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Here is one explanation of the Scripture........
[h=3]Psalms 69:9 Commentary - John Gill's Exposition...[/h]
[h=3]Psalms 69:9 Commentary - John Gill's Exposition...[/h]
J
i get frustrated with this culture we are in, seems like we are always being pushed to work more just to spend more and the more you buy into that the more you kill who you were really meant to be, what our Lord wants us to be. that probably makes no sense to anyone but me.
the lake thing sounds really good. sounds like what i need.
the lake thing sounds really good. sounds like what i need.
K
That is not correct as all we can do is plant the seed by giving others the truth in His word, from there they decide to accept what they heard and follow the Lord or not follow Him.
We are not required or told to make others decisions for them, as that has to be their decision to choose to accept His truth.
I can tell and show a person 100 times how the bible clearly shows multiple times that endurance come before salvation, but if they are still stuck in believing what they where taught by another it will blind them to that truth and cause them to continuously flip-flop those verses.
The bible speaks on how false doctrines will blind others to His simple truth in the word.
The bible says by 2 or 3 witness let a truth or conviction be established in Matthew 18:16, 2 Corinthians 13:1, and Deuteronomy 19:15. And Jesus (Matthew 10:22, Matthew 24:13), writer of Hebrews (Hebrews 10:36), and the Apostle Paul (2 Timothy 2:10) all three show that endurance comes before salvation/eternal life.
Three witnesses from the bible saying and showing endurance comes first, but how many times do you see people saying salvation comes first ??? People want to make the word of God more complicated then what it is !!!
Hmm...........no, I wouldn't do that. It is simply a link to Gill's Expositions........worked fine for me.......sorry 
(last part of the Article)
and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me:
the same persons that reproached the one reproached the other; and the reproaches of his divine Father were as cutting to him as if cast on himself; it went to his heart that his Father's house should be made an house of merchandise; that his doctrine should be despised, his worship neglected, and his glory lessened; to have the name of God, his ways and truth, evil spoken of, were not pleasing to him; he took all reproach of this kind to himself, and bore it becomingly; and yet showed zeal for his Father's glory, and indignation against those that reproached him
(last part of the Article)
and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me:
the same persons that reproached the one reproached the other; and the reproaches of his divine Father were as cutting to him as if cast on himself; it went to his heart that his Father's house should be made an house of merchandise; that his doctrine should be despised, his worship neglected, and his glory lessened; to have the name of God, his ways and truth, evil spoken of, were not pleasing to him; he took all reproach of this kind to himself, and bore it becomingly; and yet showed zeal for his Father's glory, and indignation against those that reproached him
Here it is so you won't get kicked off....
Psalms 69:9
For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up
Of the house of the sanctuary, as the Targum; that is, the temple, which was Christ's Father's house, where he was worshipped and dwelt; and zeal for his Father, and his glory in it, and indignation against those that made it an house of merchandise, inflamed him; put him upon driving out the buyers and sellers in it, whereby this passage had its accomplishment, ( John 2:14 John 2:17 ) ; and this may be applied to the church of God which is the house of God, of his building, and where he dwells; and zeal may design the fervent affection of Christ for it, for the doctrine, discipline, and salvation of it. His zeal for the Gospel appeared in his warm and lively preaching it, in his assiduity and constancy in it; in the wearisome journeys he took to spread it, in the risks he run, and dangers he exposed himself to, for the sake of it; in the miracles he wrought to confirm it, and in the care he took to free it from calumny and reproach: his zeal for the worship and discipline of God's house was shown by his asserting the purity of worship in spirit and truth; by his severe inveighing against the traditions, superstition, and will worship of men, and against the vices and corruptions of professors of religion, the Scribes and Pharisees: his zeal for the salvation of his people is easily seen in his suretyship engagements for them; in coming into this world to do the will of him that sent him; in his early regards unto it, and vehement desire, even of suffering death, in order to accomplish it, and in his voluntary and cheerful submission and obedience, even to the death of the cross: this zeal of his was according to knowledge, and was cordial, hearty, and unfeigned; and this "eat [him] up": inflamed like fire his spirit and affections; consumed his time and strength, and even life itself;
and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me:
the same persons that reproached the one reproached the other; and the reproaches of his divine Father were as cutting to him as if cast on himself; it went to his heart that his Father's house should be made an house of merchandise; that his doctrine should be despised, his worship neglected, and his glory lessened; to have the name of God, his ways and truth, evil spoken of, were not pleasing to him; he took all reproach of this kind to himself, and bore it becomingly; and yet showed zeal for his Father's glory, and indignation against those that reproached him; see ( Romans 15:1-3 ) .
