King James Bible ONLY? Or NOT?

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SovereignGrace

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We exalt the word of truth so the Savior of the truth can be worshiped.
But that goes for the ESV, NASB, NIV, YLT, ISV, CSB(HCSB), et al, too. All, including the KJV, are translations from the original languages. No translation is inspired.
 

John146

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But that goes for the ESV, NASB, NIV, YLT, ISV, CSB(HCSB), et al, too. All, including the KJV, are translations from the original languages. No translation is inspired.
Only one can be called the word of truth since they contain different words that lead to different truths. If not one, then none. Which is it?

Do you have a Bible you can trust every word to be true?
 

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Only one can be called the word of truth since they contain different words that lead to different truths. If not one, then none. Which is it?

Do you have a Bible you can trust every word to be true?
Again, your argument is w/o merit, w/o legs to stand on. The bible was written originally in Hebrew, Chaldean, and Greek. Some words have many differing meanings when translated to english. Some use one word, another uses another. Doesn't change the flow, the meaning of the text.

And there's not a bible I have I don't have complete trust in. If I didn't trust them, they wouldn't be on my book shelf.
 

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Only one can be called the word of truth since they contain different words that lead to different truths. If not one, then none. Which is it?

Do you have a Bible you can trust every word to be true?
He already said that. None translation is inspired.
 

John146

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Again, your argument is w/o merit, w/o legs to stand on. The bible was written originally in Hebrew, Chaldean, and Greek. Some words have many differing meanings when translated to english. Some use one word, another uses another. Doesn't change the flow, the meaning of the text.

And there's not a bible I have I don't have complete trust in. If I didn't trust them, they wouldn't be on my book shelf.
Do you not think that God can have His word translated into the English language with the exact English words He would use if the "originals" were in English?
 

John146

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Again, your argument is w/o merit, w/o legs to stand on. The bible was written originally in Hebrew, Chaldean, and Greek. Some words have many differing meanings when translated to english. Some use one word, another uses another. Doesn't change the flow, the meaning of the text.

And there's not a bible I have I don't have complete trust in. If I didn't trust them, they wouldn't be on my book shelf.
If I can offer you proof that your Bibles are in error, will you take them off your shelf and discard them?
 

John146

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Again, your argument is w/o merit, w/o legs to stand on. The bible was written originally in Hebrew, Chaldean, and Greek. Some words have many differing meanings when translated to english. Some use one word, another uses another. Doesn't change the flow, the meaning of the text.

And there's not a bible I have I don't have complete trust in. If I didn't trust them, they wouldn't be on my book shelf.
Look up 2 Samuel 21:19 in your Bibles and tell me who killed Goliath. My Bible states that David killed Goliath. What about yours?
 

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Do you not think that God can have His word translated into the English language with the exact English words He would use if the "originals" were in English?
But by being KJVO then non-speaking english folk are outta luck.
 

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Look up 2 Samuel 21:19 in your Bibles and tell me who killed Goliath. My Bible states that David killed Goliath. What about yours?
2 Samuel 21:19 was Goliath's brother being slain, not Goliath himself. Lullz...
 

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Look up 2 Samuel 21:19 in your Bibles and tell me who killed Goliath. My Bible states that David killed Goliath. What about yours?
David killed Goliath. 2 Samuel 21:19 was his brother's death.

You guys need learn to read a lot better.
 

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Look up 2 Samuel 21:19 in your Bibles and tell me who killed Goliath. My Bible states that David killed Goliath. What about yours?
All the bibles I looked up on biblegateway says David killed Goliath in 1 Samuel 17:51.
 

SovereignGrace

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Look up 2 Samuel 21:19 in your Bibles and tell me who killed Goliath. My Bible states that David killed Goliath. What about yours?
Can you show me a bible that says someone other than David killed Goliath in 1 Samuel 17:51?

Hmmmmm???
 

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Look up 2 Samuel 21:19 in your Bibles and tell me who killed Goliath. My Bible states that David killed Goliath. What about yours?
And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.[2 Samuel 21:19 KJV]

Lullz. You're making my job much easier for me.
 

John146

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But by being KJVO then non-speaking english folk are outta luck.
Well, I'm only concerned with the English language. And besides, God never promised to preserve His words in every language. For thousands of years, God only spoke to the nation of Israel in their language.
 

John146

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David killed Goliath. 2 Samuel 21:19 was his brother's death.

You guys need learn to read a lot better.
I agree, David killed Goliath and Elhanan killed Goliath's brother. But that's not what the new trusted versions read.

2 Samuel 21:19

KJV And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

ESV And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

NASB There was war with the Philistines again at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.

HCSB Once again there was a battle with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite. The shaft of his spear was like a weaver’s beam.
 

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And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.[2 Samuel 21:19 KJV]

Lullz. You're making my job much easier for me.
Yep, the KJV is the truth. Stick with it. It will never fail you.
 

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Well, I'm only concerned with the English language. And besides, God never promised to preserve His words in every language. For thousands of years, God only spoke to the nation of Israel in their language.
Again, you're speaking from both sides of your mouth. Why did God preserve His word in english only? Were the Russians, Egyptians, Syrians, Asians, Germans, French not up to snuff like us english speaking folk? Did God not see them in the same light as us english speaking folk, so He decided to not preserve His word in their languages, too?

Now, where can you find, in the bible, where promised to preserve His word in english only.

The levels of stupidity in our ranks blows my mind!!! :mad:
 

John146

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Again, you're speaking from both sides of your mouth. Why did God preserve His word in english only? Were the Russians, Egyptians, Syrians, Asians, Germans, French not up to snuff like us english speaking folk? Did God not see them in the same light as us english speaking folk, so He decided to not preserve His word in their languages, too?

Now, where can you find, in the bible, where promised to preserve His word in english only.

The levels of stupidity in our ranks blows my mind!!! :mad:
Why didn't God give His original words in the language of other nations? Why didn't He give His words in the Egyptian language?

God promised to preserve His words for us. Where are they?