I understand why you hold to the post-trib position. I regret demonstrating what was a lack of understanding of the complexities of the various rapture theories in a previous post.
Have you considered the fact that the harpazo event of Revelation 12:5 is described by most scholars as a separate harpazo event from the second coming at the end of Daniel’s 70th week? Is this the so called “secret rapture?”
The strong belief pre-trib proponents have in strict dispensationalism is used to separate the Church from the 70th week of Daniel and keep all current gentile believers out of the book of Revelation. I view this as incorrect as I know you do.
My position is not pre-trib or post-trib. I see the 1 Thess 4:14-17 harpazo occurring in accordance with the prewrath rapture theory.
The hope I have as a faithful believer is not for a pre-trib rapture or a pre-wrath rapture after the great tribulation. Could the antichrist have been already revealed to the current faithful remnant according to Acts 2:17? I’d say it’s possible.
I look forward to this glorification event mentioned in Rom. 8:17, and Rom. 8:30. Perhaps the same event is described in Daniel 12:1-3. I am focused on being faithful to God so I will obtain the inheritance promised to me in 1 Peter 1:4-5.
It is my view the Church is already seeing the signs mentioned in Matt. 24:4-8. I think the harpazo event of Rev. 12:5 will occur during this period following the glorification.
I view this glorification as occurring within Daniel’s 70th week during Matt. 24:4-8. The persecution that is described in Matt. 24:9-14 is analogous to the persecution the unfaithful church endures from Mystery Babylon described in Rev. 2:10 and Rev. 17:6.
It is the current unfaithful/lukewarm gentile church that will undergo further refining when persecution from Mystery Babylon comes.
Perhaps God is foreshadowing the harvest of Rev 14:14-16 with a harvest his glorified remnant will help reap according to Matt. 10:7, Matt. 24:14, Matt. 28:20, and Mark 16:5.
What makes you think Rev 12:5 is a rapture event of the Body of Christ?
A male child is singular and speaks of Christ.
There is not one Scripture or Prophetic word or vision or occurence in OT of a pre-trib rapture, including Enoch & Elijah.
ALL OT actual prophetic raptures are post-trib and pre-wrath.
These 3 prophets Noah, Daniel and Job completely destroy any false pre-trib rapture or secret rapture.
ALL references to the rapture make it
subject to His Second Coming and the Resurrection.
Bible Scholars are "respect of persons" and never should be given the time of day but should be suspect as they rely on intellect.
Bible Scholars constantly attacked Jesus and the Apostles and wreck havoc with Scripture to this day.
The Holy Spirit, Spirit of Truth, is the only Bible Scholar that we are to say amen to.
These
things also
belong to the wise.
It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment. - Prov 24
To have respect of persons
is not good: for for a piece of bread
that man will transgress. - Prov 28
My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. - James 2