Is the doctrine of limited atonement biblical?
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I do not get offended when one speaks harshly, I am aware that sometimes statements comes out harshly, which is why at time I sign respectfully.
If you are referring to Luke 24:44 about something you have not seen, believe me, I read that verse many times and about 7 months ago was when the Spirit of God enlightened my mind the truth about that verse and many cannot see it and I pointed that verse out to many and still they do not respond to it. I was puzzle with why Saul ask David to cut off 100 foreskin and I when to prayer and asked God and I believe the Spirit of God explained this to me in my mind. Do you know why?
When I study, I do not read books on theology, neither do I get into commentary, I do not go into the Scriptures trying to interpret God's word, I believe that the Spirit of God will enlighten one's mind of the truth of God's word what Got made clear when he first spoke. The only book I would pick up to read is books on encouragement and seeking God and Gene Getz as a nice old series on the character of God. I wrote a small book titled SEEK GOD, I do not push it, if one goes to my website they can purchase it, but I gave out the book to people at no charge as well, one will not get rich with amazon, most important I hope to sell where I can get it translated in a language to give it out for free at no charge. I have not problem sending you a copy at no charge, but I will have to do it next month, if you cannot wait then you will have to order it. I recently created a site and putting beautiful biblical lessons that the Spirit of God has been teaching me, you are welcome to enter it, free. I do have an audio, but is under construction.
If you are referring to Luke 24:44 about something you have not seen, believe me, I read that verse many times and about 7 months ago was when the Spirit of God enlightened my mind the truth about that verse and many cannot see it and I pointed that verse out to many and still they do not respond to it. I was puzzle with why Saul ask David to cut off 100 foreskin and I when to prayer and asked God and I believe the Spirit of God explained this to me in my mind. Do you know why?
When I study, I do not read books on theology, neither do I get into commentary, I do not go into the Scriptures trying to interpret God's word, I believe that the Spirit of God will enlighten one's mind of the truth of God's word what Got made clear when he first spoke. The only book I would pick up to read is books on encouragement and seeking God and Gene Getz as a nice old series on the character of God. I wrote a small book titled SEEK GOD, I do not push it, if one goes to my website they can purchase it, but I gave out the book to people at no charge as well, one will not get rich with amazon, most important I hope to sell where I can get it translated in a language to give it out for free at no charge. I have not problem sending you a copy at no charge, but I will have to do it next month, if you cannot wait then you will have to order it. I recently created a site and putting beautiful biblical lessons that the Spirit of God has been teaching me, you are welcome to enter it, free. I do have an audio, but is under construction.
SUNBOWNSAM, Yes we are in agreement with your first two statements, but respectfully. I think that we see it differently in the way "God reaches out to us" in your third statement. John 1:1, In the beginning was the word (the three in one God). and the word was with God (Christ being the word). The gospel, being the good news message of Jesus, was not in the beginning with God. The messenger, Jesus was, but the message was not. My intention in saying this is that although there is a deliverance in understanding the gospel it is not an eternal deliverance, but a timely deliverance. Understanding the gospel is a product of being regenerated and not the cause of being regenerated. In my understanding of Eph 2, God regenerates the natural man, who is yet dead in sins (spiritually and cannot respond to the things of the Spirit until God gives him the indwelling of the Holy Spirit). The good news of the gospel is informing those who have been regenerated that they now have the imputed righteousness of Christ and do not have to go about trying to establish their own righteousness by the works of the law, repenting, accepting, believing are the products of already being born again with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and not the cause of being born again. I guess we must see "being born again" differently, but am not sure how you see it. I believe that the scriptures uphold the fact, that once we are regenerated, we never become unregenerate, and have the security of our eternal inheritance. I believe that after we are regenerated we become newly born babes in Christ and receive spiritual faith, which is a fruit of the Holy Spirit that we have received in the new birth. As babes in Christ we get our spiritual nourishment from the milk of the word and gradually grow in faith as we hear the gospel taught to us until we are mature enough to feed upon the meat of the gospel. I would welcome some more information on how that Christ's sacrifice was an offering for man's acceptance. It was my understanding that Jesus's sacrifice on the cross was an offering to God, for God's acceptance, and not to man for man's acceptance. His sacrifice was for the payment of those that God gave him. Heb 10:12-14, But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God. From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he HATH PERFECTED FOREVER them that are sanctified. 17, And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Thanking you in advance for your response. Respectfully, Forest.
