Is the Devil bound right now...?
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I disagree....God did not speak to man in metaphors, but in words that were literally understood.
When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense; seek no other sense. Therefore, take every word at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning unless the facts of the immediate context, studied in the light of related passages and axiomatic and fundamental truths indicate clearly otherwise. (David Cooper, "Golden Rule of Interpretation", Biblical Research Monthly)
The Bible has about 40 human authors, who wrote during a period spanning 1,600 years and has one divine Author—God (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20-21).
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
In 1 Peter 5:8 we find that "our adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" According to that verse, Satan is walking about (as a roaring lion).
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
If he is bound, he must be on a very long leash. However, the literal interpretation of this verse taken in its context does not even hint that Satan is bound. The entire book of Revelation can be summarized in one verse (Chapter 1, verse 19):
Revelation 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
"things which thou hast seen" - (Revelation 1); "things which are" - (Revelation 2-3); "things which shall be hereafter" - (Revelation 4-22). The majority of the book of Revelation is future (which includes the binding of Satan for 1,000 years in Revelation 20)
Revelation 20:1-3 says that Satan WILL BE BOUND for a LITERAL 1,000 years:
Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
A thousand (1,000) years means a thousand (1,000) years....not an indeterminable amount of time.
When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense; seek no other sense. Therefore, take every word at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning unless the facts of the immediate context, studied in the light of related passages and axiomatic and fundamental truths indicate clearly otherwise. (David Cooper, "Golden Rule of Interpretation", Biblical Research Monthly)
The Bible has about 40 human authors, who wrote during a period spanning 1,600 years and has one divine Author—God (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20-21).
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
In 1 Peter 5:8 we find that "our adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" According to that verse, Satan is walking about (as a roaring lion).
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
If he is bound, he must be on a very long leash. However, the literal interpretation of this verse taken in its context does not even hint that Satan is bound. The entire book of Revelation can be summarized in one verse (Chapter 1, verse 19):
Revelation 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
"things which thou hast seen" - (Revelation 1); "things which are" - (Revelation 2-3); "things which shall be hereafter" - (Revelation 4-22). The majority of the book of Revelation is future (which includes the binding of Satan for 1,000 years in Revelation 20)
Revelation 20:1-3 says that Satan WILL BE BOUND for a LITERAL 1,000 years:
Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
A thousand (1,000) years means a thousand (1,000) years....not an indeterminable amount of time.
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you do not literally interpret them. You interpret them to fit in with your ideas,
LOL an American !!!! Enough said, The trouble is you ignore the NT, and the LITERAL meaning of the words. You twist it to fit in with your ideas,
well? and you think that they were all literalists?
true, but as Paul interpreted it.
IF you bother to look it is the prophets who did not privately interpret it LOL
funny, I haven't seen any literal roaring lions
he is not on a leash at all. He is not physical. Indeed nor could he be physically bound. See where your LITERALISM gets you?
But JESUS says he was BOUND in Matt 12.28-29. You conveniently ignore that
Try chapter 4 LOL You're in the wrong chapter.
its funny but my Bible doesn't interpret it that way. It leaves it literally much more vague. And it certainly give the impression LITERALLY that 'hereafter' means 'after John is speaking'.,
Nothing says it is future to US, just your interpretation (and Scofields)
it doesn't say 'for a literal thousand years'. and we have seen Jesus said he was already bound in Matthew 12.28-29.
Who should I believe? You or Jesus?
'A thousand' is rarely literal in the OT (only for measurements), you should know that. When Jews used large numbers they meant them to be taken figuratively. But you don't bother with such trivialities. After all 'Scofield says' LOL
LOL an American !!!! Enough said, The trouble is you ignore the NT, and the LITERAL meaning of the words. You twist it to fit in with your ideas,
well? and you think that they were all literalists?
true, but as Paul interpreted it.
IF you bother to look it is the prophets who did not privately interpret it LOL
funny, I haven't seen any literal roaring lions
he is not on a leash at all. He is not physical. Indeed nor could he be physically bound. See where your LITERALISM gets you?
But JESUS says he was BOUND in Matt 12.28-29. You conveniently ignore that
Try chapter 4 LOL You're in the wrong chapter.
its funny but my Bible doesn't interpret it that way. It leaves it literally much more vague. And it certainly give the impression LITERALLY that 'hereafter' means 'after John is speaking'.,
Nothing says it is future to US, just your interpretation (and Scofields)
it doesn't say 'for a literal thousand years'. and we have seen Jesus said he was already bound in Matthew 12.28-29.
