lets all sin!!!!!!

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AnandaHya said:
My issue is with the doctrine that salvation is lost or gained by people's actions and not BY GRACE through FAITH which is a gift of God.
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yes and my point goes back to after we receive grace we still have much to do for our Father
Ephesians 2:10 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
James2:26 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

James 1:25 25But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.

we may be saved by grace through faith, but how well will that gace be if it is held in vain with dead faith?
a does of the work, he who DOES the will of my Father, he who hears there sayings of mine and DOES them

1 Thessalonians 1:33 remembering without ceasing your work of faith, labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father,

<H3>1 Corinthians 15:58

58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

do you really feel we have no work to tend to? what is the fate of the unprofitable servant? weeping and gnashing of teeth if i remember correctly. there is many more on work we are to be doing all over our good book. what good is a servant that does not serve? i would rather serve my master than watch american idol.


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I'll take that as a yes, you are mad.

I'm neither being condescending to you or malicious, but if that is how you perceive me then I will stop talking to you because there are other kinder people online.

If you knew me at all you would understand about the cookies, but you don't seem to care enough to figure it out.

I asked because the thought occurred that you might be angry not because I set out to make you that way.

 
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AnandaHya said:
Yes I do agree that people should fight against temptation and sin and they should help others overcome and resist.

I just don't think bashing them over the head with how horrible they are is the answer. We are to meditate on what is GOOD and what God WANTS us to DO. God convicts and corrects and brings people to godly sorrow. sometimes He uses people to do it. However BLANKET statements over the internet... hmmm ...
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lets see how are we to help other fight against and overcome things well we could help by bringing awareness to what types of things our book tells us not to have any part of, it instead of not saying anything at all like we have for how long?

bashing people over the head? who did i say is horrible? it is clear you are defensive when it come to talking about trying to follow our Lord.

Ephesians 5:11 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

1 John 3:10 10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.
1 John 2:29 29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.

why does it bother you to hear people say we should try to follow our Lords directions instead of seeking worldly things like american idol?why are you so offended to hear people talk about working to tend to our Fathers field and fellow brothers and sisters needs?
 
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 isn't Good News unless you keep verse 11. The FINISHED works of.Christ will set you free.. If you point out sin without mentioning the FINISHED WORKS then are you really preaching the gospel?
 
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AnandaHya said:
I'll take that as a yes, you are mad.
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am i mad no, i have a smile on most of the time on here. the reason i stated where that comes from is because. if it is your goal to make one mad or ask such an odd question as if you desire to hear somthing as if you would enjoy knowing you made one mad. such things are not a teaching of our Lord
 
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no I ask odd questions because I'm odd.

lol if I was being malicious you would be able to tell.

defensive?

you obviously don't know me very well or read anything I write clearly. anyways you can talk to hislastwalk..

do you know anything about the charismatic movement?
 
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hislastwalk said:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 isn't Good News unless you keep verse 11. The FINISHED works of.Christ will set you free.. If you point out sin without mentioning the FINISHED WORKS then are you really preaching the gospel?
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1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

and such were(past) some of you
not such are(present) some of you.

are you trying to say now that we are sanctified continuing in those things will not make problems for us later?
if we willingly did such things after being sanctified would that be practicing lawlessness or righteousness? walking in light or darkness?
now yes if we slip up we have the hope that our Lord will forgive us.
 
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1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

and such were(past) some of you
not such are(present) some of you.

are you trying to say now that we are sanctified continuing in those things will not make problems for us later?
if we willingly did such things after being sanctified would that be practicing lawlessness or righteousness? walking in light or darkness?
now yes if we slip up we have the hope that our Lord will forgive us.
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See, I'm not gonna reply because you twisted my point.
 
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The FINISHED works of Christ will set you free.. Not someone pointing out all your sin.
 
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talking about what is asked of us and what offends Him with fellow servants of our Lord is pointing our everyones sin? trying to understand what offends our Lord so i might find all that i practice on a day to day basis is wrong???
 
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how would any talk about the bible then? if i say theft is a sin am i targeting a thief or bringing up what is in the book
 
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the biggest way the spirit of antichrist has worked into the church is by leaving the gospel out. The spirit of anti-christ points out sin but never mentions Jesus.
 
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hislastwalk said:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 isn't Good News unless you keep verse 11. The FINISHED works of.Christ will set you free.. If you point out sin without mentioning the FINISHED WORKS then are you really preaching the gospel?
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You say 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is misused i assume because i said they warned what does not inherit the kingdom of God.

it is not misused if the subject is us talking about judging. as I said would we say he is judging the brothers of Corinth (or anyone else outside corinth) by saying such and such type things will not inherit the kingdom of God?