I appreciate the fact that you depend upon the Holy Spirit in revealing spiritual things unto you. I learned that lesson the hard way; I believe that I was born again sometime in my youth, by evidence of the desire to understand God's word. I had a problem with the scriptures, seemingly, contradicting each other, and I knew that it was the inspired word of God and that all of the scriptures were supposed to harmonize. I am 85 years old now, but when I was 50 years old, I vividly remember the mindset that I had at that time and It was that if I purchased a Strong's concordance and diligently studied the, seemingly, contradicting scriptures that I "WAS SMART" enough to figure it out. I attended many different churches of differing beliefs and took notes to bring home and try to determine their meanings without prevailing. I am, also, very stubborn by nature and did some very serious studying until I was 62 years old, when I decided that I was not smart enough to figure it out and thought I had to be content with not understanding the scriptures. I do not remember the time laps, but shortly after I had given up on my entelect, I was talking with my brother-in-law about the scriptures and, thank the Lord, the Holy Spirit within me began revealing some truths of the things I had studied all those years on. I understood then why the Holy Spirit had not revealed for so long, and concluded that if he had revealed to me in the mindset that I had, I would have taken credit for my entelect and not given God credit for it. Jesus tells us to deny ourselves and take up our cross and follow him. Lean not unto our own understanding. I appreciate you.
If the message was not in the beginning then you will have to explain Genesis 3:15, cross-reference it with Isaiah 53, and as you see that the message was revealed and fulfilled in the crucifixion of Christ. God in his sovereignty knows all this, he is omniscient, he calls what is not as it is. Didn't he elect before the foundation of the world and doesn't this implies that he is absolutely sovereign? I think I understand what you are trying to convey, but if this message came sometime after, are you saying that one day this came to his mind about salvation, if yes, then what you are saying prior to it coming to his mind he did not know about this message, which I am seeing in the way you are thinking and if that is the case then according your view he cannot be omniscient, therefore, he cannot be absolutely sovereign.
You continued with... your intention in saying this is that although there is a deliverance in understanding the gospel it is not an eternal deliverance, but a timely deliverance. Please elaborate because I do not understand how this relates to the statement to made right before making this statement.
How can God give one the indwelling of the Spirit when man is not yet forgiven? Yeshua said to the man born blind, your sins are forgiven, the Spirit was not indwelling in him or was it? As previously stated, God reaches out to man because man would not seek God, therefore, the Spirit of God uses people like us to minister the Gospel of Salvation so that they can see the love of God and he quickens them to respond at that moment, man respond because the Spirit of God quickened him, but it is his decision if he would serve. When time of judgment comes those who reject Yeshua will have not excuses and cannot say they never heard the Gospel of Salvation, why you think the Scriptures say today is the day of Salvation, not tomorrow, I can safely say the moment one hears it he needs to respond with an acceptances of the atonement that Yeshua did on the cross, but he will decide.
The Spirit of God recently enlightened a scriptural truth. If you read the story of Yeshua and Nicodemus, when Yeshua mentioned born-again Nicodemus answered with, how can a man be born when he is old, can he enter his mother's womb a second time? And after he asked, how can these things be? Yeshua answered, with the following... art thou a master of Israel, and thou knowest not these things? This was an earthly thing that Yeshua told him. From the way I understood this, Nicodemus should have understood this from the free woman and the bond woman. Born-again is the moment that you accept, it is at the moment one becomes save. I hope I am not diverting, but the way you wrote was not clear to me. What made Abraham the father of faith is that he responded with faith, so our respond has to be with immediate faith to be saves.
If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that a person can lose their salvation, in other words, once saved always saved and if that is what you believe, you cannot substantiate that through the Scriptures, that is the doctrine of man. The Word of God is clear that a man can lose their salvation.
