King James Bible ONLY? Or NOT?

[John146]

I trust the KJV, NIV, NASB, YLT, ESV, CSB...seeing I have all these.

Plus, I have the Hebrew & Greek Interlinears by the late Dr. Jay P. Green, Sr., as well.

In the many, many places where they use different words, contain different truths, which one do you go with? Are you the one who determines which one to go with? Are you the final authority on truth?

 

[KJV1611]

So, you're saying the KJV was translated error free? These translators, who used manuscripts that had been copied many times before, were translated perfectly every time?

I have never found an error in the KJV. If there are errors, show me the errors... I'm a reasonable person and if there are bonafide errors I will SHUT my mouth lol.

 

[preacher4truth]

Huh????????

You were saved but not born of the Spirit??

#Wowzers

I will NEVER again say I have heard everything.

It just shows how deep the conditioning of KJVO effects the person.

His statement is absurd.

Put it this way, if there were no KJV what he said would not happen, therefore it cannot be truth. He is saying salvation isn't possible, but saying it is, then contradicts himself. Bottom line is it equals no salvation without the King James Version.

It's Bible-olatry. They learn these things from men, not from Scripture, then tell us how they get everything they believe from Scripture. This is totally untrue - they are taught these things from men, not from Scripture. I've witnessed this myself and it destroys people, makes them arrogant, then they go to church and congratulate one another for being the only ones who know the truth. Yep, it's cultic.

 

[preacher4truth]

I have never found an error in the KJV. If there are errors, show me the errors... I'm a reasonable person and if there are bonafide errors I will SHUT my mouth lol.

No, you won't shut your mouth and you'd never see the translational problems because men have conditioned your mind with excuses for those errors. You've been indoctrinated by men into KJVOnylism and have been rendered incapable of seeing it.

 

[SovereignGrace]

I have never found an error in the KJV. If there are errors, show me the errors... I'm a reasonable person and if there are bonafide errors I will SHUT my mouth lol.

Here's my response from page 3 in regards to Nebachudnezzar's saying about the son of a god...

I would venture to guess the KJV had it wrong, and here's why. Daniel has recorded the words of a pagan king. He does not know the God of Israel at that time, so for him to see this miracle, three Hebrews bound hand and foot, tossed into a fiery pit, so fiery the flames consumed those who tossed those Israelites into that pit, and he sees Someone with them, and they are walking around unbound, and the flames having no effect on them, neither their clothing.

After they come out, he proclaims their God to be the God his ppl, the Babylonians, would worship. However, in Daniel 4, Daniel gives him a stern warning that when he took credit for what God gave him, his kingdom, he'd lose his mind and go stark-raving mad. It was only after he looked upwards that God restored his mind unto him and he said, "At the end of that time, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven, and my sanity was restored. Then I praised the Most High; I honored and glorified him who lives forever. His dominion is an eternal dominion; his kingdom endures from generation to generation.All the peoples of the earth are regarded as nothing. He does as he pleases with the powers of heaven and the peoples of the earth. No one can hold back his hand or say to him: “What have you done?”At the same time that my sanity was restored, my honor and splendor were returned to me for the glory of my kingdom. My advisers and nobles sought me out, and I was restored to my throne and became even greater than before. Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and exalt and glorify the King of heaven, because everything he does is right and all his ways are just. And those who walk in pride he is able to humble."[vss 34-37]

So, to him, at the time of the fiery furnace, Jesus, or whoever was there with them(I've read where it was an angel of the Lord, not saying I agree with that, but just to show there are varying views), he did believe in gods, just not the God of Israel. So, to see just a miracle, he expressed this the best he could with the info he had.

 

[KJV1611]

Huh????????

You were saved but not born of the Spirit??

#Wowzers

I will NEVER again say I have heard everything.

You're saved, do you see the kingdom of heaven around you? If you can't then you're not born again.

John 3:3 KJV
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

 

[sparkman]

Here's my playlist regarding KJV Only.

Gail Replinger's videos are on the top of the playlist.

Her acrostic revelation from God that the KJV is corrupt is hilarious. A preschooler would be able to exercise better discernment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVXjw4jd61M&t=2s&index=1&list=PLpp6gpADZmIs0EtUKUi-YJvQC9u071Sg4

 

[Dino246]

Oh no! You might be spreading a false information here saying KJV was translated to those 7 late mss. During the time where the AV translators did translated the KJV has more than 5,000+ Greek extant and majority of them favored the KJV plus versions of the Bible like old latin, italic and quotations from the church fathers etc.

So what are those 7 mss? Can you name them so that I have to study/research them? or Is this only a copycat from Mr. Combs, White, Kutilek, Wallace etc...Thanks

Most of the manuscripts available today (between 5500 and 6000) were discovered after 1611. The KJV translators primarily used seven printed Greek editions: five of Erasmus, one of Stephanus, and one of Beza. They did not translate directly from manuscripts.

 

[SovereignGrace]

You're saved, do you see the kingdom of heaven around you? If you can't then you're not born again.

John 3:3 KJV
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Taken way outta context. The birth in the Spirit is God imparting Spiritual life to that person. He gives them eyes to see with, ears to hear with, a new heart and spirit. You're saying you were saved w/o any of this taking place. You are saying the KJV IS the word of God. That's the very apex, acme, Mount Everest of ignorance.

And yes, when I was saved, I saw the ppl of God differently. When He saved me, I couldn't, and still can't, get enough of His ppl. I love being around them. Before then, I would avoid them like the plague.