I would not think he is judging but discerning what type of things do not have an inheritance.

Anyone who follows out Lord will not be practicing such things, so its it still proper to use. Anyone can claim to follow our Lord and practice such things, it does not mean they are covered.
 
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hislastwalk

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You say 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is misused i assume because i said they warned what does not inherit the kingdom of God.

it is not misused if the subject is us talking about judging. as I said would we say he is judging the brothers of Corinth (or anyone else outside corinth) by saying such and such type things will not inherit the kingdom of God?

I would not think he is judging but discerning what type of things do not have an inheritance.

Anyone who follows out Lord will not be practicing such things, so its it still proper to use. Anyone can claim to follow our Lord and practice such things, it does not mean they are covered.
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Yet again. You missed the point. Quoting 9-10 without mentioning 11 would not set anyone free. :)
 
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hislastwalk said:
the biggest way the spirit of antichrist has worked into the church is by leaving the gospel out. The spirit of anti-christ points out sin but never mentions Jesus.
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The anti Christ does not tell people to seek our Lord and strive to be pleasing to Him. it tells them your sins are covered because you believe, now that that’s done nothing else is expected of us. do not bother to understand what offends Him because it does not matter we are saved anyway says the anti christ.........
 
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See, now you're thinking I'm saying it's OK to sin. You can't escape sin if you don't live under grace.

If I was justifying sin, I'D still be gay.

The anti-christ does 2 things actually.
1: Points out sin & never mentions Jesus. (You can't overcome sin without being justified in Christ.)
2: Tells people they can't change, or tells them they can change themselves. Which only lasts for a season.

Either you preach the Gospel or you don't.
 
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hislastwalk said:
Yet again. You missed the point. Quoting 9-10 without mentioning 11 would not set anyone free. :)
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The subject was judging not the scripture in 1Corinthians.

1Corinthians is used as an example,

as if we were to talk about Paul calling the brothers in Corinth carnal

or saying such things will not inherit the kingdom


would we consider those comments judging or discerning, rebuking?

The substance of the scripture is not the topic the comment he made is
 
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VII said:
The anti Christ does not tell people to seek our Lord and strive to be pleasing to Him. it tells them your sins are covered because you believe, now that that’s done nothing else is expected of us. do not bother to understand what offends Him because it does not matter we are saved anyway says the anti christ.........
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Do you think anyone here is saying this??? You keep repeating it as if some on this board are teaching that you can sin all you want because Chirst has paid for all your sins. I don't see anyone here advocating that. We have all pretty much said then when God saves us we will live as close to Him as we can, and put to death any besetting sin.
I just don't get what you're trying to convince us of. Maybe if you made one post detailing what you are trying to say, and what consequnces/results/ effects it will have for us.
I am not mocking you, I really want to know why you continually bring this up when we all agree that to go on sinning after being saved is not Biblical.
God bless.

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VII said:
The subject was judging not the scripture in 1Corinthians.

1Corinthians is used as an example,

as if we were to talk about Paul calling the brothers in Corinth carnal

or saying such things will not inherit the kingdom


would we consider those comments judging or discerning, rebuking?

The substance of the scripture is not the topic the comment he made is
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I'm through. If you're gonna keep a veil & keep missing the point, why should I try?

The point is: Paul pointed out sin, but He gave the solution in verse 11. That you can ONLY truly overcome sin by JESUS making you righteous.
 
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hislastwalk said:
See, now you're thinking I'm saying it's OK to sin. You can't escape sin if you don't live under grace.

If I was justifying sin, I'D still be gay.

The anti-christ does 2 things actually.
1: Points out sin & never mentions Jesus. (You can't overcome sin without being justified in Christ.)
2: Tells people they can't change, or tells them they can change themselves. Which only lasts for a season.

Either you preach the Gospel or you don't.
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without Jesus none of it works, you cannot get into heaven if you do not turn to Him, repent, do the will of our Father.

and yes people can change, as you said you were gay. is that not change? I used to watch porn.

if we can't change or do not need to change Paul would not bother bringing up the carnal nature of the brothers in Corinth.

Its talking about practicing righteousness and lawlessness that get people to ask themselves and analyze themselves. I don’t care if someone wants to say they are a believer and racist, its not my job to say your racist!!!! but go over the bible and talk with others I must. I don’t go telling nonbelievers your going to hell because you do such and such. But its clear that any false followers are going to hell, our Lord made it clear.
 
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