Let's Take a Deeper Look at this Hyper Stuff

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ladylynn

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As I have said a few times, all I can make of these constant accusations by some people is that they truly must desire to do all those things, themselves, and are somehow jealous of people they imagine are getting away with what they crave to do.


Hi Willie., it's tooooo left open for a mistake for me to try and figure some people out. Who can know for sure why people do the things they do? I was thinking today about how different people's minds work. And am just letting my fingers do the walking as I'm speedily go over the keys putting down some thoughts to share to anyone who wants to read them. I thought of Helen Keller for instance. Her motivation for talking and learning and communicating was much different than many other people will ever go through.

Her looks were different than most people's because of her disabilities. Her whole life could not be compared to many of the 'average' people out there. So to see her and hear her speak if you didn't know her story, people who only see by the instant/outward appearances would not really see this awesome lady for who she was and most would have just passed her by. But I think that those people who are judgmental would and could find fault with Helen even if they did know her. Once they got to know her, they would see her personality and that she was not 'perfect' and human nature being what it is., they would focus on that negative and dismiss all the positive she had done.

There were millions of things going on in the world at the time Helen K. was managing her life as she learned to live in the world with her disabilities. Although many world events were going on like wars and killings, marriages, births, ocean vacations were happening she was not living in that reality at the time she was learning. She was just glad and so very thankful to be able to have the reality of her life in the ability communicate with people after being totally isolated without sight, sound or ability to speak. And God was right there with her.

It boggles my mind even though I'm not a genius like she was or other people are., but it just causes me to stop and think what do Christians who judge other Christians and other people THINK?? How do they justify judging people? How do they think they know enough to do so? And isn't Jesus big enough and strong enough to take care of the sinful issues that are causing life on earth to be wacky? Isn't God able to take care of the so called heretics that come on the scene so that Christians do not have to be at each others throats "defending the faith" yeeessshhhh. Even on CC?

"Defending the faith" That has got to be something different for many different people. I think depending on how huge a person's ego is., that would explain how far and deep and high we would jump to show everyone we're right other people are wrong in comparison. And is it almost always about comparisons? and don't we alllll have these tendencies in our flesh? And what are we comparing others too? Do we judge others the same way we feel we are judged. And is it those who don't feel judged that find it easier not to judge?

Most of us will never meet that evangelist 'Todd' with the dreadlock hairdo like you have Willie. Nor will we ever know his deep hidden man of the heart. But don't we have to allow God to be the judge? And shouldn't we all just bless the man instead of guessing about him and instructing others to "beware of him since he may be too happy to be of God or to sloppy and not a "snappy dresser" Or he maybe isn't healing the right way or using the right formula., or he isn't in church on Wed. night. or his wife works or doesn't work. or his kids maybe don't obey fast., so then they could say 'a man that can't take care of his own household isn't fit!! Or the cloths he wears and my favorite ...his hairdo.
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How do any of us know about these people who are out there ministering to the world?? Why do they always get judged by the amount of money they have? Maybe they asked and God gave. And how far do we think satan would go to discredit ANYONE who dares to go out in the name of Christ to be fishers of men using the airways and modern day dodads that allow us to communicate anytime day or night. There are millions and millions of things we COULD judge but SHOULD we???? Shouldn't there be some MAJOR thinking before judging. And under these kinds of conditions., I don't feel much like judging someone. It's way to complicated a task. We are not equipped for the job.

Just some thoughts about CC today i decided to post. Oh., and also., doesn't God open doors and close doors? Isn't God the One who brings opportunities for us? Isn't life to short for us to spend judging each other for our faults? Even the people I've disliked here., there were things others told me that were very admirable about them in spite of their personality flaws.
 

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Amen..the only way to receive God's grace is through Jesus Christ!


What you have in blue above is not true - no one says it's ok to continue living a life of sin. This is where the "straw-man" exists. It's a figment of someone's imagination.

Grace believer's say the complete opposite of what you said in blue above. We all say that grace teaches how to live godly in this present world and I myself have quoted Titus 2:11-12 at least over 50x times and I have seen many others do the same thing.

There are consequences in this life for living after the flesh.

Murder someone in Texas and they will "kill you back". They have an expressway for the execution of murderers if you are caught by 2 witnesses.

Steal from 7/11 and you will go to jail.

Commit adultery on your spouse and you will see the destruction and hurt it brings to a family.

Let's learn to walk according to the Spirit so that we don't fulfill the lusts of the flesh to do "it's" desires.
I never said "grace believers" are saying this. Its an observation i have seen in what some people believe.
 
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What you have in blue above is not true - no one says it's ok to continue living a life of sin. This is where the "straw-man" exists. It's a figment of someone's imagination.
My friend this is simply not true.