As I previously stated, Yeshua died for mankind not some but all and by man being quickened by the Spirit of God he respond with a decision to accept the atonement or to deny the atonement. I think I previously explain to you Heb 10:12-14 and if I didn't let me know.
You continued with... your intention in saying this is that although there is a deliverance in understanding the gospel it is not an eternal deliverance, but a timely deliverance. Please elaborate because I do not understand how this relates to the statement to made right before making this statement.
How can God give one the indwelling of the Spirit when man is not yet forgiven? Yeshua said to the man born blind, your sins are forgiven, the Spirit was not indwelling in him or was it? As previously stated, God reaches out to man because man would not seek God, therefore, the Spirit of God uses people like us to minister the Gospel of Salvation so that they can see the love of God and he quickens them to respond at that moment, man respond because the Spirit of God quickened him, but it is his decision if he would serve. When time of judgment comes those who reject Yeshua will have not excuses and cannot say they never heard the Gospel of Salvation, why you think the Scriptures say today is the day of Salvation, not tomorrow, I can safely say the moment one hears it he needs to respond with an acceptances of the atonement that Yeshua did on the cross, but he will decide.
The Spirit of God recently enlightened a scriptural truth. If you read the story of Yeshua and Nicodemus, when Yeshua mentioned born-again Nicodemus answered with, how can a man be born when he is old, can he enter his mother's womb a second time? And after he asked, how can these things be? Yeshua answered, with the following... art thou a master of Israel, and thou knowest not these things? This was an earthly thing that Yeshua told him. From the way I understood this, Nicodemus should have understood this from the free woman and the bond woman. Born-again is the moment that you accept, it is at the moment one becomes save. I hope I am not diverting, but the way you wrote was not clear to me. What made Abraham the father of faith is that he responded with faith, so our respond has to be with immediate faith to be saves.
If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that a person can lose their salvation, in other words, once saved always saved and if that is what you believe, you cannot substantiate that through the Scriptures, that is the doctrine of man. The Word of God is clear that a man can lose their salvation.
As I previously stated, Yeshua died for mankind not some but all and by man being quickened by the Spirit of God he respond with a decision to accept the atonement or to deny the atonement. I think I previously explain to you Heb 10:12-14 and if I didn't let me know.
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I like your last statement... you understood then why the Holy Spirit had not revealed for so long, and concluded that if he had revealed to you in the mindset that you had, you would have taken credit for your intellect and not given God credit for it.
I am 64 years old, God as taught me to put it on the table, that I am not the one that open the eyes. At 19 years of age, I was so indulged in apologetics that I neglected my relationship with God in Yeshua. About 10 years ago, I met a woman, through her God was showing me how much he loved me, I told me in my mind that he loves beyond my love for her. So, I started reading the Scriptures, the book up Samuel, The Spirit of God was really teaching me. Falling in love with this woman, I asked God is distance love possible and God responded with the following, sitting on the throne, my Son made it possible. The way I was looking at this woman with my eyes, believe me God was telling in my mind, I look at you beyond the way you look at her. This is how God reconciled my life to his. Believe me, but this woman because God used her in my life I took her as my wife, my first married at 57, will be entering my 7 years marriage next year. I am from the states living abroad.
It is better just to pray asking God that the Spirit of God just enlighten your eyes with the truth of God's words, what God made clear when he first spoke and believe me, I only read the Scriptures and even in our discussion I pray that I response accordingly.
I love writing quotes, you talking about stubborn, I wrote the following... We tend to learn the hard way because of our stubborness.
I like your last statement... you understood then why the Holy Spirit had not revealed for so long, and concluded that if he had revealed to you in the mindset that you had, you would have taken credit for your intellect and not given God credit for it.
I am 64 years old, God as taught me to put it on the table, that I am not the one that open the eyes. At 19 years of age, I was so indulged in apologetics that I neglected my relationship with God in Yeshua. About 10 years ago, I met a woman, through her God was showing me how much he loved me, I told me in my mind that he loves beyond my love for her. So, I started reading the Scriptures, the book up Samuel, The Spirit of God was really teaching me. Falling in love with this woman, I asked God is distance love possible and God responded with the following, sitting on the throne, my Son made it possible. The way I was looking at this woman with my eyes, believe me God was telling in my mind, I look at you beyond the way you look at her. This is how God reconciled my life to his. Believe me, but this woman because God used her in my life I took her as my wife, my first married at 57, will be entering my 7 years marriage next year. I am from the states living abroad.