Psalms 69:8
Psalms 69:10
Read Psalms 69:9
Psalms 69:9
For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up
Of the house of the sanctuary, as the Targum; that is, the temple, which was Christ's Father's house, where he was worshipped and dwelt; and zeal for his Father, and his glory in it, and indignation against those that made it an house of merchandise, inflamed him; put him upon driving out the buyers and sellers in it, whereby this passage had its accomplishment, ( John 2:14 John 2:17 ) ; and this may be applied to the church of God which is the house of God, of his building, and where he dwells; and zeal may design the fervent affection of Christ for it, for the doctrine, discipline, and salvation of it. His zeal for the Gospel appeared in his warm and lively preaching it, in his assiduity and constancy in it; in the wearisome journeys he took to spread it, in the risks he run, and dangers he exposed himself to, for the sake of it; in the miracles he wrought to confirm it, and in the care he took to free it from calumny and reproach: his zeal for the worship and discipline of God's house was shown by his asserting the purity of worship in spirit and truth; by his severe inveighing against the traditions, superstition, and will worship of men, and against the vices and corruptions of professors of religion, the Scribes and Pharisees: his zeal for the salvation of his people is easily seen in his suretyship engagements for them; in coming into this world to do the will of him that sent him; in his early regards unto it, and vehement desire, even of suffering death, in order to accomplish it, and in his voluntary and cheerful submission and obedience, even to the death of the cross: this zeal of his was according to knowledge, and was cordial, hearty, and unfeigned; and this "eat [him] up": inflamed like fire his spirit and affections; consumed his time and strength, and even life itself;
and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me:
the same persons that reproached the one reproached the other; and the reproaches of his divine Father were as cutting to him as if cast on himself; it went to his heart that his Father's house should be made an house of merchandise; that his doctrine should be despised, his worship neglected, and his glory lessened; to have the name of God, his ways and truth, evil spoken of, were not pleasing to him; he took all reproach of this kind to himself, and bore it becomingly; and yet showed zeal for his Father's glory, and indignation against those that reproached him; see ( Romans 15:1-3 ) .
Psalms 69:8
Psalms 69:10
Read Psalms 69:9
K
Nobody is denying that if fulfilled a prophecy from the OT, because we all know it did !!!
I was just expounded on how it had more meaning to it then just fulfilling a prophecy, as it showed how we are told in the bible how the works of light are not to mingle with the works of darkness. And we are called to drive out those who cause strive and division by spreading false doctrine (heresy) before they lead others down that road to damnation (1 Corinthians 5).
I'm just saying. I know there are many examples in Scripture where a passage from the NT confirms one written in the OT. We used to call this a "justification" of Scripture Truth and not so much a prophecy. But, I could be wrong. I will do more looking into this tomorrow just to be sure.
J
Ty for this; but man has ways of being philosophical and it kind of sounds like it, I used to read philosophies growing up, and it was like a see saw, missing the main points. Anger stems from some kind of hurt, if forgiveness harbors it does destroy or as this is saying "eats up the inner man" or his spirit. Though Christ by this paragraph, was hurt by these things and it caused anger, he knows how to clear it up, something we yet need to learn.
J
I don't see that as prophecey either, and no your not confusing. Sorry that a USA winner, with a deep voice, is wearing a dress, high heels, and makeup, now this is confusing to children, what a crime. To young hearts, an assault weapon to the mind. You know in other countries, they would be there one day, and gone the other.
J
Hmm...........no, I wouldn't do that. It is simply a link to Gill's Expositions........worked fine for me.......sorry
(last part of the Article)
and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me:
the same persons that reproached the one reproached the other; and the reproaches of his divine Father were as cutting to him as if cast on himself; it went to his heart that his Father's house should be made an house of merchandise; that his doctrine should be despised, his worship neglected, and his glory lessened; to have the name of God, his ways and truth, evil spoken of, were not pleasing to him; he took all reproach of this kind to himself, and bore it becomingly; and yet showed zeal for his Father's glory, and indignation against those that reproached him
(last part of the Article)
and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me:
the same persons that reproached the one reproached the other; and the reproaches of his divine Father were as cutting to him as if cast on himself; it went to his heart that his Father's house should be made an house of merchandise; that his doctrine should be despised, his worship neglected, and his glory lessened; to have the name of God, his ways and truth, evil spoken of, were not pleasing to him; he took all reproach of this kind to himself, and bore it becomingly; and yet showed zeal for his Father's glory, and indignation against those that reproached him
