Jesus IS King!!!
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Maybe I should suggest 2 Timothy 2:15 to you? 
Again figures of speech do not make anything LESS real. They help understand and make clear lessons that are being taught throughout the word of God - They do not CHANGE something into a LIE but enhance what is being taught.
You want to believe that this portion of scripture is teaching that Satan has to ask permission to do something to people . . hey, that's okay.
Again figures of speech do not make anything LESS real. They help understand and make clear lessons that are being taught throughout the word of God - They do not CHANGE something into a LIE but enhance what is being taught. You want to believe that this portion of scripture is teaching that Satan has to ask permission to do something to people . . hey, that's okay.
Maybe I should suggest 2 Timothy 2:15 to you?
Yet it is what you are attempting when you call a real story and allegory. That and you skip right past that part because it refutes your position. If what you are saying above were your position, and you were consistent in it, you'd see that God does only allow satan to do certain things, all to God's purpose, all to His glory and it is not the only incident ion Scripture. Do you recall the lying spirit God summoned to deceive Ahab through a false prophet? There are more instances. Albeit it is a difficult thing for us to comprehend in our finite minds.
Thanks for granting me permission.
That's because it is exactly what it is teaching, and again there are more passages that show this truth. God is Sovereign over satan as well, he does God's bidding.
Not sure why you are taking issue though. I believe you are one of the several on here who relentlessly attack those who expose WoF and other heretics along those lines. Didn't you call that kind of thing something like a witch hunt/heretic hunters and ridicule others for doing so? Yes, I believe that was you. Not to pick a fight, just noting a double standard and inconsistency.
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oh boy
let's set this straight, ok?
I am 100% AGAINST word of faith nonsense.
you have me mixed up with someone else for sure
there are those here who will not tolerate ANY kind of exposure of wrong teaching and call that a witch hunt. that is not me
what I am against, is gossip and Christians tolerating that
I find gossip one of the worst sins in the church and said as much some weeks back
please do not confuse me with the WOF bunch.
it's kind of funny, I was exactly just now reading this:
on another site (and I don't agree with everything on that site, but I sure agree with the above in quotes) and I thought to check this thread and so I did and found what you just wrote to me
I am totally against any kind of spiritual manipulation or Christians thinking they can do such things
it's witchcraft. anything that tries to alter reality through manipulation is witchcraft
I have suffered at the hands of so called Christians who have basically 'used' the Bible against others so I can assure anyone and everyone, I don't do such things
however, I am also NOT a Calvinist and I do not care for MacArthur or his teaching
no one has the truth market cornered. we have the Bible and we GROW in Christ. that means every one of us that God considers His own
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IF....Satan was NOT RESTRAINED, being God's and God's people mortal enemy, whose obsessive evil goal is to STEAL, KILL, and DESTROY any and ALL having to do with God's people... Wouldn't it be simple to understand that were he NOT RESTRAINED, his plans of complete annihilation of God's people in one fell swoosh would be evident? ~ Just sayin'...
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interesting preacher
you make a false assumption and I correct you. anything to say about that?
I don't think your memory is really that bad. I do think you know I don't hold to your Calvinist viewpoint but that's just too bad and it's not going to change
Calvin didn't write the Bible and neither did MacArthur
you make a false assumption and I correct you. anything to say about that?
I don't think your memory is really that bad. I do think you know I don't hold to your Calvinist viewpoint but that's just too bad and it's not going to change
Calvin didn't write the Bible and neither did MacArthur
Hi John,
I do understand what you're saying. Jesus will reign as king literally in Jerusalem sometime in the near future.
But why? How is He able to do this?
It's because He's already King of kings and Lord of lords.
Jesus went about preaching the Kingdom of God. We find that all throughout Matthew especially. How can we preach the gospel of the Kingdom of God if there wasn't a King?
I do understand what you're saying. Jesus will reign as king literally in Jerusalem sometime in the near future.
But why? How is He able to do this?
It's because He's already King of kings and Lord of lords.
Jesus went about preaching the Kingdom of God. We find that all throughout Matthew especially. How can we preach the gospel of the Kingdom of God if there wasn't a King?