It is better just to pray asking God that the Spirit of God just enlighten your eyes with the truth of God's words, what God made clear when he first spoke and believe me, I only read the Scriptures and even in our discussion I pray that I response accordingly.
I love writing quotes, you talking about stubborn, I wrote the following... We tend to learn the hard way because of our stubborness.
What would Luke 24:44 have to do with what Saul was asking David, to cut off 100 foreskin?
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Luke 24:44
Circumcision as a cerinimoinal law is a shadow of the suffering of our bloody husband. . Christ before hand, and the glory that followed. . It is finished. Therefore representing the resurrection, the graves were opened representing the first born. It would appear it is fulfilled.
One demonstration is all that was promised. We have one new ceremonial law that reflects all the nations as one kingdom of priest as two fold .(1 Corinthians 11) One aspect in respect to representations of the hidden glory of God using hair as a metptphor and the other half wine and bread to indicate the up coming wedding supper in the new heavenly and earth. Like circumcision it hold no spiritual value . Simply used to represent the converting power of the gospel. Two literally becoming one bride.
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Luke 24:44
Circumcision as a cerinimoinal law is a shadow of the suffering of our bloody husband. . Christ before hand, and the glory that followed. . It is finished. Therefore representing the resurrection, the graves were opened representing the first born. It would appear it is fulfilled.
One demonstration is all that was promised. We have one new ceremonial law that reflects all the nations as one kingdom of priest as two fold .(1 Corinthians 11) One aspect in respect to representations of the hidden glory of God using hair as a metptphor and the other half wine and bread to indicate the up coming wedding supper in the new heavenly and earth. Like circumcision it hold no spiritual value . Simply used to represent the converting power of the gospel. Two literally becoming one bride.
OK...well, you have indicated you aren't even sure about Christ yet, so I don't think you're in a position to correct my theology 
If someone doesn't acknowledge that Jesus is YHVH and that he is their only hope for salvation, and that without him they are lost, I don't think talking to them about election is relevant.
If someone doesn't acknowledge that Jesus is YHVH and that he is their only hope for salvation, and that without him they are lost, I don't think talking to them about election is relevant.
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Luke 24:44 had nothing to do with circumcision, maybe if you read the conversation both Forest and I were having you would understand why I mentioned Saul and David. Again, it had nothing to do with Luke 24:44. with this being said, I need not to respond to your second paragraph.
As for the bread and wine, was it a command that Yeshua gave and where in the Scriptures does it say that he gave this commandment? The reason I am asking this question is because it is said to do is as often as you can, in other words, not once a month, but as often you can, which means that you can do it alone at home or with family or with friends. This appears more as if he is saying to do it as and act of commemorating his crucifixion. Just think about this and don't bring theology into this because the question that is being ask, was it a command that Yeshua gave?
Luke 24:44 had nothing to do with circumcision, maybe if you read the conversation both Forest and I were having you would understand why I mentioned Saul and David. Again, it had nothing to do with Luke 24:44. with this being said, I need not to respond to your second paragraph.
As for the bread and wine, was it a command that Yeshua gave and where in the Scriptures does it say that he gave this commandment? The reason I am asking this question is because it is said to do is as often as you can, in other words, not once a month, but as often you can, which means that you can do it alone at home or with family or with friends. This appears more as if he is saying to do it as and act of commemorating his crucifixion. Just think about this and don't bring theology into this because the question that is being ask, was it a command that Yeshua gave?
OK...well, you have indicated you aren't even sure about Christ yet, so I don't think you're in a position to correct my theology
If someone doesn't acknowledge that Jesus is YHVH and that he is their only hope for salvation, and that without him they are lost, I don't think talking to them about election is relevant.
If someone doesn't acknowledge that Jesus is YHVH and that he is their only hope for salvation, and that without him they are lost, I don't think talking to them about election is relevant.
