Jesus is a God of conditional Love, not unconditional love.
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Acts 5:1-10 (KJV)
But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, [2] And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it , and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. [3] But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? [4] Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. [5] And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. [6] And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him . [7] And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. [8] And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. [9] Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. [10] Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
In the NT The Lord did did not show love for this husband and wife.
These 2 were killed by the Lotd ad not forgiven by your God of unconditional love.
But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, [2] And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it , and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. [3] But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? [4] Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. [5] And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. [6] And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him . [7] And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. [8] And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. [9] Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. [10] Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
In the NT The Lord did did not show love for this husband and wife.
These 2 were killed by the Lotd ad not forgiven by your God of unconditional love.
GOD said which is Jesus
Isaiah 45:7 (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things .
He also said
Amos 3:6 (KJV)
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it ?
Jesus created evil and he will send it out
It obvious understanding is the problem, understanding that Jesus is the God that does this
This don't sound like a God who loves everyone and whose love is unconditional
Isaiah 45:7 (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things .
He also said
Amos 3:6 (KJV)
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it ?
Jesus created evil and he will send it out
It obvious understanding is the problem, understanding that Jesus is the God that does this
This don't sound like a God who loves everyone and whose love is unconditional
Lets head to the NT
God love for certain people runs short in this verses
Hebrews 6:4-6 (KJV)
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Look at that mighty word Impossible!
God love for certain people runs short in this verses
Hebrews 6:4-6 (KJV)
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Look at that mighty word Impossible!
As to that final day, I cannot speak to God's judgement, for that belongs to Him.
But consider the prodical son, the son took His inheritance and left, loosing it all, thought Ill return to my father's land, in hope of at best being s servant.
But when we read this parable, we see that the father had been watching for his son, and welcomed him home with rejoicing.
Two things are seen here, first, that the father never stopped loving his son, but second, that the true inheritance is the fathers love.
I thought about your question here, and took it in prayer.
This is the answer I received.
God's love is not conditional,even we as worldly parents, will not stop loving our children because they fail or do wrong, sometimes we have to let that child go, but a parent never stops loving their child.
God's love is even greater and is unconditional, but His blessings and favor are conditional, as scripture speaks to this all through the bible.
For our being called to obedience is not about earning His love, but compleatly about getting our flesh and the world out of the way so we will see and know His love.
For one cannot walk two paths, one needs to choose the path.
Jesus!Life giving water, which is eternal life!
Or the world, flesh, sin death.
God Our Father also will chastize us, for the Father who loves His son will correct him.
Revelations is all about knocking his children upside the head, in order that they will return to Him.
All I can say is keep reading the scriptures and trusting understanding given through the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh, for we know now only in part, but soon we shall see face to face!For there are three things that last, faith, hope and love! The greatest of these being love.
God bless
pickles
But consider the prodical son, the son took His inheritance and left, loosing it all, thought Ill return to my father's land, in hope of at best being s servant.
But when we read this parable, we see that the father had been watching for his son, and welcomed him home with rejoicing.
Two things are seen here, first, that the father never stopped loving his son, but second, that the true inheritance is the fathers love.
I thought about your question here, and took it in prayer.
This is the answer I received.
God's love is not conditional,even we as worldly parents, will not stop loving our children because they fail or do wrong, sometimes we have to let that child go, but a parent never stops loving their child.
God's love is even greater and is unconditional, but His blessings and favor are conditional, as scripture speaks to this all through the bible.
For our being called to obedience is not about earning His love, but compleatly about getting our flesh and the world out of the way so we will see and know His love.
For one cannot walk two paths, one needs to choose the path.
Jesus!Life giving water, which is eternal life!
Or the world, flesh, sin death.
God Our Father also will chastize us, for the Father who loves His son will correct him.
Revelations is all about knocking his children upside the head, in order that they will return to Him.
All I can say is keep reading the scriptures and trusting understanding given through the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh, for we know now only in part, but soon we shall see face to face!For there are three things that last, faith, hope and love! The greatest of these being love.
