King James Bible vs. Modern Translations (Honoring The Deity of Jesus Christ)

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Oak

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Do you also believe God controls the weather through the firmament?

Ok, then we are fine. We just have our convictions and differing opinions. I try not to be offensive or a better word offend the conscience of others when I can help it. But, I am not always successful in that, Lqtms. Oak, I am a literalist & a Creationist, which means I hold to "God is" as my foundation of thought and "God said" as my approach. I find evidence to be a peculiar word when coupled with proof against belief & faith for truth. Anyway, this has been a fairly interesting last couple of pages. Enjoy Christmas, God bless you.
 
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Guidance from the original author? Who is that, RA? I DONT THINK HE WILL BE GIVING ANY GUIDANCE! Neither will Iusaaset or Atum.
Well, you do not believe that the Bible is the word of God. Not sure why you're even here, unless you're interested in learning about it.
 
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Who is going to teach me? You? Let's see it.
 
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Who is going to teach me? You? Let's see it.
Jag...I made a simple response to your simple...and I do mean "simple" reply. I will not allow myself to become involved in a battle of wits with you...as I can plainly see that you are unarmed...
 
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
 
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Why are you still trying? I just showed you the mystery of God. You still have something to teach me? Did you not believe me? Go read!
 
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ServantStrike

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Why are you still trying? I just showed you the mystery of God. You still have something to teach me? Did you not believe me? Go read!
What, this mess right here?

It has an ending. I assure you but telling you about it would be putting your chances in heaven and with God to death.
Yeah, I'll pass.

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
You know who had something to say about this? Solomon.

Proverbs 26
11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
 

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Knowledge is how our brains make the best choice along with evidence in our past. So if you found a chocolate bar in a certain drawer you would go back to the same drawer the next day expecting a chocolate bar based on the FACT you found one there yesterday.

knowledge is power. I feel many things in the Bible were written in due to lack of knowledge. If the Bible said the earth was 4.5 billion years old nobody would doubt it.

You know the wind is powered by the FACT that hot air rises faster than cold air.

The human experience is based on why? Your brain is not designed to worship is is designed to figure out more about your world, feed your stomach and breed.

What you have to remember is this...We do not need to know everything about everything...That is the mind-set of today's society...we often allow ourselves to buy in that mentality. We have in the Bible what God wants us to know....He gave us what HE has decided we need. If it proves to be not enough for us...then that is just too bad. If it doesn't answer all of your questions then perhaps you need to spend a little more time reading and asking for guidance from the original author. He will grant understanding if a person isn't lazy enough to do some work.

As far as the Catholic church don't worry about them. Concern yourself with yourself...You are the one who is responsible for your own faith.

We have what we have. That's it. You seem to think it is complete or does not give you all the answers. Keep in mind that in other countries people actually go to prison for simply having a small portion of the Bible. So, should consider yourself fortunate to be living in a country that allows you to have a Bible.

But...hey...that's just me...
 
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You can use whatever proverb you want. You have no idea they are even true. I have showed you truth however and you reject it. Typical...why not ask the question as why the previous races have hands in the bible? Why does the creation and 6000 years coincide with the beginning of the Egyptian race when everyone knows it actually goes back millions of years?Why is genesis grafted upon egyptian gods? Ra(creator), Isaaset(grandmother of all living...As well as the tree of life)...Ka, Ra-Atum, Atum....etc
 
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You can use whatever proverb you want. You have no idea they are even true. I have showed you truth however and you reject it. Typical...why not ask the question as why the previous races have hands in the bible? Why does the creation and 6000 years coincide with the beginning of the Egyptian race when everyone knows it actually goes back millions of years?Why is genesis grafted upon egyptian gods? Ra(creator), Isaaset(grandmother of all living...As well as the tree of life)...Ka, Ra-Atum, Atum....etc
You haven't shown me anything. This is the first you've mentioned ancient cultures in any depth.

And no, you're wrong. I know them to be true, it's called faith.
 
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Then throw in the theory of evolution which is founded upon genetics evolve intelligence. ...When it is actually the other way around. Our spiritual evolution controls the physical evolution of our bodies. Why do you think apes are so different? Because they are our ancestors? No! We evolved along side each other but we are a product of spiritual evolution. It seems someone is trying to slow or stop our current spiritual break out into the next evolutionary race closer to perfection.
 