OK...well, you have indicated you aren't even sure about Christ yet, so I don't think you're in a position to correct my theology
If someone doesn't acknowledge that Jesus is YHVH and that he is their only hope for salvation, and that without him they are lost, I don't think talking to them about election is relevant.
If someone doesn't acknowledge that Jesus is YHVH and that he is their only hope for salvation, and that without him they are lost, I don't think talking to them about election is relevant.
Unitedwithchrist, when and where did I ever state the fabricated lie that you created in your mind then convinced yourself that I indicated that I was not sure about Christ yet? Show me, otherwise, you need to apologize, though I will not expect one from you, you cannot admit to your wrong as I can see in your writings.
Also, what does your second paragraph have to do with anything, unless, you are throwing a question to open another topic. In your conviction statement it appears more as a copy and paste, you are all books from what I am seeing.
Its true Brother, i can't see where you denied the Deity of Jesus Christ, UnitedwithChrist must be mistaken and should apologize, at the same time....... SUNDOWNSAM it is foul play to judge UnitedwithChrist when you said: "you cannot admit to your wrong as I can see in your writings. "
How can you see that? and How do you know that? maybe you should also apologize, your making judgments that are not founded on truth.
How can you see that? and How do you know that? maybe you should also apologize, your making judgments that are not founded on truth.
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Again, you fabricate a
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Again, you fabricate a lie that you created in own your mind then convinced yourself with that lie to conclude that I am not committed Yeshua. By the way, it is not that you are confused is just that you cannot accept what I am saying so to make yourself holy you fabricate a lie to stir up people so that they can attack me and that is exactly what it appears you are doing. You own me another apology!
We are not called to be a christian, we are called to be followers of Yeshua. Nowadays, everyone calls themselves a christian, does that mean they are followers? Think about this question because many will probably say to God that they were a christian and God will respond to them... depart from me, I never knew you.
I am not on this site to solicit my simple book on seeking God, but maybe you should order it then you tell me what is important to me. Believe me, I will not get rich with this book and that is not my intention for the following reasons... because at times I do give it out for free and because people only want to read theology books and three because I do not want to use Yeshua's name to create books, which is why I do not push it. Put it this way, one day this book will be translated in another language to be given out for free to that country.
So, you need to apologize for the fabricated lies you create in your mind to falsely accuse, but like I said, I won't expect it from you, the way you write tells me that you cannot admit to your wrongs.
Again, you fabricate a
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Again, you fabricate a lie that you created in own your mind then convinced yourself with that lie to conclude that I am not committed Yeshua. By the way, it is not that you are confused is just that you cannot accept what I am saying so to make yourself holy you fabricate a lie to stir up people so that they can attack me and that is exactly what it appears you are doing. You own me another apology!
We are not called to be a christian, we are called to be followers of Yeshua. Nowadays, everyone calls themselves a christian, does that mean they are followers? Think about this question because many will probably say to God that they were a christian and God will respond to them... depart from me, I never knew you.
I am not on this site to solicit my simple book on seeking God, but maybe you should order it then you tell me what is important to me. Believe me, I will not get rich with this book and that is not my intention for the following reasons... because at times I do give it out for free and because people only want to read theology books and three because I do not want to use Yeshua's name to create books, which is why I do not push it. Put it this way, one day this book will be translated in another language to be given out for free to that country.
So, you need to apologize for the fabricated lies you create in your mind to falsely accuse, but like I said, I won't expect it from you, the way you write tells me that you cannot admit to your wrongs.
In the way people write one can detect it. Put it this way, let's see if he will apologize for fabricating this lie and if he does then he will be admitting that he fabricated this lie. Do you think he would admit to fabricating lies? Would you admit to fabricating lies? Think about it because admitting to it would damage a man's pride and expose him. If he apologizes then I will apologize for assuming that he would not admit to his wrong, nor apologize, nor admit to the two lies that he fabricated. If he say, that is not what he meant it goes to show that he cannot admit to it and there will be no need for me to apologize because it was an absolute statement that made, a statement that he fabricated in his mind, convincing himself of the lie that he fabricated.
