King James Bible ONLY? Or NOT?

[SovereignGrace]

So, if I take the KJV and translate it to my native language, I got a better word of God than the KJV is, because translations is better than original Right?

Also, if translation is better than the original, I wonder why the KJV translators used the original languages and not Latin, the Vulgate had to be better than Hebrew and Greek.

But still, I am suspicious John146 is joking a little.

There's no logic to their logic. They throw things against the wall to what sticks.

 

[John146]

Check Post #636

Trofimus and Sovereign Grace, have you searched your websites for an answer to post #636?

 

[SovereignGrace]

Trofimus and Sovereign Grace, have you searched your websites for an answer to post #636?

It has to do with which manuscripts they used.

Now, by what authority do you aver that the KJV is Gid's preserved word for english speaking folk?

 

[Dino246]

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But still, I am suspicious John146 is joking a little.

I suspect that he isn't joking... and that has me concerned.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Trofimus and Sovereign Grace, have you searched your websites for an answer to post #636?

The Bishops and Geneva bibles state the same thing in 2 Samuel 21:19. How do you know one of them is not God's preserved word for english speaking folk? Maybe the KJV is corrupted too, because its a newer version of a english translated bible.

 

[SovereignGrace]

I suspect that he isn't joking... and that has me concerned.

Oh, he's not joking, even a little. His eyes are closed to seeing his errorenous stance.

 

[trofimus]

Trofimus and Sovereign Grace, have you searched your websites for an answer to post #636?

No... I do not know which websites to search

And actually I do not think that this place is important.

Brother or somebody with the same name or cousin, who cares.

There are more important verses like Messianic prophecies that KJV destroyed, that should worry you instead of some name.

 

[Dai3234]

Trump was only going nukeuler on the media. I don't see that as problemistic.

I'm not having a dig but nuclear and problematic. For next time. If there is one.

 

[John146]

The Bishops and Geneva bibles state the same thing in 2 Samuel 21:19. How do you know one of them is not God's preserved word for english speaking folk? Maybe the KJV is corrupted too, because its a newer version of a english translated bible.

They are in the line of God's perfect work. The KJV is the seventh in line of God's perfect completion of His word.

 

[SovereignGrace]

They are in the line of God's perfect work. The KJV is the seventh in line of God's perfect completion of His word.

So then you're not a KJVO.

 

[John146]

No... I do not know which websites to search

And actually I do not think that this place is important.

Brother or somebody with the same name or cousin, who cares.

There are more important verses like Messianic prophecies that KJV destroyed, that should worry you instead of some name.

Please share these errors.

 

[SovereignGrace]

They are in the line of God's perfect work. The KJV is the seventh in line of God's perfect completion of His word.

Now, by what authority do you know the KJV is God's preserved word for english speaking folk?

I think I know your answer before I ask it, but I am curious of your answer.

 

[John146]

So then you're not a KJVO.

The other six were not God's completed perfect work. God number of completion is seven.

 

[SovereignGrace]

The other six were not God's completed perfect work. God number of completion is seven.

By what authority can you base this claim?

 

[Dai3234]

In the 1611 KJV is it neberkudnezzer or neberkudonosor?

 

[SovereignGrace]

In the 1611 KJV is it neberkudnezzer or neberkudonosor?

I have never owned a 1611...

 

[trofimus]

They are in the line of God's perfect work. The KJV is the seventh in line of God's perfect completion of His word.

1. It is not 7th

2. Even if it was 7h or 77th or 777th, it does not matter at all.

 

[notbythesword]

I agree, David killed Goliath and Elhanan killed Goliath's brother. But that's not what the new trusted versions read.

2 Samuel 21:19

KJV And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

ESV And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

NASB There was war with the Philistines again at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.

HCSB Once again there was a battle with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite. The shaft of his spear was like a weaver’s beam.

Since I primarily (but not always) read from the HCSB, I’ll just use it as an example. You’re asking why we don’t see the “correct” translation of your KJV’s “the brother of” Goliath when reading 2 Samuel 21:19…it’s simply because it’s not in the original Hebrew! Your KJV translation is actually the one that is not true to text in regards to this verse. Words that are shown inside brackets [like this], mean later added assumptions and opinions, not what the text literally has written down.

For some examples, you can check out the following links for a quick reference.

2 Samuel 21:19 Interlinear: And the battle is again in Gob with the Philistines, and Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim, the Beth-Lehemite, smiteth a brother of Goliath the Gittite, and the wood of his spear is like a beam of weavers.

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/2sa21.pdf

As you can see, there is no “the brother of” in the original Hebrew. However, the HCSB does include a footnote that lets us know that 1 Chronicles 20:5 speaks of it indeed being the brother, while at the same time remaining true to text. I believe you can find translations that vary in any Bible, this would not be a good example for you to use though. Below is the verse in question, with the HCSB and KJV side by side.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 samuel 21:19&version=HCSB;KJV

By the way, if “the brother of” is not found in the original Hebrew of 2 Samuel 21:19, yet you’re okay with the KJV “adding” the “assumed” meaning in for you (regardless if true or not)…doesn’t this mean that your arguments about other translations which do the same, become inconsistent?

 

[Meggido]

The best translation/version of the Bible for anyone, is the one they will keep reading.


Party is over, will the KJO folks get the lights?

 

[preacher4truth]

Moreover, when God translates something, the translation is always better than the original.

1. Saul's kingdom was translated to David. To translate the kingdom from the house of Saul, and to set up the throne of David over Israel and over Judah, from Dan even to Beersheba."

2. "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:"

3. "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death;

I see. It's no longer a wonder why and how you arrive at many misinterpretations of Scripture.

Folks, this is none other than J T Chick "theology."

Take a gander at where the absurdity of john146 comes from. Just WOW:

https://www.chick.com/reading/books/158/158_30.asp

and he wants to talk about website theology...lolzzzzzzzzzzz