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You had me at 'Frankfurt School'. 
So many people have no idea whatsoever.
It's all been in the works for such along time...
Do I sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist yet?
So many people have no idea whatsoever.
It's all been in the works for such along time...
Do I sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist yet?
it means the indoc isn't working
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5M0xtxQVQ[/video]
zone can now embed youtubes...thx Luke
acting can be rather lucrative. GW comes from a long line of 'em
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I think television is a medium which encourages passivity, so there is reason to make sure you don't fall into the habit of using TV as a replacement for personal ambition or piety.
However, I think the main problem is not television but the culture behind it. I personally don't watch television (I do watch some television shows, which I buy on DVD), but I don't think it is any more crass and sin-loving than most other things people do.
I sympathize with the cultural bent of many Evangelical and Puritan-types, but I think we have to keep things in perspective. Long before pornography or gangster rap, whores and gangsters existed. It is the sin, and not the medium, that taints it.
However, I think the main problem is not television but the culture behind it. I personally don't watch television (I do watch some television shows, which I buy on DVD), but I don't think it is any more crass and sin-loving than most other things people do.
I sympathize with the cultural bent of many Evangelical and Puritan-types, but I think we have to keep things in perspective. Long before pornography or gangster rap, whores and gangsters existed. It is the sin, and not the medium, that taints it.
I have read on this thread that television is a tool. It is.
I have read on this thread that we have a choice of what we watch. That is true.
While television is a tool and we do have a choice, there's just one issue we really need look at........ temptation.
Which of us, with our personal weaknesses, would go out into the world and watch everything we could that takes advantage of our weakness? Should a Christian man who has difficulty looking at women go to the public pool just to watch? What about the Christian ladies?
You see, while we do have the choice, we must remember when we turn on the TV, there are thousands of choices. Thousands of temptations. And every one of them pointed at us. How many of us go out into the world just to look at the things we shouldn't look at? Yet, in the privacy of her own homes, while we are by ourselves, when temptation is more likely to occur, we sit in front of the TV set. Aren't we the most vulnerable when we are alone? Most people wouldn't go to battle standing at the front lines by themselves. Nobody in their right mind would. Perhaps we need to reconsider our ways?
I have read on this thread that we have a choice of what we watch. That is true.
While television is a tool and we do have a choice, there's just one issue we really need look at........ temptation.
Which of us, with our personal weaknesses, would go out into the world and watch everything we could that takes advantage of our weakness? Should a Christian man who has difficulty looking at women go to the public pool just to watch? What about the Christian ladies?
You see, while we do have the choice, we must remember when we turn on the TV, there are thousands of choices. Thousands of temptations. And every one of them pointed at us. How many of us go out into the world just to look at the things we shouldn't look at? Yet, in the privacy of her own homes, while we are by ourselves, when temptation is more likely to occur, we sit in front of the TV set. Aren't we the most vulnerable when we are alone? Most people wouldn't go to battle standing at the front lines by themselves. Nobody in their right mind would. Perhaps we need to reconsider our ways?
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Aha! I knew you were a conspiracy theorist!! (Welcome to the club!)
con·spir·a·cy [kuh n-spir-uh-see]
noun, plural con·spir·a·cies.
1.
the act of conspiring.
2.
an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3.
a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.
4.
Law. an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.
5.
any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.
Aha! I knew you were a conspiracy theorist!! (Welcome to the club!
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con·spir·a·cy [kuh n-spir-uh-see]
noun, plural con·spir·a·cies.
1.
the act of conspiring.
2.
an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3.
a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.
4.
Law. an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.
5.
any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.
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come on Barly It's all good. Popclick is cool and quite nice. love
zone
It's all good. Popclick is cool and quite nice. lovezone
There are rules on CM regarding blatant personal attacks. Since I was not addressing Popclick in this particular thread, nor in the others she "grabbed" words from to support her "case" against me... she
has broken the rules. Popclick is the one who initiated the controversy by inserting herself into a
public admonishment of another member with her own comment which was plainly directed at me (post #25).
My Response to her (post#57) included an assortment of contextual applications and was intended by me
to close the matter. Howbeit,Popclick decided to continue pursuing and making argument for the matter,
thus disclosing the "nature" of her railing by harvesting a short phrase and two words from other posts
made by me, from at least two different forums and three seperate threads, none of which were directed to her.
Popclick's method of operation in this scenario;
1)being the initiator
2)having no defense that I specifically invited her comments
3)having aggressively pursued the issue and promoted her agenda after I made effort to quash it.
