Lust can be great

[Kaycie]

Do not be fooled by translations, lust is a sinful desire with everything right and good taken out of it. Jesus did not lust. Lust is to desire something that is not of God in any way.

 

[atwhatcost]

Well the use of lust is just a little provocative in todays conversations. Eros is an earthly love as in carnal love and the most common love we experience being subject to the passions of the flesh.

I cannot hardly tolerate the unbundling of the coffee, pie and ice cream. Package deal you go all in or stay on the porch. Most any kind of fruit pie is well suited to ice cream and coffee. Mince meat is a seasonal treat along with pumpkin pies and pecan pie is acceptable when done right.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I'm not directly knowledgeable on the subject, but let's take it to the bedroom, (not literally.) From what I understand "casual sex" really is something people do for themselves, not the other person. That's what everyone is calling "lust," and it is. But my desire for my hubby is consuming and often uncontrollable. I can't imagine that's not lust. But it's all about wanting him, not me. Isn't that the difference?

On the other subject, how hot is that porch? I'll go for a porch if it's fruit pie. lol

 

[atwhatcost]

To a woman who is not your wife.

I can honestly say I've never lusted after any women. Ain't I special? lol

 

[atwhatcost]

John said humanity is tempted in three areas...the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life....Christ was TEMPTED in ALL points as WE ARE tempted......yet without sin.....LUST is not the sin, the sin is when LUST conceives....what is born of lust when it conceives is the sin....!

turn this stone to bread<---lust of the flesh
If you are who you say you are<---pride of life
See all of the kingdoms<---lust of the eyes

Wow! Cool!

 

[atwhatcost]

The struggle is real. We all have things that are difficult for us. Alcohol is mine. I used to smoke but Christ freed me from them. I used to drink - a lot, but Christ freed me from that too.
He can free you from yours too, when you decide to put that burden on Him and stop trying to carry it all yourself. That's the hardest part, learning to give all your problems to Him.
Heard a preacher, years ago, talking about people going to the altar. This is true, plain and simple.
They'll go to the altar and lay their burdens on that thing, open their heart and soul up to God, beg for assistance, then get up from the altar, pick those problems back up, and carry them back to their pew with them.

Sometimes when we do that we don't even realize it.

At this point, I don't know which I fear more -- walking to the altar and he does it, or never walking. Both feel like tooth canal surgery on all teeth the same day without any Novocaine.

Stupid really. He helped me through drugs, but he can't help me through this? I know in my head he can, but it's slavery, so it's hard to get that into my heart.

 

[Apostol2013]

actually lust is simply desire and its not always untoward, although it certainly can be, heres a good example in scripture of the word lust used in context of desire and that not sexually;Deu 12:21
If the place which the LORD thy God hath chosen to put his name there be too far from thee, then thou shalt kill of thy herd and of thy flock, which the LORD hath given thee as I have commanded thee, and thou shalt eat in thy gates whatsoever thy soul lusteth after.
it is easy to misunderstand this because when most hear the word lust it is usually equated with sexual desire, however the word itself does not always mean this, as with other words their meaning changes over time, words such as gay, it actually meant happy at one time, or wicked, which in some circles today means cool or amazing, it is easy to get caught up in semantics but we all should try to see things more objectively.

cov·et
ˈkəvət/Submit
verb
yearn to possess or have (something).
"the president-elect covets time for exercise and fishing"
synonyms: desire, yearn for, crave, have one's heart set on, want, wish for, long for, hanker after/for, hunger after/for, thirst for
"even with all they have, they covet the wealth of others"

 

[Apostol2013]

Coveting is a sin

 

[atwhatcost]

I'm curious, this guy says alcohol is difficult for him (a struggle) -- and also says Christ freed him from it (no longer struggles).

Can someone attempt to explain??

Ever watch the Harry Potter movies? There's this dragon at the bottom of the vaults in a bank. He protects the vaults, but he is a dragon, so his instinct is to blast everyone with flame. The goblins (bankers) trained him to be too scared to hit them with flame by causing him great pain while making a lot of noise with bells. The dragon equates bells with pain so cowers instead of doing what his instinct tells him to do. He's freed from his chains. He has to be convinced he is free though, because he's so used to the pain and the chains.

Yeah, I get that. It is a struggle even when God freed me.

 

[atwhatcost]

You appear to be a wordly person. Jesus never lusted, and don't post things like that Neither did Paul, Phil is right, you bad mouth everyone here even me, and I put you on ignore, but your wordly attitude should be branded here. Your telling people it's ok to go out and lust it's good, to rape someone then murder them, the dicktionary is not the word of God. If you read the bible you wouldn't talk trash to people and put other's here down. The bible specifically says, Lust is of the devil, the lust of the flesh, world and the lust of the eye, just because the dicktionary says passionate, it dosn't mean love, people could be passioanate to murder someone. You posted it also says covet, the word of God, says do not covet, I don't know why your not banned, your a mouthy person with a unclean spirit. To talk about llust as if it is good. Use another word, Lust is evil, it is the opposite from God's love, no matter how your slicing and dicing it you sound like satan twisting things in the garden to eve, and people come on here reading your garbage and your entertainment, is something you should be doing somewhere else. Threads are humurous, but your twisting the word of God, I will report your posts, and don't think I'm going to read your stuff because it's garbage.