Let us go through this step by step.
A believer is saved through faith, their sins are forgiven, past, present and in HG future.

It is not possible to not sin, because sin is constant failure in the hyper-legalist view.

Time and again people say they sin hourly, daily, weekly. They say no-one can live without
sinning. This is living a life of sin, and defining it is impossible in the faith to not live like this.

Now one could argue, through repentance and confession, we resolve the sin as it comes to mind
and conviction, so though it is often recurrent it is dealt with and not "ok".

But if this is what is meant, it again is an example of double speak.

Jesus and the apostles do not expect us to sin. In fact victory is not falling into continual sin, but
becoming slaves of righteousness.

But I suspect contributors just want to stir because unless you are HG you are doomed and evil so must
be exposed.... lol, when ofcourse only the devil is into condemning believers...
 
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Peterjens:

These "conclusions" are from your own construct in your mind. I have said it from the beginning I first met you on CC.

You take something someone says - you "re-construct" what you think they are saying and then make a whole new meaning out of it. Then this thought seizes your mind until "it becomes real" to you in your own thinking. Then you attack this "newly re-formulated" thought.

It's the very same thing as has been seen in this thread with the "constructs" you formulate in your mind. This is why all these people are challenging you constantly as you continue to mis-represent what is being said.

Some of us have told you the same thing over 50x times and yet you continue to say we are saying something else.

Some things you just can't understand like our sins are forgiven in Christ because of His blood but that's ok to agree to disagree too but you go and make it a completely different thing and accuse people that believe in forgiveness of sins as if they want to sin all the time which is complete nonsense.

You have called believers in grace every name that is possible from being satanic, to liars, to lovers of sin, demonic, evil workers, heretics..etc.

Unfortunately, this is the reason I and others now are trying to limit our interaction with you to as little as possible until we see "fruits of repentance".
 

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My friend this is simply not true.

Let us go through this step by step.
A believer is saved through faith, their sins are forgiven, past, present and in HG future.

It is not possible to not sin, because sin is constant failure in the hyper-legalist view.

Time and again people say they sin hourly, daily, weekly. They say no-one can live without
sinning. This is living a life of sin, and defining it is impossible in the faith to not live like this.

Now one could argue, through repentance and confession, we resolve the sin as it comes to mind
and conviction, so though it is often recurrent it is dealt with and not "ok".

But if this is what is meant, it again is an example of double speak.

Jesus and the apostles do not expect us to sin. In fact victory is not falling into continual sin, but
becoming slaves of righteousness.

But I suspect contributors just want to stir because unless you are HG you are doomed and evil so must
be exposed.... lol, when ofcourse only the devil is into condemning believers...
Yet it is your very lack of belief in what God says about you that condemns you. You and the others like you who think constant sin,repent repeat is what God wants are really blind to the truth. You practice self righteousness and it is useless. In fact, the Word says you can either believe in that or Christ, not both. Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
 
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Originally Posted by Grace777x70


Well said ladylynn and spot on too!

Give this woman a cigar! ( just kidding' )....:)



HA!!! HA! HA! HEE! HA! HO! HAHA!! :cool:

LOL..are you one of these women? ( This picture was taken outside "the mall" according to your mother...just sayin'..)



 
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These "conclusions" are from your own construct in your mind. I have said it from the beginning I first met you on CC.
Grace777 - with the best will in the world you yourself look at everything through your lenses.
That is a world of your own creation.

Now ofcourse everything I say must come from my mind, because for me to be speaking from God,
would make what you say a lie.

This is always the dilemma between different faiths. I am happy to live with that, but you appear
to not be so.

And for someone who claims it is all Gods work alone, you are very much into telling everyone else
that they are wrong and need to repent.

If it is Gods work alone, how can I be born again filled with the Holy Spirit, listening to Christ and not
in agreement with you.

It no longer bothers me all your positions or changes of emphasis or denials. You have no intention of
being plain or obvious.

But this is the mark of Christ. We are sinners who need to walk righteously in love. So I encourage you
my dear friend to walk righteously in love. I am told continually that this is your hearts desire, so I embrace
you and say Amen, let us walk on in Praise of our Glorious God, who sent His Son to show us the way of
the Kingdom and empower us to walk in it.

Hallelujah. No matter what people say around me, I will rejoice in the blessing He provides.
 
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Yet it is your very lack of belief in what God says about you that condemns you. You and the others like you who think constant sin,repent repeat is what God wants are really blind to the truth. You practice self righteousness and it is useless. In fact, the Word says you can either believe in that or Christ, not both. Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
But I do not believe in this endless sinning cycle.
I believe in transformed lives, really walking righteously and in purity.

