King James Bible vs. Modern Translations (Honoring The Deity of Jesus Christ)

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I agree:)

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I think you confuse believe with application. All of the Bible is for us, for our admonition & our learning, but all of the bible is not to us or about us. Nothing wrong with believing every word, they are inspired, given, and profitable. to get the profit out of it we must believe and do Acts 17:11 for Rms 12:2 & 1 Thess 4:11-12, right? Please, use a kjbible if you look those up so we are sharing in the same words.
 
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You are producing scriptures about yourself....how long will you walk blind my brother?
 
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You cannot put you foot on a spirit no matter what scriptures you chose to use. I am only bound by the spiritual virtues...love, faith, charity, patience....etc
The first and foremost spiritual virtue is always to love God more than anything else--including yourself.

Luke 10:25-28 ¶ And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
 

ChosenbyHim

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you say this but no one cares save a handful of kjv-onlyists. the rest of us wish you would just stop.

Well Nautilus, what does that tell you then?


The Bible prophesied that the time would come when there would be a falling away (2 Thess. 2:3). The Bible prophesied of those in the Body of Christ would no longer endure sound doctrine (2 Tim. 4:3). We are in the apostasy right now before the imminent return of the Lord Jesus Christ.


So it is not surprising for me to read that arrogant statement of yours. You better start developing a love for the truth Nautilus. Time is real short.


Bible Doctrine is very important. The Bible was mainly written for the purpose of Doctrine.
 
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Well there is much here that is wrong but I think I'll stick with you are still producing scriptures about u our own relationship with God.
 
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Exodus....Moses and Aaron smite the Pharisee until he releases the people out of bondage. They are lead out of Egypt unto Moses by another bondage.
 
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*Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and*worshipped and serve....As you can see the word "who" is used not "whom". A continuation would be "whom"
Hmmmm, it seems to be a translation issue, that's Early Modern English.

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Here's the MLV (Modern Literal Version), it's substantially closer to the original Greek:

Rom 1:25 They exchanged the truth of God into a lie and worshiped and gave divine service to the created thing rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

So here's the original to avoid confusion:

ΠΡΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΥΣ 1:25 οιτινες μετηλλαξαν την αληθειαν του θεου εν τω ψευδει και εσεβασθησαν και ελατρευσαν τη κτισει παρα τον κτισαντα ος εστιν ευλογητος εις τους αιωνας αμην
 

ChosenbyHim

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And seminary is kind of necessary if someone is getting into Christian ministry.

Hello there Tintin,

seminary is not necessary for a Christian who wants to get into the ministry. In fact, you won't find any seminaries in Scripture.


Any Christian that discerns that he has a call of God on his life to get into the ministry, that man should spend diligent study and a lot of time in the Scriptures, he should also develop a strong prayer life, and for application, he should start going out into the market place and streets, reaching out to the lost with the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. And he can share the Gospel of Jesus Christ in a number of ways. He can begin to do door to door witnessing, he can go out and hand out Gospel tracts, he can preach on the streets, he can hold up Gospel signs while people are passing by, there is great opportunity for that man who desires to get into the ministry. But for one thing, he definitely does not need to go to a seminary for training for the ministry. Christians who go to seminaries are actually having their faith in the Bible destroyed. Because the seminaries are full of Alexandrian philosophy and they are being taught to set themselves as the final authority over what God said.


In other words, instead of them submitting themselves to the authority of God's holy word. The students in the seminaries are taught to sit in judgment over the word of God, hence, they become their own final authority. Their intellect and higher Christian education becomes their final authority.


Therefore that man should simply trust in the Lord to prepare him for the ministry and remain diligent to read and study God's word. And to be about the Lord's work in getting the Gospel out into the community.
 
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I just said earlier that God is Love. Love is God. God is not the Creator. Read John 4. GOD IS LOVE! Now go back and reread your scripture and see who is wrong in romans.
 