God bless
pickles
Hmm so you say you are a christian correct? and a christian bases his faith on the love and grace of god which according to you is a lie. do you know who you seem like? The pharasee's they belive they were true followers of god because they knew scripture but their actions were anything but godly and christ like. They called Jesus a lier( Just like you) and nailed him to a cross for their own ambitions. Like them you know scripture but you do not get the message. I may be a new christian and i do not know the bible well but what you say is the truth god says is a lie. What kind of bible are you reading to get these ideas? Not only have we given you proof from scripture that god is love his word ir's self is a second witness. Honestly god has a lot more patience than i do, I have warned you to be careful what you say against god and yes out of anger of you calling my god a lier and such I will say these things because they greatly offend me. Not just me I have yet to see one person here agree with you and all who have tried over and over to show you your mistake. So what scripture will you throw at me to try to prove me wrong? do you realize how many suicidal people come here as a last resort for hope? do you realize if they listened and beleived you that just might be the final straw and kill themselvs?
2 Thessalonians 2:11 (KJV)
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Surely Not the God who loves everyone. Jesus would not do this?
Read your bibles and quit pretending God is not fair.
Ezekiel 18:25 (KJV)
Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
God loves and God hates
Ezekiel 18:25 (KJV)
Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Surely Not the God who loves everyone. Jesus would not do this?
Read your bibles and quit pretending God is not fair.
Ezekiel 18:25 (KJV)
Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
God loves and God hates
Ezekiel 18:25 (KJV)
Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
Peace
Jesus never sinned , Jesus obeyed his Fathers voice, OF course the Father loved him
We all would want a child who obeyed our every command. What's not to love about this
If hitler or stalin was your son would you love him?
Would you love your son if he raped boys and girls as this certain proesthood does now?
Jesus never sinned , Jesus obeyed his Fathers voice, OF course the Father loved him
We all would want a child who obeyed our every command. What's not to love about this
If hitler or stalin was your son would you love him?
Would you love your son if he raped boys and girls as this certain proesthood does now?
After the Lord kills, does He not then make alive? Or have you not read that He turns men to destruction, then says RETURN TO ME?
I ask you all. Why put so much on flesh and blood that profits not at all??? Even the richest or most justifiable person you all may know STILL GOES TO THE GRAVE ACCORDING TO FLESH AND BLOOD!
Do you really think that God will love you under any condition?
Revelation 9:15-18 (KJV)
And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. [16] And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. [17] And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. [18] By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
Why is the God of unconditional love allowing a third part of men to be killed
Revelation 9:15-18 (KJV)
And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. [16] And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. [17] And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. [18] By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
Why is the God of unconditional love allowing a third part of men to be killed
AoM
Why is the God of unconditional love killing to make alive?
The doctrine is a lie
If God loved everyone there should not be death, sin, wicked people
His love is unconditional, everything is suppose to be forgiven
Example
If I cheated on my wife 100 times God love is unconditional
If I killed a 1000 people God love is unconditional
If I molested 1000 boys like this certain church God love is unconditional
AOM
Something is not right in this unjust thinking
As long as w are flesh we can make mistakes.
Why is the God of unconditional love killing to make alive?
The doctrine is a lie
If God loved everyone there should not be death, sin, wicked people
His love is unconditional, everything is suppose to be forgiven
Example
If I cheated on my wife 100 times God love is unconditional
If I killed a 1000 people God love is unconditional
If I molested 1000 boys like this certain church God love is unconditional
AOM
Something is not right in this unjust thinking
As long as w are flesh we can make mistakes.
No i do not think he will love us unconditionally, I know this in my heart. You ask the definition of a christian- a christian is one who beleives Jesus is the son of god and beleives in what he says. He prays earnestly to god for himself and for others. He put's god first others second and himself last. But most of all he is living proof of god's love. How many times in the bible has god shown and said how much he loves us? Again like the pharesee's you know the scripture but not the message. And who are we to question god's authority to blind people. He blinded saul and because of it and his encounter with god became one of the best christians in the world. god allows us to live everyday is that not love? No wait that can't be right because if it was it would be loving us unconditionally. however Jesus died for us out of love No that cant be right either or he would LOVE US UNCONDITIONALLY. god isnt some guy sitting up there waiting to strike us ants with his wrath. I really hope god shows himself to you because i don't think you are a christian at all. your words certainly dont say anything about you being a christian al I have heard you say was directly against god and his word.
This doctrine of unconditional love is so wrong it would have you believe God love Saran , if this was the case why was satan kicked out of heaven unto the earth
Revelation 12:7-10,12 (KJV)
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. [9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. [10] And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. [12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Revelation 12:7-10,12 (KJV)
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. [9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. [10] And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. [12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.