4)demonstrated an intention to seek an opportunity, over a period of time with assorted posts
5)fabricated a cause in an attempt to ridicule publicly
....if that does not fit the definition of "blatant personal attack"... I don't know what would.
It's not my habit to hold grudges, I make intentinal effort to READ posts and interpret them by the
words without adding to what is written. I don't feel the least bit bad about being considered
"abbrasive".. though it seems clear that Popcick's implication was meant to accuse, judge and ridicule
me personally, as opposed to the dialogue scenarios she captured my words from. In doing, so Popclick
has violated Matt.7:1-5, the beam in Popclick's eye is her "attack" upon me. She is 25, I am 45,
Popclick violates the God ordained scriptural principals of order and authority, the fact that she
inserted herself and thus created the conflict... just adds to her insubordinate conduct within the
context of Christian fellowship here at CC.
I am delighted that my comments have caused some to feel "chaffed"... it tells me the Spirit is at work.
I am not sorry someone feels "abraded". I am not immune to this occurence, however, I do make effort
to examine the cause of my irritation and consider if making argument will hold up in the light of
scripture before taking a stand. If anyone feels "offended" by comments CC has a policy 1)Don't open
them, 2) don't reply to them or report it. Popclick also ignored this very practical and authoritative advice. Regarding the report scenario...anybody can do that... I have confidence the moderators can discern the difference between "judging and action or incident" and attempting to vilify another with a personal attack.
So there ya go, Zone, I am going to simply suppose that your purpose for inserting yourself into this
scenario was an effort to be peacemaker. I am disappointed by your broad brush method. I am not a "go along to get along person", I do believe such negates Christian integrity. I could continue to state my case further but feel I have covered the pertainent issues adequately for the audience sake. I am unimpressed by your opinion here and do stand firm that Popclick should apologize for her offense. I also re-interate my previous conclusion to leave her to her fruit.[/COLOR]
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just because you become angry with someone does not mean that you don't love them still.
God became angry with Israel quite a bit but He still loved her.
you sir have gone to a legalistic extreme.
anger is an emotion. now if she had said she cut the hand off the person who took the food from her i would understand such a reaction as to accuse her as putting food above another human being.
or if a starving person asked for food and she denied that person then such a statement might be warranted.
however i find her comment refreshing because it shows how illogical such statements can become.
perhaps her sarcasm is not appreciated by most and might rub certain people (especially of the older generation) the wrong way.
It does not make it any less valid a statement which everyone is entitled to make without being belittled and made to look or sound childish and immature for commenting.
anyone can judge me and call me childish if you want but I enjoy watching tv and I don't think God condemns me for it.
I like having my husband and my friends spend time watching a movie with me.
yes the world comes in through the tv. but we LIVE in the world and i would rather discuss such things at home with my children rather than let them go out into the world in a pretend bubble of unrealisitic expectation of sugar plums.
yes we choose what we watch and what we spend our time in. and if it is a sin to not spend all my time reading my bible, praying on my knees, fasting for the world or other supposedly pious activities, then I am a sinner.
what is new about that?
I'm not going to insert myself in the side conversation, but I like Nod's comments and hope she continues to be her blunt honest self. It makes me feel less alone and more willing to freely speak my own mind.
rather anyone wants to hear it or not is another matter.
God became angry with Israel quite a bit but He still loved her.
you sir have gone to a legalistic extreme.
anger is an emotion. now if she had said she cut the hand off the person who took the food from her i would understand such a reaction as to accuse her as putting food above another human being.
or if a starving person asked for food and she denied that person then such a statement might be warranted.
however i find her comment refreshing because it shows how illogical such statements can become.
perhaps her sarcasm is not appreciated by most and might rub certain people (especially of the older generation) the wrong way.
It does not make it any less valid a statement which everyone is entitled to make without being belittled and made to look or sound childish and immature for commenting.
anyone can judge me and call me childish if you want but I enjoy watching tv and I don't think God condemns me for it.
I like having my husband and my friends spend time watching a movie with me.
yes the world comes in through the tv. but we LIVE in the world and i would rather discuss such things at home with my children rather than let them go out into the world in a pretend bubble of unrealisitic expectation of sugar plums.
yes we choose what we watch and what we spend our time in. and if it is a sin to not spend all my time reading my bible, praying on my knees, fasting for the world or other supposedly pious activities, then I am a sinner.
what is new about that?
I'm not going to insert myself in the side conversation, but I like Nod's comments and hope she continues to be her blunt honest self. It makes me feel less alone and more willing to freely speak my own mind.
rather anyone wants to hear it or not is another matter.