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I just said earlier that God is Love. Love is God. God is not the Creator. Read John 4. GOD IS LOVE! Now go back and reread your scripture and see who is wrong in romans.
1 John 2:22-23 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
 
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Yes, saying that the aramaic letters must be translated into Greek then into English before it is the word of God is not sensible.
the ariginal aramaic letters that the greek was translated FROM are still with us

interestingly the aramaic letters have been translated directly into English and match pretty closely with the King James except for the word HELL never existed, it was grave
and LORD means landowner in Greek, the original was Yahweh, Gods real name
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KNEEL in prayer was in the Bible hundreds of times but someone changed it to BLESS witch doesnt mean the same thing anymore

so to say the king JAmes is best translation is not correct, we have the ORIGINALS without any translations and those are the ones God preserved.

the original letters the apostles wrote and the original aramaic old testament Jesus read.

that has been preserved, that was the promise David said

Thy word, o Lord , thout wilt preserve forever.

there are aramaic English rtransaltaions that are pretty close to King James, but yo can actually get a free Bible
E-sword.com
and use KJversion + and just highlight each wrod and it brings up the original greek word wich is pretty close

but any Bible has the Sabbath, the state of the dead that when they die they do NOT go to heaven (read story of LAzarus) and JEsus himself was in the grave 3 days and also he did not have his sould left in HELL (GRAVE)
hell was a greek invention and not accurate.

Also worship should be KNEELING in prayer go click on the word BLESS and it says KNEEL

every time

Kjv is our best translation except for the syriac and in every version it will tell us.
the disobedient will not see God
those who teach others to break the law will not see God
and the last survivors will have the faith of JEsus (the whole Bible, because Jesus faith was all from the OT) plus the new testament
the WHOLE BIBLE

thats it
 
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I never denied anyone but your beliefs towards me.
 
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I just said earlier that God is Love. Love is God. God is not the Creator. Read John 4. GOD IS LOVE! Now go back and reread your scripture and see who is wrong in romans.
Kind of neuters God's other attributes doesn't it?

Exodus 15:3
The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

Exodus 20:4
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;


God is loving, he is not pure love. He is holy and does not tolerate sin, which is why the cross is so important.


Hebrews 12
25See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 29For our God is a consuming fire.
 
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There are several proofs that the greek original was translated FROM aramaic letters

Mark 5:41 And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her,
Talitha cumi; (ARAMAIC) which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise.

King James said we Translated this from aramaic as DAMSEL I SAY UNTO THEE ARISE

they admit it

the greek came from the originnal aramaic


also

Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? (ARAMAIC) that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

so twice in two different books they admitted translating the greek FROM ARAMAIC

so grek is not the original

The Disciples spoke Aramaic
Jesus spoke Aramaic
The Disciples wrote Aramaic
the greek church translated from aramaic

the original syrian aramaic scrolls and the churches have not changed for 2000 years

they are still there

er

were still there
the war against syria, where the US support al quada to invade syria have killed over 100,000 Sabbath keeping Original Bible holding syrians
there are some in Iran Iraq (all dead) and lebanon
oops lebanese christians all dead

they still have to go into Iran and kill those

but that wont take long...

Now you know what the wars are all about
the Bible
the original
the enemy is trying to wipe out all trace of the Bible

So God had it printed in the US in 2012

too late
we have it now.
God is Good,

Aramaic English new testament is now available.
I dont know these guys at all except that God helped them print the original uncanged Bible before the last syrian scrolls were destroyed.

God said he would keep his original word forever...

Kjv aint bad as long as you click on the Strongs numbers to find the mistranslations on hell, Sabbath
and Kneeling in worship.
 
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How many times have I been denied?
Is that a really an important question?

James 4:14 Whereas ye know not what [shall be] on the morrow. For what [is] your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
 
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Really have you not seen the 4 generations of Adam In genesis administered by 4 separate entities? GOD, Lord God, Lord, Adam. Another thing....why do you think those specific words are italicized in those scriptures you posted?
 
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Who cares what is written in different languages if it is understood correctly ....and what is that mathematical garbage you posted?