Is there ANYBODY ...OUT THERE!!!
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Actually not......and all that peddle a salvation that can be lost have no faith, trust or hope in Christ.....they also devalue, degrade and make Christ into an inept liar that cannot keep his word while peddling a self help guru false I keep myself saved lie......a good form of slavery peddled by false religions at the end of the day.
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It is utterly amazing and ignorant at the same time....that religionists, cainologists, salvation losers and Pharisess actually believe that one can quit being a son by birth..........I have yet to find one logical, spiirtual truth that states or teaches that my son by birth can do something that will change the fact that he is my son by birth...........that view personifies the word ignorance and goes beyond any logical, cognitive process!
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Sower and the seed parable shows man cannot save himself thru any of his efforts, but only the seed SOWN BY GOD will be harvested, the rest are burned up........chaff, tares.
MArk 4
14. The sower soweth the word.
15. And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; and when they have heard, straighway cometh Satan, and taketh away the word which hath been sown in them.
16. And these in like manner are they that are sown upon the rocky places, who, when they have heard the word, straightway receive it with joy;
17. and they have no root in themselves, but endure for a while; then, when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, straightway they stumble.
18. And others are they that are sown among the thorns; these are they that have heard the word,
19. and the cares of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
20. And those are they that were sown upon the good ground; such as hear the word, and accept it, and bear fruit, thirtyfold, and sixtyfold, and a hundredfold.
MArk 4
14. The sower soweth the word.
15. And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; and when they have heard, straighway cometh Satan, and taketh away the word which hath been sown in them.
16. And these in like manner are they that are sown upon the rocky places, who, when they have heard the word, straightway receive it with joy;
17. and they have no root in themselves, but endure for a while; then, when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, straightway they stumble.
18. And others are they that are sown among the thorns; these are they that have heard the word,
19. and the cares of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
20. And those are they that were sown upon the good ground; such as hear the word, and accept it, and bear fruit, thirtyfold, and sixtyfold, and a hundredfold.
Not to mention their Jesus is not the Jesus of the bible.....the one of the bible actually keeps his promises, remains true to his word and states clearly that he will finish and complete the work of faith he began, while saving to the uttermost, keeping by his power and giving the IRREVOCABLE gift of everlasting life....
Salvation losers, cainologists and workers for that must maintain the GIFT have rejected, denied and flat stomped on the truths above while counting the blood of Christ ineffectual....no faith, no hope and no trust in the scriptures!
Salvation losers, cainologists and workers for that must maintain the GIFT have rejected, denied and flat stomped on the truths above while counting the blood of Christ ineffectual....no faith, no hope and no trust in the scriptures!
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COULD IT BE THEY ARE NOT BORN AGAIN?? 
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It was very early on. In fact there is nothing BUT "replacement theology" in the early church fathers.
1st 2nd 3rd 4th etc centuries.
This is because of many reasons, but a few include:
1. The Apostles applied verses about Israel to the Church.
2. Church is called Abraham's seed by faith and inheriting the promises
3. The Jews were persecuting early christians, so its natural for there to be some tention
4. When the temple was destroyed in AD70 many Christians looked at it like "Hey wow, its over for these guys. We are it!"
I have stated my view in the past: I believe Jesus to be the ultimate FULFILLMENT of Israel. Out of Egypt I have called my son.
I believe that before the second coming, there will be a mass conversion of jews according to the flesh and they will be added to the Lord's church, just like on the day of pentecost.
1st 2nd 3rd 4th etc centuries.
This is because of many reasons, but a few include:
1. The Apostles applied verses about Israel to the Church.
2. Church is called Abraham's seed by faith and inheriting the promises
3. The Jews were persecuting early christians, so its natural for there to be some tention
4. When the temple was destroyed in AD70 many Christians looked at it like "Hey wow, its over for these guys. We are it!"
I have stated my view in the past: I believe Jesus to be the ultimate FULFILLMENT of Israel. Out of Egypt I have called my son.
I believe that before the second coming, there will be a mass conversion of jews according to the flesh and they will be added to the Lord's church, just like on the day of pentecost.