 

[preacher4truth]

Here's my playlist regarding KJV Only.

Gail Replinger's videos are on the top of the playlist.

Her acrostic revelation from God that the KJV is corrupt is hilarious. A preschooler would be able to exercise better discernment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVXjw4jd61M&t=2s&index=1&list=PLpp6gpADZmIs0EtUKUi-YJvQC9u071Sg4

People like Riplinger make a mint on others because they know how easily people are hoodwinked and they take advantage of them.

 

[KJV1611]

No, you won't shut your mouth and you'd never see the translational problems because men have conditioned your mind with excuses for those errors. You've been indoctrinated by men into KJVOnylism and have been rendered incapable of seeing it.

Not indoctrinated, I just started reading the KJV on my own because the NIV had so many problems.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Most of the manuscripts available today (between 5500 and 6000) were discovered after 1611. The KJV translators primarily used seven printed Greek editions: five of Erasmus, one of Stephanus, and one of Beza. They did not translate directly from manuscripts.

Apparently Satan drummed them up to thwart God's word, the KJV.

#Rolleyes

 

[KJV1611]

Here's my playlist regarding KJV Only.

Gail Replinger's videos are on the top of the playlist.

Her acrostic revelation from God that the KJV is corrupt is hilarious. A preschooler would be able to exercise better discernment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVXjw4jd61M&t=2s&index=1&list=PLpp6gpADZmIs0EtUKUi-YJvQC9u071Sg4

I have limited data, do you have any specifics on where she is wrong. I've heard of her but have never read or listened to any of her stuff.

 

[KJV1611]

Taken way outta context. The birth in the Spirit is God imparting Spiritual life to that person. He gives them eyes to see with, ears to hear with, a new heart and spirit. You're saying you were saved w/o any of this taking place. You are saying the KJV IS the word of God. That's the very apex, acme, Mount Everest of ignorance.

And yes, when I was saved, I saw the ppl of God differently. When He saved me, I couldn't, and still can't, get enough of His ppl. I love being around them. Before then, I would avoid them like the plague.

What is the context of John 3:3? Also where is the heaven of Matthew 13:33, and why is the kingdom heaven like leaven? And why did the womn hide the leaven in 3 measures of meal? What is the meal?

Matthew 13:33 KJV
Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

 

[preacher4truth]

Not indoctrinated, I just started reading the KJV on my own because the NIV had so many problems.

No, you're indoctrinated alright. All of you have to come up with how you discovered this by special revelation. Sorry, that's untrue and shows some self-deception in the mix. You were taught KJVO and that is a fact. You are being corrupted by the philosophies of men and cannot see it.

And how did you conclude the NIV had "problems" and then go to the KJV? Your assertion is purely subjective, and then it has to have added to it "God spoke to me via Divine Revelation and let me know this." You were taught to do this, many of you have the same story of your "conversion" to KJVO.

 

[SovereignGrace]

What is the context of John 3:3? Also where is the heaven of Matthew 13:33, and why is the kingdom heaven like leaven? And why did the womn hide the leaven in 3 measures of meal? What is the meal?

Matthew 13:33 KJV
Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

The kingdom of God/heaven I see as one-and-the-same. This kingdom is the body of believers, of which He rules over.

 

[John146]

No, you're indoctrinated alright. All of you have to come up with how you discovered this by special revelation. Sorry, that's untrue and shows some self-deception in the mix. You were taught KJVO and that is a fact. You are being corrupted by the philosophies of men and cannot see it.

And how did you conclude the NIV had "problems" and then go to the KJV? Your assertion is purely subjective, and then it has to have added to it "God spoke to me via Divine Revelation and let me know this." You were taught to do this, many of you have the same story of your "conversion" to KJVO.

Who told you that your Bible is not correct? Did you learn that from someone else or did you discover it?

 

[KJV1611]

No, you're indoctrinated alright. All of you have to come up with how you discovered this by special revelation. Sorry, that's untrue and shows some self-deception in the mix. You were taught KJVO and that is a fact. You are being corrupted by the philosophies of men and cannot see it.

And how did you conclude the NIV had "problems" and then go to the KJV? Your assertion is purely subjective, and then it has to have added to it "God spoke to me via Divine Revelation and let me know this." You were taught to do this, many of you have the same story of your "conversion" to KJVO.

I'ts not special revelation, it's just believing every single word in the bible. The straw that broke the camel's back for me was the contradiction related to the morning star.

[h=1]Isaiah 14:12New International Version (NIV)[/h][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]12 How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!

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[h=1]Revelation 2:28New International Version (NIV)[/h][FONT=&quot]28 I will also give that one the morning star.[/FONT]

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[preacher4truth]

Who told you that your Bible is not correct?

The KJVO cultists.

Did you learn that from someone else or did you discover it?

See the above answer.

 

[SovereignGrace]

I'ts not special revelation, it's just believing every single word in the bible. The straw that broke the camel's back for me was the contradiction related to the morning star.

Isaiah 14:12New International Version (NIV)

12 How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!


Revelation 2:28New International Version (NIV)

28 I will also give that one the morning star.

The Hebrew word 'Heylel' is used in english as 'Lucifer'. Lucifer was not Satan himself, but the Babylonian king(probably Belshazzer), and was possibly symbolic of Satan's fall. Now, 'Heylel' means "light-bringer" with that in quotations, as he did not literally bear light, as only God does that.

The true morning star in Revelation 2:28 is the Christ.