So your put down fails to reach the mark. But praise the Lord for He is good and His love
is victorious if it free in our souls.
 
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AuntieAnt

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I have got to observe, the response time and again is not a serious admission there is an issue here with morality and what righteousness and purity is in the body of Christ, but just a disparaging dismissal of observation and opinion.

It truly saddens me when sincere people are not convicted about plain and simple sin and the failure
to confront it among believers.

This benefits only the enemy and shows how far away from the Kingdom these teachers are.
When I was a kid I literally wanted to the world to live in peace and love.

When you realise how sin perverts this truth, and pollutes all we touch, you will begin to see
there is no place for compromise with sin, in any form.

But if in reality you are not pure
, you are not cleansed, you do not see God or know His
righteousness, then as a wolf you will say do not worry, you are forgiven it does not matter.

So those who agree with this compromise already have declared their allegiance.
Ananias and Saphira died because in the company of God and His people their compromise
was just one small lie away.
So is there any sin in yourself that you need to be convicted of? Or are you pure? And if indeed pure, how can you be convicted of sin?
 
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:haha: as it is written
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1 Pedro: 2. 15. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16. As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
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... . as it is written
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Mga Taga-Efeso: 2. 8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

. ... so as it is written
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Jeremias: 10. 23. O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

. ... and also
:read: (as it is written)
Josue: 1. 8. This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

thats why
as it is written
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Pahayag: 20. 12. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

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godbless us all always
 
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... . as it is written
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Awit: 1. 1. Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

4. The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5. Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6. For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

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godbless us all always
 
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AuntieAnt

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But I do not believe in this endless sinning cycle.
I believe in transformed lives, really walking righteously and in purity.

So your put down fails to reach the mark. But praise the Lord for He is good and His love
is victorious if it free in our souls.
I certainly don't want to put you down, brother PeterJens. I honestly want to understand if you believe you are pure in Christ, that you have been transformed by Christ, and how you know you yourself are "really walking righteously and in purity".

And if you are pure, if you indeed are free from sin, do you believe you could ever be convicted of sin? If you can be convicted, how are you indeed pure and free of sin?
 
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. ... as it is written
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2 Tesalonica: 1. 11. Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
12. That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

~;> by the way
we ask some people before on
what is their opinion about this written words
→ according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

just askin
 
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:alien: brethren fellows brothers and sisters
TRUST THE VERY WRITTEN WORD OF GOD
THERE IS NO SUCH THING
AS HYPER GRACE AND OSAS
THERE BEEN MADE IN ORDER TO CONFUSE EVERYONE
BECAUSE WE MUST HAVE OUR FAITH BY
WORKING UNTO OUR SALVATION
WITH PRAYING AND MERCY
according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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:haha: indeed :alien: brethren of ours
indeed
WE MUST HAVE OUR FAITH BY
WORKING UNTO OUR SALVATION
WITH PRAYING AND MERCY
according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
AND
NOT BY THE GRACE ACCORDING TO MAN MAN MADE DOCTRINES

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godbless us all always
 
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AuntieAnt

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You who believe Christians can lose their salvation, I have a question that nobody seems to be answering.

If you believe that we have to keep working on maintaining purity, is there any point in your Christian walk at which you yourself can proclaim that you are a true saint of God and are pure in heart? Or are you at any time susceptible to losing your salvation because of disobedience?
 
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:alien: as it is written
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Juan: 7. 15. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
17. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

~;> as the apostle of the gentiles also said before
so as it is written
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1 Corinto: 14. 36. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
:haha: as it is written
:read:
1 Pedro: 2. 15. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16. As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
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:alien: as it is written
:read:
Juan: 7. 15. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
17. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

~;> as the apostle of the gentiles also said before
so as it is written
:read:
1 Corinto: 14. 36. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
:haha: as it is written
:read:
1 Pedro: 2. 15. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16. As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

:ty:

godbless us all always

:haha: hey :alien: what happened to the message
the message must be post like this
:alien: as it is written
:read:
Juan: 7. 15. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
17. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

~;> as the apostle of the gentiles also said before
so as it is written
:read:
1 Corinto: 14. 36. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

:haha: as it is written
:read:
1 Pedro: 2. 15. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16. As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
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:haha: hey :alien: what happened to the message
the message must be post like this
:alien: as it is written
:read:
Juan: 7. 15. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
17. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

~;> as the apostle of the gentiles also said before
so as it is written
:read:
1 Corinto: 14. 36. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

:haha: as it is written
:read:
1 Pedro: 2. 15. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16. As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

:ty:

godbless us all always

:alien: pardon me :haha: brethren of ours
there is somekind of evil things that i sense here
the moment i begin to post the message