....if that does not fit the definition of "blatant personal attack"... I don't know what would.

It's not my habit to hold grudges, I make intentinal effort to READ posts and interpret them by the
words without adding to what is written. I don't feel the least bit bad about being considered
"abbrasive".. though it seems clear that Popcick's implication was meant to accuse, judge and ridicule
me personally, as opposed to the dialogue scenarios she captured my words from. In doing, so Popclick
has violated Matt.7:1-5, the beam in Popclick's eye is her "attack" upon me. She is 25, I am 45,
Popclick violates the God ordained scriptural principals of order and authority, the fact that she
inserted herself and thus created the conflict... just adds to her insubordinate conduct within the
context of Christian fellowship here at CC.

I am delighted that my comments have caused some to feel "chaffed"... it tells me the Spirit is at work.
I am not sorry someone feels "abraded". I am not immune to this occurence, however, I do make effort
to examine the cause of my irritation and consider if making argument will hold up in the light of
scripture before taking a stand. If anyone feels "offended" by comments CC has a policy 1)Don't open
them, 2) don't reply to them or report it. Popclick also ignored this very practical and authoritative advice. Regarding the report scenario...anybody can do that... I have confidence the moderators can discern the difference between "judging and action or incident" and attempting to vilify another with a personal attack.

So there ya go, Zone, I am going to simply suppose that your purpose for inserting yourself into this
scenario was an effort to be peacemaker. I am disappointed by your broad brush method
. I am not a "go along to get along person", I do believe such negates Christian integrity. I could continue to state my case further but feel I have covered the pertainent issues adequately for the audience sake. I am unimpressed by your opinion here and do stand firm that Popclick should apologize for her offense. I also re-interate my previous conclusion to leave her to her fruit.
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I have to agree.

Zone, what exactly is your problem?
You're going around here being all polite,
trying to deflect animosity,
wanting brothers and sisters in Christ to get along,
actually trying to help people resolve their differences.

Wow.

I'm really disappointed by your crazy behavior.
 
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lenin's plan to destroy and take over america from the inside has been at work all along. even though we were warned it was still allowed to take place. making sure that communists got positions teaching history, birth control....the whole shebang. why we allowed it is beyond me but here it is.....full grown and birthing puppies
 
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jerusalem

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Ephesians 2;1-2 SATAN IS THE PRINCE OF THE POWER OF THE AIR....BUT OUR GOD IS THE KING OF ALL THINGS. satan has the upper hand in media whether it is television, music, internet or any rdif chip.....the power of the air clearly includes sound which travels through airwaves on many different frequencies.....but Jesus' parting prayer didn't ask that we be taken out of the world but that we would overcome it. nothing is evil in and of itself. the perversion of it's intended purpose is what changes that. we are to be good stewards of the good gifts our God has given us....and that includes the airways
 

Nautilus

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Owning a TV channel does not mean the same thing as randomly watching TV. The owner of a TV channel can regulate it's content, even if it is but a single program on a channel owned by others, Jesus said he came not to take us out of the world but that we should be no part of the world.

When we randomly watch junk TV programing we are being a part of the world and subject to being led by the spirit in the world.

Unfortunately in the hands of the spiritually immature a TV will be used like a gun in the hands of a child.
Yes because like a gun a child with a tv can randomly kill innocent people on accident...or this analogy of yours actually makes no sense.
 
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Are books evil?
It depend on who has written the book. The internet also can be use for evil..... I don't know why people love to spread lies; but this world becoming ridiculous with lies. What is truth?

[video=youtube_share;8mUlHQraw8U]http://youtu.be/8mUlHQraw8U[/video]
 
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I think it all depends on what you watch and if it interferes with your life and relationship with GOD.

I know that UPCI ministers are forbidden to have television, yet they rent movies and watch things on hulu.

The elders want to make sure that the ministers don't start filling their brains with junk, this is understandable, but the internet has junk too.
I have always had a problem with this way of thinking.

To me it is all about personal accountability and that personal accountability must come from a changed heart, not a set of rules
.
 

Elizabeth619

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I disagree with the comparison of television and internet. Television is and has always been a pre-programmed data stream. Someone else at the top of the information pyramid, an atheist typically, will decide what you see and what you don't.


The WWW is quite opposite, I could fill 30 hours every day watching Christian related videos on YouTube from sermons to every kind of traditional and contemporary worship music. It's like walking through a field picking up gold nuggets, instead spending hours searching for a needle in the haystack of television.


I didn't see any point so I gave my television away a few days after the 2013 Super Bowl. Those are the fruits I hope that you judge me by.


Right now looking at my computer my browser I have CC Bible study chat, Jesus Culture on YouTube, and at least 6 tabs related to various discernment topics. Everything is Christian because I decide what the data stream is, not someone from CNN or Sony Pictures. Skype is open too, everyone on my Skype list is a Christian from several continents. Nothing on television can compare with my laptop.


Spam email related to pornography is one of those things that exists if you have an email account. Should it keep you off the internet? I don't know. You'll never be in a car accident if you don't go in cars, but if you don't travel around you're not going to have the richness that human life life offers in 2013.
You think the internet isn't as evil? What about hackers, piracy and other illegal activity online?
The point I was trying to make is both tv, and internet can be used to purposes that are sinful, but that doesn't mean that a Christian is forbidden to have either. There is evil everywhere. Not just on a screen. If a person plans on stayed away from evil and not being in contact with it then they may as well just never leave their home.
We will be exposed to things that are not Godly, and as Christians we know how to handle those situations.

FYI, just because this is a Christian site doesnt mean it is immune to evil either. I found out yesterday a man that I used to talk to in the chat rooms on occasion here was a pedophile. He has been banned thank goodness, but that is just one example of how the internet isn't safe. You don't know who you are talking to.
Yes, this is a wonderful site. I love many people here, but that doesn't make this place "safe". Sin is everywhere. We just need to learn how to guard ourselves so we are not vulnerable to it.
 

Elizabeth619

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I have to agree.

Zone, what exactly is your problem?
You're going around here being all polite,
trying to deflect animosity,
wanting brothers and sisters in Christ to get along,
actually trying to help people resolve their differences.

Wow.

I'm really disappointed by your crazy behavior.
If you look at the date of the thread you will see that little argument happened back in January. I assume those involved have moved on from this and put it behind them, and if they have not there is no need in drawing more attention to it. Some things should be handled in private message.