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I'm not sure what it is that makes you think people who speak the truth about grace are not "doing". We "do" because we love Him, but not in order to be saved. This is the difference, you teach "do to receive", we teach "do because we have received". One of the things Jesus said to "do" was.......
Matthew 5:48 (KJV)
[SUP]48 [/SUP]Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
I know how I am doing with this instruction, how are you coming along with it? This is a command that was given for you to "do" correct? Are you doing it? Are you "perfect" as He is? No, I didn't think so. Why would Jesus instruct us to "do" perfection knowing that we couldn't possibly be perfect? I wonder if He was showing them (and us) just how far we as mortals are from being perfect with His "Sermon On The Mount". Have you ever read it all? Have you kept all it's instruction every minute of every day of your life?
I wonder if since Jesus knew they (nor we) could be perfect, He was showing them (and us) the only way to be perfect was by depending on Him and His righteousness?
Matthew 6:33 (KJV)
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
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Those verses remind me a little of some verses I read in Romans!
Romans 5:18-19 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
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"Made righteous" is the only way you and I can "be perfect". It is His righteousness by which we are saved when we place our trust in Him ALONE!
If not we will "do" as Israel as trust in our own righteousness........
Romans 10:1-4 (KJV)
10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
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This is as clear as I know how to make it using Gods Words, not mine.
Matthew 5:48 (KJV)
[SUP]48 [/SUP]Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
I know how I am doing with this instruction, how are you coming along with it? This is a command that was given for you to "do" correct? Are you doing it? Are you "perfect" as He is? No, I didn't think so. Why would Jesus instruct us to "do" perfection knowing that we couldn't possibly be perfect? I wonder if He was showing them (and us) just how far we as mortals are from being perfect with His "Sermon On The Mount". Have you ever read it all? Have you kept all it's instruction every minute of every day of your life?
I wonder if since Jesus knew they (nor we) could be perfect, He was showing them (and us) the only way to be perfect was by depending on Him and His righteousness?
Matthew 6:33 (KJV)
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
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Those verses remind me a little of some verses I read in Romans!
Romans 5:18-19 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
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"Made righteous" is the only way you and I can "be perfect". It is His righteousness by which we are saved when we place our trust in Him ALONE!
If not we will "do" as Israel as trust in our own righteousness........
Romans 10:1-4 (KJV)
10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
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This is as clear as I know how to make it using Gods Words, not mine.