Who should I believe? You or Jesus?
'A thousand' is rarely literal in the OT (only for measurements), you should know that. When Jews used large numbers they meant them to be taken figuratively. But you don't bother with such trivialities. After all 'Scofield says' LOL
It is grammatically impossible for 1 Peter 5.8 to be referring to Satan.
The word 'the' (Greek article) is simply not present in the original verse, and was artificially inserted into the English translation to make it flow.
This passage refers to A devil...NOT The Devil.
Demons were frequently referred to as devils in the NT.
To take this one-hit-wonder verse any other way, would force legions of other scripture into contradiction.
the grammer and parts of speech for the verse are given here
1 Peter 5:8 Interlinear: Be sober, vigilant, because your opponent the devil, as a roaring lion, doth walk about, seeking whom he may swallow up,
adversary, diabolos, walks, are all singular, talking about a singular person or object.
for the absence of the article
[B-Greek] Definition of an anarthrous noun.
"There is perhaps no other part of Greek grammar where the Greek idiom differs so greatly from the English."
"Anarthrous constructions are most often intended to point out the
quality of something..."
so, in my opinion, "your adversary, the devil, walks..." is the correct approach. This opinion is supported by every english translation I've seen so far.
1 Peter 5:8 Interlinear: Be sober, vigilant, because your opponent the devil, as a roaring lion, doth walk about, seeking whom he may swallow up,
adversary, diabolos, walks, are all singular, talking about a singular person or object.
for the absence of the article
[B-Greek] Definition of an anarthrous noun.
"There is perhaps no other part of Greek grammar where the Greek idiom differs so greatly from the English."
"Anarthrous constructions are most often intended to point out the
quality of something..."
so, in my opinion, "your adversary, the devil, walks..." is the correct approach. This opinion is supported by every english translation I've seen so far.
Its devil singular. He is the spirit of error that the demons follow after. You could say as many demons that are led by the spirit of error are children of error. Just as we could say as many that are led By the Spirit of Christ are sons of God.
They are the two spirits we are to concern ourselves with. One of God. The other the god of this world.
The later "spirit of error" is the one that that the apostles knew not of and is why Christ said to them who simply did not understanding the meaning of the parable offered to them three times .
Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what "manner of spirit" ye are of.
Before we can be led by the Spirit of Christ, the correct "manner of spirit" (the unseen) we would first have forget the indoctrination that which comes naturally (walking by sight)
They are the two spirits we are to concern ourselves with. One of God. The other the god of this world.
The later "spirit of error" is the one that that the apostles knew not of and is why Christ said to them who simply did not understanding the meaning of the parable offered to them three times .
Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what "manner of spirit" ye are of.
Before we can be led by the Spirit of Christ, the correct "manner of spirit" (the unseen) we would first have forget the indoctrination that which comes naturally (walking by sight)
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1 Peter 5:8 Interlinear: Be sober, vigilant, because your opponent the devil, as a roaring lion, doth walk about, seeking whom he may swallow up,
Part of Speech: Adjective
Case: Nominative
Gender: Masculine
Number: Singular
the various nt writers had different levels of greek experience, which must be taken into account.
so, how to best bring it into english? my conclusion is, "your adversary, the devil, walks..."
This conclusion is shared by every english translation I've seen so far.
do you feel that you've come across some new finding that all those other greek specialists have missed?
1 Peter 5:8 Interlinear: Be sober, vigilant, because your opponent the devil, as a roaring lion, doth walk about, seeking whom he may swallow up,
Part of Speech: Adjective
Case: Nominative
Gender: Masculine
Number: Singular
the various nt writers had different levels of greek experience, which must be taken into account.
so, how to best bring it into english? my conclusion is, "your adversary, the devil, walks..."
This conclusion is shared by every english translation I've seen so far.
do you feel that you've come across some new finding that all those other greek specialists have missed?
The point is that a lion creeps up on his prey and then at the right time he charges in to take the kill. That is what the enemy does. He came to kill,steal, and destroy. He creeps up like a nasty virus in our lives and before we know it we are overcome in sin. Have you ever heard the song"slow fade". It is a good representation of how sin overtakes our lives
James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
If the devil is bound why does is say in the bible to resist him causing him to flee?
1 Peter 5:8
Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
Prowls around? How can he prowl around if he is bound.