Hmm, i would think he would definitely admit to fabricating lies, if you read the first post he made (the forum topic post) He talks about the value of humility, would i admit to fabricating lies? yes absolutely, i hate lies, so does God, i follow God and apart of that is hating evil and loving righteousness.
Plus God's going to judge everyone, so its stupid to fabricate lies, we must live in fear of God, if he is fabricating a lie, then UnitedwithChrist would be a fool and this goes for everyone.
Plus God's going to judge everyone, so its stupid to fabricate lies, we must live in fear of God, if he is fabricating a lie, then UnitedwithChrist would be a fool and this goes for everyone.
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Is not if he fabricated a lie, he did, his statement is a conclusive statement, but will not be able to substantiate it because it was a fabrication that he created and convinced him of this lie that he created to make a false accusation.
What happens is that when one disagrees or would not respond to a question to not admit to something though they can see it, they immediately go on the offense and attack, causing them to fabricate in their minds things that are untrue, this is also a sign of a narcissistic disorder behavior in a person, which everyone is guilty of and only God can strengthen one to admit to it, when one admits to it it is because God is working in them.
Is not if he fabricated a lie, he did, his statement is a conclusive statement, but will not be able to substantiate it because it was a fabrication that he created and convinced him of this lie that he created to make a false accusation.
What happens is that when one disagrees or would not respond to a question to not admit to something though they can see it, they immediately go on the offense and attack, causing them to fabricate in their minds things that are untrue, this is also a sign of a narcissistic disorder behavior in a person, which everyone is guilty of and only God can strengthen one to admit to it, when one admits to it it is because God is working in them.
For all the calvinism and arminism, a must see video. I am in agreement with Jacob Prasch on this topic who I consider a good teacher and even though I used another word it was through this video that I recently used the word quicken, a better choice of word than the one I previously used though I was conveying the same teaching which God made clear when he first spoke.
Let me make this clear, I am not posting this video to substantiate what I believe because prior to hearing Jacob Prasch speaking on this topic I posted what God made it clear through his word when he first spoke, in addition, that he desires all men to be saved, not just a few. One more this, though he is a good teacher, I do not praise any men, men who are lifted to high places need to be smashed to dust.
Let me make this clear, I am not posting this video to substantiate what I believe because prior to hearing Jacob Prasch speaking on this topic I posted what God made it clear through his word when he first spoke, in addition, that he desires all men to be saved, not just a few. One more this, though he is a good teacher, I do not praise any men, men who are lifted to high places need to be smashed to dust.
How often the commandment is performed does not erase the commandment. And neither does the place it is done or how many are involved . The old pagan temple order made with human hands where woman were separate from men and gentile also having a high wall that allowed only Jewish men had come to pass. Its a ceremonial law as a shadow whether two or three gather together or two or three million.
Both as one new law the hair covering for woman and hair uncovering for man with the use of bread and the blood of grapes is one sign to the angles as a representative glory to the whole world.
The temple is gone .The new order of ceremonial laws. to include the new order of for a kingdom of priest using water is no longer after a Jewish flesh .The time period God used their flesh to represent the flesh of all mankind had come to a end.
Many dismiss it as a fad of the day and not a commandment as a sign to the messengers angels. I would ask why not just remove that chapter?
0 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another .And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come. 1 Corinthians 11 31-34
Both as one new law the hair covering for woman and hair uncovering for man with the use of bread and the blood of grapes is one sign to the angles as a representative glory to the whole world.
The temple is gone .The new order of ceremonial laws. to include the new order of for a kingdom of priest using water is no longer after a Jewish flesh .The time period God used their flesh to represent the flesh of all mankind had come to a end.
Many dismiss it as a fad of the day and not a commandment as a sign to the messengers angels. I would ask why not just remove that chapter?
0 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another .And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come. 1 Corinthians 11 31-34
First, you appear to write with hostily, but you still did not answer my question, where in the Scriptures does it say that the communion is commandment? Now is a commandment/law or a commemoration to do it as often as possible to commemorate the crucifixion? So, answer my question and if it is a command find me a scriptural passage that tells us it is a command.