Hey now? Don't go blaming Phil for that. I'm the one saying that. Phil may not understand a word I'm saying, and, it really sounds like he wants to disagree before he understand what I'm saying, but I AM the one saying Paul, Jesus, and Solomon lusted. If you're going off blaming someone, blame the right person.

And I'm wordly? Well, yeah. Usually, but I thought I was less-wordly in my first post than I usually am.

It's garbage? Really? So omniscient-you made this determination without even checking out the links? I think I proved my point. (I was wordlier to do so, but I did.) So far, the only thing I've heard to disprove it is Nan-Nynh, which really doesn't prove anything but people don't like the idea. I get that. You're merely proving this feeling for a word is past America's borders. Apparently the modern word "lust" is instantaneously considered a "bad word" by the English-speaking Christianese world. (And to some extent the church too.) The modern version of that word is bad -- at times. The Greek word gave room for both ways.

You're going to report me? Well, cool then. Just don't report Phil, because he didn't say it. As for my culpability? Hey, it's a very grownup topic in many minds and yet I believe I didn't resort to vulgarity to express what I believe. I'm wordly like that.

(Wordly. Ought to be a word. I like it. lol)

 

[crossnote]

Funny how we are admonished by those who say 'don't believe those dictionary definitions' and then they promptly turn around and give us their definition.

 

[atwhatcost]

It is sacreligious to even say Jesus the Christ the son of God lusted. That's a lie, No where in the bible did it or does it say that, for the RECORD HERE so newbies and new comers will know the truth, Jesus never lusted, maybe Paul before he repented, but Lust is evil, it could turn to murder. David lusted after Bathseba, a married women, and he killed her husband, and then their child died, and death was always in his house, other family members died of their lusts further. Murder came out of lust, this is Christain Chat by the way. NOt loose morals, and using Our Lord and Savior as a piece of trash, like you made him look. He is The Son of God.

Prove it. Use the Bible. Show me where "sacrilegious" is even in there. You seem to be an expert on the word. Go for it.

BTW, you're right. Murder is out of lust. Still doesn't mean the word is always evil. Marriage comes from lust too.

 

[atwhatcost]

Do not be fooled by translations, lust is a sinful desire with everything right and good taken out of it. Jesus did not lust. Lust is to desire something that is not of God in any way.

You're the one being fooled by translations and a modern word. Not only that, you completely made up your own definition for it. I took it back to the original language and took it back to its original meaning.

Now what? Nanny nanny nu nu really doesn't work for me as an argument.

 

[atwhatcost]

Coveting is a sin

Wrongo. Look again. Coveting what isn't yours is sin. It's okay if she's your wife. Not okay if she's the neighbor's wife. It's okay if it's your goods. Not okay if it's the neighbor's goods. It's okay if it's your animal (oxen, but who has oxen anymore, so let's make it pets or a mode of transportation.) Not okay to covet your neighbor's animals. God didn't get his laws wrong. He was very precise for a reason.

 

[Mary2]

Most think of the flesh when using the word Lust. God does not *think* anything is sin. No one knows the mind of God.
Anything taken out of perspective is an error. The word sin is used as a tool to justify one against another. This is called division. Jesus did not come to divide but to unite. It is time for all people, not just Christians, to awaken to compassion and mercy for his brothers and sisters

 

[Magenta]

Most think of the flesh when using the word Lust. God does not *think* anything is sin. No one knows the mind of God.
Anything taken out of perspective is an error. The word sin is used as a tool to justify one against another. This is called division. Jesus did not come to divide but to unite. It is time for all people, not just Christians, to awaken to compassion and mercy for his brothers and sisters

Jesus said, "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

 

[Magenta]

God does not *think* anything is sin. No one knows the mind of God.

You contradict yourself.

 

[Mary2]

I did not come to this site to argue but to state my point of view. I stated my thoughts. Not the thoughts of God. No one knows the mind of God. We are not gods.
If I have offended anyone , then I am truly sorry. And I will leave.

 

[crossnote]

Most think of the flesh when using the word Lust. God does not *think* anything is sin. No one knows the mind of God.
Anything taken out of perspective is an error. The word sin is used as a tool to justify one against another. This is called division. Jesus did not come to divide but to unite. It is time for all people, not just Christians, to awaken to compassion and mercy for his brothers and sisters

Mary2, while checking your profile Firefox crashed...is there something I should know? ROFL.

 

[Magenta]

I did not come to this site to argue but to state my point of view. I stated my thoughts. Not the thoughts of God. No one knows the mind of God. We are not gods.
If I have offended anyone , then I am truly sorry. And I will leave.

Hello Mary, welcome to CC! Are you sure you really want to leave so quickly? I simply pointed out errors in your thinking. It was not an invitation to argue, but an opportunity for you to examine more closely what you are putting forth. You are free to challenge what I have said. Do you think I was wrong to say you contradict yourself when you stated two completely opposing views side by side? Do you think I am in error to quote Scripture on a Christian site? Do you not accept what Jesus said as the thoughts of God? Has God not spoken through the writers of Scripture?

 

[WoundedWarrior]

I was trying to show that I understood her struggle, having gone thru it myself. I should have used the past tense "was" instead of the present tense "is".

It's a miracle -- Phil actually responded to something I said.

Crazy though -- he does not respond when I address him, but responds when I do not address him...


I'm not trying to hold a grudge, Phil112, but you said some pretty nasty things before -- are you ever going to clarify, or will you continue to ignore?