King James Bible ONLY? Or NOT?

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KJV1611 said:
Ok lets start with one that's easy to see. Based on the use of the number 4 in the KJV, why did Jesus come from the tribe of Judah instead of the 3rd son Levi?
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This particular example is not exclusively in the KJV. Jesus was a descendant of Judah in every translation.

I mentioned this in a previous thread... any number patterns which you claim make the KJV special must exist in the original languages or they have no special meaning. I am absolutely certain that God did not inspire any numeric patterns in the KJV which aren't in other languages/translations. There may be such patterns, but not by God's design, and therefore of no particular value.
 
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I look for what is historical and what is literature, when they support each other, then you have two witnesses, that support each other, if they don't support each, then most likely they are not true
 
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Dino246 said:
This particular example is not exclusively in the KJV. Jesus was a descendant of Judah in every translation.

I mentioned this in a previous thread... any number patterns which you claim make the KJV special must exist in the original languages or they have no special meaning. I am absolutely certain that God did not inspire any numeric patterns in the KJV which aren't in other languages/translations. There may be such patterns, but not by God's design, and therefore of no particular value.
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So based on every other translation, why did Jesus come from the tribe of Judah instead of the tribe of Levi?
 
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Why are there 4 gospels and why is John's gospel different from the other gospels? Why was the 4th like the son of God?
 
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Why are there 4 gospels and why is John's gospel different from the other gospels? Why was the 4th like the son of God?
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Why do you think such things are exclusive to the KJV? It is your claim that such patterns are what "confirm" the KJV as a special translation. I don't see any such evidence yet.
 
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Why are there 4 gospels and why is John's gospel different from the other gospels? Why was the 4th like the son of God?
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All four gospels are different from each other when it comes to Jesus.
 
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Why are there 4 gospels and why is John's gospel different from the other gospels? Why was the 4th like the son of God?
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First three were using the same source, the 4th one was written independently.

I do not understand your last question.
 
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trofimus said:
Tell me :)
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Because Judah was the fourth son. The number 4 points to spritual things. Jesus is our spiritual high priest after the order of Melchisedek, he did not come from Levi because Levi (3rd son) was an earthly priest. Melchisedec was not a 3 dimensional being, he was supernatural... actually he was the pre-incarnate Christ.
 
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Dino246 said:
Why do you think such things are exclusive to the KJV? It is your claim that such patterns are what "confirm" the KJV as a special translation. I don't see any such evidence yet.
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Have you ever seen newer translations translate the same Greek word to two different English words to fit a pattern? I haven't.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Because Judah was the fourth son. The number 4 points to spritual things. Jesus is our spiritual high priest after the order of Melchisedek, he did not come from Levi because Levi (3rd son) was an earthly priest. Melchisedec was not a 3 dimensional being, he was supernatural... actually he was the pre-incarnate Christ.
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How is this view specific to the KJV only?
 
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the Bible I have is the KJVNKJVNIVNNIVNLTNASBAMP1911
 
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trofimus said:
First three were using the same source, the 4th one was written independently.

I do not understand your last question.
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The 4th was like the son of God because the number 4 points to the heavenly or spiritual realm.
 
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John is distinctly different.
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Yes I would agree very different but when comes to the death and raising up of Jesus, the details in all four gospels are clearly different, kinda odd.
 
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trofimus said:
How is this view specific to the KJV only?
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Did you figure out the number 4 points to spiritual things using the newer translations or the Greek and Hebrew? I did't figure out until I started reading the KJV.
 
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Dagallen said:
Yes I would agree very different but when comes to the death and raising up of Jesus, the details in all four gospels are clearly different, kinda odd.
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The fourth is always different.. look at the children who bare the 12 children of Israel... Rachael was the 4th and she's the one Jacob truly loved with all his heart. :)
 
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Daniel 7:23 KJV
Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

When did the 4th kingdom start.... not future lol. It's a spiritual kingdom that started when heaven came to earth... at the time of 1) Matthew 2) Mark 3) Luke 4) John.
 
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The fourth is always different.. look at the children who bare the 12 children of Israel... Rachael was the 4th and she's the one Jacob truly loved with all his heart. :)
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That's a good point, never gave it much thought.
 
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I've got to board my plane and I am on vacation for the rest of this week and all of next week! Praise the Lord! I'll chck back in later. :)
 
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