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speculation is not proof. Of course the culture is going to have similar stories because how many people were on the planet back then? They had nobody else to idolize except Egypt. Then later on the Romans and Catholicism is born! But first they had to rework the history hence why the Bible will never be what it was intended to be. Even the dead sea scrolls had outside influence because the writers went to live amongst themselves because their beliefs did not match those of the jews in Jerusalem and other areas.

You can use whatever proverb you want. You have no idea they are even true. I have showed you truth however and you reject it. Typical...why not ask the question as why the previous races have hands in the bible? Why does the creation and 6000 years coincide with the beginning of the Egyptian race when everyone knows it actually goes back millions of years?Why is genesis grafted upon egyptian gods? Ra(creator), Isaaset(grandmother of all living...As well as the tree of life)...Ka, Ra-Atum, Atum....etc
 
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speculation is not proof. Of course the culture is going to have similar stories because how many people were on the planet back then? They had nobody else to idolize except Egypt. Then later on the Romans and Catholicism is born! But first they had to rework the history hence why the Bible will never be what it was intended to be. Even the dead sea scrolls had outside influence because the writers went to live amongst themselves because their briefs did not match those of the jews in Jerusalem and other areas.
I think without faith that God has preserved his word, you're going to have a very hard time defending your position to an atheist/neo-paganist (not sure which jag is yet).
 

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I want to know how it is Gods word when he never wrote the Bible? Christianity will never have what the Muslims claim to have and that is the word of God.

Anyone can freely find out how the Bible was written using the internet. It used to be that only those that went to seminary school would really know. Religion is taking a serious down turn especially creation, America is the only country that has a somewhat high percentage of creationists and the majority of those probably have never read the Bible.

The number of true so called Bible believing Christians is really low, they often believe in aliens or how the world and .gov is out to get them such as Peter Ruckman

I think without faith that God has preserved his word, you're going to have a very hard time defending your position to an atheist/neo-paganist (not sure which jag is yet).
 
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Labels...I'm a christian just like you. Because I don't take heed to the Roman or egyptian reformation I am wrong? I don't think so. The spirit still guides you even without scriptures. The word God is an empty shell. Think of God like the thing that dominates your life. Broken relationship and heartbroken God can be Love and in that God takes away your pain. God is our tool of the spirit. God delivers us from bondage not into bondage.
 
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I want to know how it is Gods word when he never wrote the Bible? Christianity will never have what the Muslims claim to have and that is the word of God.

Anyone can freely find out how the Bible was written using the internet. It used to be that only those that went to seminary school would really know. Religion is taking a serious down turn especially creation, America is the only country that has a somewhat high percentage of creationists and the majority of those probably have never read the Bible.

The number of true so called Bible believing Christians is really low, they often believe in aliens or how the world and .gov is out to get them such as Peter Ruckman
Ah... I see.


So I've now seen it all. Two unbelievers arguing about the bible. You probably shouldn't list your spiritual status as "Christian" in your profile. It's very misleading.
 

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I think that unless you give up the internet, tv and any other information source your mind will not be pure with God. It is impossible as too many realities pop up everywhere you go.

Unless you had no other source of media beside the Bible you are not going to get the fullest amount of truth from it. How could you? Everything taught contradicts the Bible thus homeschooling
 
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I'm a believer....just because I believe with spirit and not what man has taught me doesn't make my beliefs any less true.
 

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I read the Bible everyday, I know more than most professing christians will ever know about God. I just enjoy reading it, best book ever written in many categories. Perhaps if more people read it the world would be a better place.

To believe every word is a different story.

Ah... I see.


So I've now seen it all. Two unbelievers arguing about the bible. You probably shouldn't list your spiritual status as "Christian" in your profile. It's very misleading.
 

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I think that unless you give up the internet, tv and any other information source your mind will not be pure with God. It is impossible as too many realities pop up everywhere you go.

Unless you had no other source of media beside the Bible you are not going to get the fullest amount of truth from it. How could you? Everything taught contradicts the Bible thus homeschooling
Oak,

Since you believe we should all give up the internet to be right with God,
how about YOU give up the internet first.

You should give up the internet as an example to the rest of us.
Yeah... I think that's the only way you can help us.

Be our leader.

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